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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING/PUBLIC HEARINGS
MAY 22, 1985
A regular meeting of the Falcon Heights City Council was called to order
at 7:00 P.M. by Mayor Eggert.
Mayor Eggert, Councilmembers Ciernia, Baldwin and Hard. Also present
Were Clerk Administrator Barnes, Attorney Van de North, and Engineer
Schunicht.
Councilmember Chenoweth.
Mayor Eggert moved, seconded by Councilmember Hard, that the Consent
Agenda be approved with the addition of one item, Approval of the
Revised Site Plan for 1666 Coffman. Motion carried unanimously.
PRESENT
ABSENT
61.
CONSENT
AGENDA
APPROVED
1. Falcon Heights Fire Reports ~~1-00885 - X61-01185
2. Falcon Heights Ambulance Reports ~~2-04585 - ~~2-04985
3. Lauderdale Fire Reports 4~3-00785 and 4~3-00885
4. Lauderdale Ambulance Reports ~~4-01685 - 4~4-01985
5. Appointment of Fire Chief and Assistant Chiefs (Renchin, Lindig, Dowdell)
6. Appointment of Ross Berndt, 1561 W. Idaho, Apt. 4~1, to Fire/Rescue Dept.
7. General Disbursements 5/9/85 - 5/22/85. $72,325.90
$11,495.00
8. Payroll 5/1/85 - 5/15/85 $ 7,845.68
9. Request for Payment of City's Contribution to North Suburban Cable
Commission Budget ($9,294.60)
10. Memo from Paul Ciernia dated May 17, 1985, Advising that the Community
Services Citizens Advisory Board Desires Appointment of a Person to
Replace Helen Brown
11. Letter dated May 6, 1985 from Roger G. Aiken, 1589 Hollywood Court,
Regarding Recycling Unlimited
12. Park and Recreation Commission Minutes of May 6, 1985
13. Letter Dated May 13, 1985 from Floyd C. Bedbury, 1433 W. California,
Chairman of the Park and Recreation Commission
14. Minutes of SE Corner Redevelopment Committee
15. North Suburban Cable Commission Financial Statement for 1984
16. Bi-monthly Financial Report
17. City Planner's Statement for April, 1985
18. Report Dated May 2, 1985 from George M. Hansen Company, Evaluating
City's Accounting System
19. Briggs and Morgan Statement for Legal Services Through March 31, 1985
20. Ramsey County Sheriff's Report for April, 1985
21. Licenses:
General Contractors
C. 0. Field Co., Inc. 41285
2940 Harriet Avenue
Minneapolis, MN 55408
R. C. Construction 411284
551 Brunson
St. Paul, MN 55106
Vending Machine Licenses 461283 and 41284
Coca-Cola Bottling Midwest, Inc.
1189 Eagan Industrial Road
Eagan, MN 55121
Sewer Cleaner's License 461286
Ken's Sewer Service Co.
1900 Grand
St. Paul, MN 55105
22. Approval of Revised Site Plan for 1666 Coffman
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Councilmember Baldwin moved, seconded by Councilmember Hard, that MINUTES OF
the Minutes of May 8, 1985, be approved as presented. Upon a vote being 5/8/85
taken, the following voted in favor thereof: Mayor Eggert, Councilmembers APPROVED
Baldwin and Hard, and the following voted against the same: None.
Councilmember Ciernia abstained. Motion carried.
Attorney Van de North presented the most recent draft of the proposed
liquor ordinance and reviewed the document with Council. The review
was interrupted for the 7:15 P.M. Public Hearing.
Mayor Eggert opened the Public Hearing on a Conditional Use Request
from the Falcon Heights United Church of Christ, 1795 Holton, and
presented the Affidavits of Publication and Mailing. Bob Olson,
Chairman of Building and Grounds for the Church, explained the
need for the conditional use to provide additional parking due
to the fact that the Church is expanding programs and entering a
concentrated growth campaign. Mr. Olson then reviewed the site/
landscaping plan, addressed lighting, drainage, and traffic patterns.
Ken Esperson, 1835 Holton, expressed concern over the plan for two
ingress/egress areas on Holton Street and questioned the need for
expanded parking. Mr. Esperson recommended that one entrance be
placed on the Pascal side of the lot. Bob Olson explained that
the drives were placed on Holton as the drive used most at present
is on Holton and the neighbors are accustomed to it.
Louis Cristan, 1830 Holton, was concerned over added traffic on
Holton, and was of the opinion that more parking spaces would not
alleviate on-street parking. Engineer Schunicht felt that the
two entrances seemed proper, however, would have his firm's traffic
engineer review the matter.
Jim Utne, 1806 Pascal, gave a brief history of the Church parking
lot in the 30 years he has lived adjacant to the lot. He expressed
concern that the landscaping and buffering would not be completed
if the lot is expanded, and questioned the need for the additional
parking. Mr. Utne also stated he prefers the lighting as it now
exists, security lights activated by photo cell.
