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1688 <br />us to nut the sign back. into valuable.drivewa~r'property and you force us <br />off the highway to the point where our identification sign is not visible <br />soon enough to the on-coming traffic. V:re vrould recommend tha+ we be allowed <br />to nut these signs inside the curb line, as they are everywhere. <br />Dahlgren: Our intent here is that all signs be set back beyond the <br />~.Tard requirements - that is the 30'. This is one of the reasons vae are <br />requesting that the pump island be put back 30' - realizing that this is the <br />obvious place for you to put the sign. If all suns are set hack 30', all <br />of them get better visibility. As you close the canyon of signs tighter and <br />tip~hter you have less and less visibility, The signs must be set back 30' but <br />may protrude 18" on the required yard. Vqe wi71 allow service stations to nut <br />their identification sign within 6' of the right of way. Service stations <br />are the only ones that get this break. The other suns we would prefer to <br />have back ±,he 30'. <br />x~icNulty: You are actually moving us back 10' or Il' with our <br />pedestal. <br />Dahlgren: 1'.'e held several conferences with the sign companies and <br />the Petroleum industry and they feel that by holding all suns back 30', they <br />are actually getting getter visibility, but everyone did feel that. service <br />stations have a peculiar problem in the sense that they are catering to fast <br />moving trade. Elie figured 6' for service station signs would be reasonable. <br />Some communities are using 5' and. some 3'. The Ordinance specifies 61~ square <br />feet. <br />Six or seven o_f the oil comranies are settling for 100 <br />square feet. <br />Dahlgren: All vre are asking for, basically, is that we keep the <br />signs back 30' except for filling stations and whether this exception should <br />be 6', 5' or 3' is open to debate. The 6!~' dimension was agreed upon at a <br />meeting vrit,h the petroleum industry about a voar a.go. 6!~' is the actual square <br />surface area. <br />'acNulty: ~~e reoornmend that the pedestal be just inside the curb. <br />You will have to decide what you can do for us. You specify 16' from grade <br />level for pedestal suns. The standard in t~~e industry is about 1?_'. T know <br />of no-one who has any 16' pedestals. ti,re would be forced to put in a concrete <br />base that would be about !.t' high in order to use the pedestals which vre have. <br />Dahlgren: That's from the grade of the nearest driveway or parking area. <br />Z know that the usual considered clearance for a truck is 14'. This is v~rhat we <br />were thinking of. perhaps it should be 1~.'. <br />°:ZcNulty: The standard in the industry is 12'. Vtihere we have transport <br />traffic, we move the si~*ns so they don't get hit because they -3 re quite expen- <br />sive. I think that must be changed- or no-one can conform vrith it without some <br />special poles. <br />Dahlgren: <br />This may be an error on our part. Thank you <br />for bringing <br />it out. <br />''cNulty: ~.~,"e would recommend that we be allowed an additional sign in <br />the front ~rard. They are vital to our particular business. die do feel also <br />