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~G yti of operation would be a prolonged thing, and that it was his opinion it could be handled faster and cheaper, as well as more uniformly, by a contractor. Finn asked if the curbing was a necessity. Engineer Ljungren advised that curbing would control the flow of water, prevent a lot of street damage, and eliminate a lot of repair work in the spring. Finn said he understood catch basins were not very satisfactory, that they silted up and were not of use very long. Ljungren said he thought he had confused catch basins with dry wells -- that catch basins were satisfactory but that dry wells were not too satisfactory; and that they both served different purposes. Kemmer, 1768 Tatum, asked how far East the pipe would go. Ljungren said it would go back about 90 to 95'. Kemmer asked what happened to the water when it came out there. Ljungren advised that there would be a sod swale. Kemmer asked if Ljungren was aware that the lot was level back there. Ljungren said the actual elevation at the back lot line is afoot lower than the invert of the pipe; Whittloff, 1775 Tatum, asked how pipe would be laid. Ljungren said it would have to be dug dawn some and covered, at about 1779 Tatum; that they would use a flared section and that it would be filled level at the back ends of the two lots. The end of the pipe would be at the back of the garage - about 17' further back than the back of the garage there would be a little s~rale section. Schirrmeister, 1779 Tatum asked about trees. Ljungren said none of the trees came closer than 2' of the pipe or 3' away from the ditch. The closest tree would be about a foot from where they bury the pipe. Schirrmeister asked what kind of pipe they planned to use. Ljungren advised corrugated metal pipe, 18" in diameter. Kemmer asked if it was possible to leave a slight ditch. Ljun- gren said water should be taken care of without it. They have a l~ grade. Kem~~er asked why they didn't put catch basins on Larpenteur. Ljungren said they had no place to drain on Larpenteur. Kemmer asked what would happen if somebody built a dam. Attorney Graham pointed out that we are not increasing the flow - we are just channeling it. The water condition should be improved when Roseville Nursery and Hawkins are changed to ~kna3n West and South. Kemmer asked why it couldn't be done now. Ljungren said that by the time they got to Larpenteur, they would just be burying pipe. When the storm sewer on Larpenteur is laid it will be 6 to 8' deep. Finn asked if they wouldn't have to tear up about 300' of the street again when the storm sewer was put in, and Ljungren ad- vised they planned to go up the boulevard about 900'. Finn asked which side of the street the pipe would be placed on. Ljungren said he thought the East side. Finn said he hated to pay double and asked what was wrong with asking the University 1 1 1