Jan Zoerb, 1825 Pascal, expressed concern that an exit might be
constructed on Pascal and drivers would go through the Church lot
rather than going around the block. Ms. Zoerb had done a survey
Sunday, May 12th, and noted that the present lot was filled and 30
vehicles parked on the street. Ms. Zoerb indicated the landscaping
plan was attractive.
LIQUOR
ORDINANCE
REVIEW
PUBLIC
HEARING ON
CONDITIONAL
USE REQUEST
FROM FALCON
HEIGHTS
UNITED CHURCH
OF CHRIST,
1795 HOLTON
KEN ESPERSON,
1835 HOLTON
LOUIS CRISTAN
1830 HOLTON
JIM UTNE
1806 PASCAL
JAN
ZOERB
1825 PASCAL
Louis Cristan, 1830 Holton, commented on the fact that the Church has not LOUIS CRISTAN
maintained the greenery on the present lot and questioned whether it would 1830 HOLTON
be properly maintained if enlarged. Mr. Olson explained that the .plantings
would be of low maintenance varieties. Mayor Eggert stressed the fact that
the City Code requires plantings and if the plan is approved, completion
of all plantings would be necessary.
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There being no others wishing to be heard, Mayor Eggert closed the public HEARING
hearing at 7:58 P.M. CLOSED
Council discussed at length number of driveways, landscaping, lighting, PLANS TO
snow storage or removal, and storm drainage. Mayor Eggert moved, seconded BE REVIEWED
by Councilmember Hard, that the City Engineer, City Planner, and a Traffic PLANNER AND
Engineer, be authorized to meet with Church representatives for the ENGINEERS
purpose of addressing these questions. Motion carried unanimously. The
matter will again be addressed at the June 12 meeting.
Developer Frank Kubitschek introduced John Briscoe, John Herman and John PROPOSED
Klick, who are cooperating on a proposed project for the remainder of PLANS FOR
the Hawkins property and the Moder property. Mr. Klick reviewed the REMAINDER OF
preliminary plans for seven office condominium buildings, five-one story, HAWKINS
two-two story. Mr. Kubitschek indicated that they would be requesting both PROPERTY &
industrial revenue bond and tax increment financing in order to make MODER
the office condo price competitive with rental office space. Council- PROPERTY
member Ciernia commented on current assessments against the property REFERRED TO
(approximately $50,000) and possible use of TIF funds to defray that PLANNING
cost. Council encouraged the developers to apply for both IDB and COMMISSION
TIF. Councilmember Hard moved, seconded by Councilmember Ciernia, that
the matter be referred to the Planning Commission on June 3rd. Motion
carried unanimously.
At 8:30 P.M. Mayor Eggert opened the Public Hearing on Conditional Use PUBLIC
Request from the Lido Cafe, Inc., 1611 West Larpenteur, and presented HEARING ON
the Affidavits of Publication and Mailing. LIDO CAFE
USE OPENED
John Labalestra explained that in an attempt to find an agreement with AT 8:30 P.M.
the neighborhood and wind up the project, they have again modified their
plans scaling down the project to 34 foot addition, leaving the Croft JOHN
house in tact with parking on the southerly portion of the lot, and LABALESTRA,
a cul-de-sac at the end of St. Mary's St. He then presented the parking LIDO CAFE
analysis for the revised plan. Mr. Labalestra stressed that they need
citizen support, access to the Hermes alley, and agreement with Bucks
Unpainted Furniture for parking. He explained that there should be no
problem with the Bucks arrangement for parking, but no agreement had been
reached with Hermes'. Mr. Labalestra then requested that there be a
commitment from Council allowing the conditional use for parking on
the south 30 feet of the Croft property.
Attorney Van de North reviewed State Statute which allows a City ATTORNEY ',
the privilege of granting conditional uses, that Council is required VAN DE NORTH
to consider Planning Commission recommendations, but are not bound
by the Planning Commission, and that Council must consider surrounding
area which is not only abutting property but a broader area, both
residential and commercial.
Planner John Uban reviewed his memorandum of May 22, 1985 (a copy of PLANNER
which is on file in the Clerk's Office) and explained that the City JOHN UBAN
Comprehensive Plan addressed the upgrating of the business districts
and stressed that screening and design are of importance.
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Ted Meyer, 1710 St. Mary's, stated he had not had time to discuss the TED MEYER,
new plan with his neighbors, but he, personally, felt it a compromise 1710 ST.
worth pursuing, he could live with the cul-de-sac, but would want a MARY'S
permanent/long term solution with a guarantee that there be no additional
parking on other than the 30 foot strip of the Croft property. He
stressed that he is opposed to a conditional use on the entire Croft
property.
Dennis Smith, 1725 St. Mary's, indicated he felt similar to Mr. Meyers, DENNIS SMITH
would like a long term solution, and requested that the traffic flow 1725 ST.
be structured in such a way that it will not have a large impact on MARY'S
Fry Street. He indicated a willingness to work on the matter.
