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2073 <br />Aurfee: It is your intention that we would not end up with <br /> artificial lakes back of the curb and parking strip? <br />Lemberg: That is the intention - yes. <br />Durfee: The alley drains and ends up in our back yard now. <br />Lemberg: I might say that the ideal siautaion would be to have <br /> complete curb and gutter on California, Arona, and all <br /> the way down. This way we will have to have some means <br /> of carrying it from the corner to the corner of Idaho <br /> and make it a modified drainage ditch. <br />$oy Kennedy: Water from Pascal to Arona runs west; from Pascal to Albert <br /> it runs east. <br />Lembergs Yes, there is a very distinct breaking point from Pascal, <br />Mrs.-John Kelsey Would the curbing actually run the water off or are you <br />170 California: just going to tear up the streets again? The corners have <br /> been dug up because the water doesn't run off, Are you <br /> actually going to run the water off - is there any <br /> guarantee? <br />Lemberg: If you take a look at Arona from Larpenteur Avenue to <br /> Crawford., you will see that there is not a problem there <br /> any more. <br />Mrs. Kelsey: Why canTt that be done without curbs? <br />Lembergs A solid way to hold a permanent grade is the solution. <br /> Bituminous will not stand up. Pretty soon cars are passing <br /> over the bituminous, then it is softened and there is no <br /> firm edge to hold up the bituminous and maintain same grade <br /> all the way through. <br />Roy Kennedy: Is the street going to be any wider? <br />Lemberg: The streets are set up with 32 foot widths. There is no <br /> plan to widen the streets. <br />Nilsen: Are there any other questions? Can you say there will be <br /> no difficulties with water once this is completed? There <br /> will be a run off? <br />Lemberg: I cannot guarantee that the water will run off on the side <br />streets where #.gere is no curb and gutter. <br />Nilsen: Then there won't be any gathering of water on these <br />corr_ers where there is a radius? <br />Lemberg: Not if the main streets can be kept open. <br />Nilsen: We would not want to do any work that would be disrupted <br />at some future time. Will it stay there at the same <br />grade? Another thing - storm sewers - we find it difficult <br />because most people seem to feel that if the water can be <br />handled in any other way than storm sewers, do it the other <br />way, Our experience at storm sewer hearings has been very <br />poor. <br />