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Ecklund: That would be difficult -county would not appreciate getting all those calls. <br />Nilsen: I think Mr. Shannon made a good presentation. Per capita costs are very <br />misleading. Comparative costs -the two person family to family with six -in paying their <br />cost for school-~11 this works on assessed valuation. Let's all bear that in mind. The <br />fire insurance premium goes up - it isn't for 6 or 4 people. Whatever you do, there is <br />one thing you have to do -you have to tighten up the burning ordinance . I am more worried <br />about people around that do outdoor burning than I am for nights. I have not burned to <br />any degree for a matter of 4 - 5 years. I just do not burn outside. I have remonstrated <br />for lighting fires in "not good" containers. Embers fly over onto our house. You have to <br />worry about that, too. <br />Don Pantzar -vol urteer fireman: I used to live in the village. The only thing I have to <br />say is since this has come up -from the time Ijoined -living right behind the station at <br />the time I woke up from the. siren, truck was already going out the door. Roseville #2 <br />station is right behind my house and time and time again I have heard sirens and it is much <br />later that the truck pulls out. As citizens, we have gone to the Roseville council -their <br />siren goes off and there is always three minutes before we hear the truck come out the door. <br />I have gone with two volunteers that live behind me and have a hill to go up and last winter <br />twoof them parked at the bottom of the hill and walked up. Roseville is thinking strongly <br />of one full time man and a lot of us are pushing this. Last summer we had a dryer fire and <br />by the time the fire dept got there it had already gone up the wall of the house. I know the <br />difference between volunteer now that I live in a village with completely volunteer system. <br />They do have radios -monitors in the house and they get on their way before siren goes off. <br />It is the time getting to that station -especially in the winter that counts. <br />Mrs. Philip Raup -1572 Fulham: I would like to compliment the study of the council but I <br />~hink the emphasis has been placed on the wrong thing. I think not depreciating the cost, <br />ut increasing the efficiency of the fire department -and if that means having the radio <br />system or increasing the pay, I would not oppose it. The important thing is getting there <br />quickly and I cannot believe that it can be as efficient or as fast if there weren't someone <br />here all the time. <br />Stanley Schultz: I would like to bring out that the majority of the volunteer Fire Dept, is <br />not desirous of this plan -this is something that is being forced upon them. ~A(1) There are <br />pensions here at stake and they will do anything to preserve the pensions. Five to six <br />men are subject to pensions within the next couple years. (2) They definitely will retire <br />if council goes through with this. Fire Dept, had a meeting with about one-third of the <br />people when Mr. Ecklund called meeting with Board of Operational officers. I am assistant <br />chief as well as full time fireman and I did not attend the meeting - I didn't know there was <br />a meeting called. My understanding is that three alternatives were offered: (1) either go <br />strictly volunteer or (2) contract with St. Paul or (3) possibly contract with Roseville. This <br />I got from conversation that took place in the Fire Dept. after chief brought it out. Many <br />men are opposed to sleeping here -they can't sleep here. The understanding is that if he <br />doesn't sleep here he can't be a volunteer. We are throwing good men from out of the <br />community - we are chasing Mr. Pantzar out because he cannot sleep here. Last Tuesday <br />night two of the men you are depending on for daytime said they would retire if this went <br />through. We have four men during the day and during heavy traffic he does not know how it <br />is going to be possible to get through the traffic. Two of the volunteers told me that if this <br />goes into effect they are going to have two sleepers because they are not sure about how to <br />Aerate the trucks, etc. I don't think the proposal is at all in line. This thought has even <br />scared full time men out. If so, where are we going to get help? If you want my job so <br />bad, you can have it. 'S~'es, I do have to moonlight. I would like to read a couple letters <br />from grateful citizens -he read one from Frank Ackermann who used to live in Maple Knoll <br />Drive in Falcon Heights. As far as emergency operation -the men that operate the <br />rescusitator are the full time men -they operate the equipment and they operate the pumps too. <br />