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FALCON HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES • Apri128, 2004 -7- Consideration of Resolutions 04-10 and 04-11 regarding turn back of Hamline Roselawn and Hoyt Avenues from Ramse~County (continued) Mr. Haider said that Ramsey County, as the most urban County in the State, suffers because of the system used to distribute the money. Urban counties compete poorly for the monies that are available. The formula that is used was determined in 1958 and is as follows: 10%-equalization; 10%-motor vehicle registration; 30%-lane miles; 50%-needs. Mayor Gehrz asked what would happen to Roselawn if Falcon Heights refused to take it back. Mr. Haider said it would stay under County jurisdiction. Every two years it would be studied and ranked in the County's system. When roadways start to deteriorate the County fixes them. Roselawn would get some attention in the not too distant future. The County would certainly do some pavement activity. Mayor Gehrz asked if it would still be to a rural standard rather than urban standard and Mr. Haider said yes. Council member Talbot asked about cost distribution and sharing between Saint Paul and Roseville. Administrator Worthington described the various improvements and the cost sharing that has been negotiated with Saint Paul for Hamline Avenue and Hoyt Avenue, and Roseville for Roselawn Avenue. In response to a question from Council member Lindstrom about the MSA monies, Administrator Worthington said there is a penalty if a City doesn't spend their allocation down. Council member Lamb asked if, in the recent past, Falcon Heights has ever suffered the negative effect and Engineer Maurer said there were some minor penalties. Council member Kuettel asked what the total mileage will be and Administrator Worthington said it will be between 3.5 to 4 miles. Council member Kuettel asked what effect this will have on annual snowplowing costs. Administrator Worthington said the abutting cities will share in the cost of plowing and plowing contracts will be negotiated based upon the cost. Snow plowing ran about $600/mile this last year, which was atypical because of the snow quantities. Council member Lindstrom said that he realizes the roads are County roads but are no longer County thoroughfares. No one takes Roselawn from one end of the county to the other. The principle of local control factors into this for him. The City can set the schedule. When he first moved to Falcon Heights he lived five houses away from Hamline and since the day he got on the City Council he has been asking when Hamline is going to be redone. There is a hill that slopes down near Hoyt and it's completely degraded with potholes. It's patched a bit now but is still very rough. It floods. Administrator Worthington has been knocking at St. Paul's door for a long time saying let's work on this. Let's go. Now, if we turn this back, we can set the schedule as to what we want to do with these roads in our neighborhoods.