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MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 18, 1983 PAGE 6 following highlights: .......(6) It should be noted that arty development NILSEN above single family homes at R-1 density requires that no vehicular access (CONT'D) to adjacent developed areas be allowed. This is consistent with previous actions and recommendations of the professional planners and the Planning Commission. In closing, the Task Force stated: 'We respectfully request that you review and accept these criteria as the basis for future development of the Hawkins-He3~nes property'. The Tatum Woods Task Team in its criteria of April 8, 1982 stated: ........d. Access. 1. No vehicular connection other than emergency vehicles shall be made from this property to or through adjacent developed single family areas unless the site is developed at single family density." As far as the access to Cleveland, Jack Anderson in his report mentioned that 85 percent of the traffic would go to the east and Mr. Nilsen agrees that all traffic is directed to the northeast. With respect to a letter from the University to Mr. James W. Maenner dated March 18, 1983, "regarding the Cleveland access, the University places a lot of restrictions on the completion of the street to Cleveland Avenue. Mr. Nilsen felt it is too costly and with possible future damage claims if the street is constructed, he predicts it would destroy the serenity of the b'alcon Woods neighborhood including the proposed new development. It would become an atractive nuisance, a lover's lane with damage to the park also. Finally, the evidence against the construction of a street west to Cleveland is overwhelming. Al Stefanson agrees with Mr. Nilsen and Mr. Anderson's report. STEFANSON • George Plant wondered what the numbers were for traffic counts on each PLANT/ of the streets going out of the development thru Falcon Woods. Was 22 URBAN on Moore, 20 on Howell and 8 on Prior the figures per hour during the peak period? Mr.. Urban advised that they were peak trips per hour during the rush. A11 50 trips would funnel thru Prior Avenue. He feels that the traffic will not be above what normal residential streets will bear, it will not be a burden on the neighborhood and this is important to realize. Al Stefanson stated that it should be kept in mind that when Falcon Woods STF.F'ANSON was first developed, it was intended by the developer to loop the streets south. He pointed out the recommendations of the Falcon Woods Task Force that if 102 dwellings were built, it would be agreeable to have one entrance from the north and if greater density were proposed, another access would be needed. Since the proposed density is only 50 instead of 102, another access is not needed. Karen Northrop asked if the ponding area were going to be fenced and how NORTHROP/ deep it would be. John Urban answered that it would be a dry pond and it URBAN would only fill up to hold water for three to four hours at the end of a storm. They will be designed to hold the water so that it can go thru a smaller pipe and go out at a slower rate through the University and into the St. Paul system. It is not meant to hold water all the time; it will be a grassy area that will be drained. Jim Bourquin stated that twigs, stones and brush will clog the system and BOURt~UIN the homeowners will probably be responsble for keeping it cleaned, or it . will not drain in three to four hours.