Wayne Wakefield, 1708 Lindig, commented on the Lido operation, and WAYNE WAKE-
indicated he felt there was a need for this type of business. He FIELD, 1708
also questioned the letter in the St. Paul paper indicating that the LINDIG
private alley would cost taxpayers $1,000,000. Mayor Eggert explained
that it is not known where the number came from.
Jim Bycowski, 1745 St. Mary's, felt there were still unanswered questions JIM
such as an agreement with Hermes, vacation/ownership of the St. Mary's, BYKOWSKI,
devaluation of the Croft property, and the possibilit y that the Croft 1745 ST.
property would become run down if the home is sold or rented. Mr. MARY'S
Bycowski stated he was awaiting a more specific plan, and requested
that any solution be a permanent one.
Chuck Laszewski, 1713 St. Mary's, agreed with his neighbors who had spoken,
and stated he was cautiously optimistic.
David Bishop, 1765 St. Mary's, explained that the $1,000,000 figure
published in the newspaper was in error, misprint by the paper. He
indicated he also is cautiously optimistic regarding the new plan, but
felt there are still many contingencies. He also stressed that there
should be a stipulation that the balance of the Croft lot not be used
fior parking, but that the new proposal seemed like a good one.
Randy Gustafson, 1775 St. Mary's, liked the dramatic, positive changes,
wished a permanent solution, expressed concern as to whether or not the
plan would work for the Lido, or if they might in the future wish to
make the outdoor dining area part into part of the building.
CHUCK
LASZEWSKI,
1713 ST.
MARY'S
DAVID BISHOP,
1765 ST.
MARY'S
RANDY
GUSTAFSON,
1775 ST.
MARY'S
Gary Kwong, 1700 Fry Street, asked if a cul-de-sac is made at the end of GARY KWONG,
St. Mary's if the parking lot would be public or private, and if there 1700 FRY
would be am emergency entrance for fire trucks. Mr. Kwong expressed STREET
concern that traffic would increase on Fry Street and was assured by Planner
Uban that it should not increase a great deal. Mayor Eggert explained
that decisions have not been made regarding the cul-de-sac.
Fred Kueppers, Jr., Attorney representing Mr. and Mrs. Norbert Hermes,
expressed the following concerns: 1) would the plan consider closing
of the opening to Larpenteur at the Hermes/Lido property, 2) the parking
pattern on the cul-de-sac makes the alley unuseable for truck access and
egress, and 3) if street is vacated, the alley would empty into private
property. He also indicated that there has been no headway made as far as
an agreement with the Lido is concerned. Planner Uban explained that
the plan does show the access to the Hermes/Lido lot on Larpenteur closed
but it is not especially necessary.
FRED KUEPPER
JR.
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Barbara McCoy, 1746 St. Mary's, commented on landscaping, berming re- BARBARA
quirements, snow removal, and stressed that the neighbors wish the whole McCOY,
house be left as a buffer, and with berming there would be little parking 1746 ST.
space left. Ms. McCoy was informed that if the house remains, there would MARY'S
be no berming. She then commented on the present appearance of the Croft
property, lack of lawn mowing, dandelions, no snow shoveling last winter,
and the fact that the Lido owners moved the lawn only after it was requested.
Walter McCoy, 1746 St. Mary's, stated that at the many neighborhood meetings WALTER
all 17 neighbors agreed that the Croft house should be left as it is but all McCOY,
do not agree on the cul-de-sac. Mr. McCoy expressed his 1746ST.
opposition to any infringement on the neighborhood. MARY'S
Steve Reiter, 1746 Fry Street, commented on the fact that he understood STEVE
the City code to require plans attached to the conditional use request, REITER,
whether or not tax increment financing should be allowed, the parking 1746 FRY ST.
analysis does not provide space for deli parking, he felt the parking
figures did not work, and that in his opinion St. Mary's would become
a "dead end".
Lawrence St. George, 1660 Maple Knoll, stated he was a new resident LAWRENCE
of the area, commented on the fine neighborhood, and expressed concern ST. GEORGE,
for safety with vehicles cutting through the neighborhood from Snelling 1660 MAPLE
Avenue to Fry Street. He felt that St. Mary's should not be closed. KNOLL
Leo Klisch, 1757 Fry, expressed the same concerns as Mr. St. George LEO KLISCH,
regarding traffic and safety and asked if Council plans to vote at this 1757 FRY
meeting. Mayor Eggert explained that there may not be a vote tonight,
that Council has six months from the date of the hearing to make a
decision.
Rod VonDeLinde, 1734 St. Mary's, stated he appreciated the compromise, ROD VON DE
and asked that a permanent solution be found. LINDE, 1734
ST. MARY'S
Mayor Eggert explained that the City Attorney has advised that Council
could move on the modified conditional use at this time, but if the
Citizens Committee is willing to meet with the Labalestras, the Planner
and Mr. Kueppers to discuss the issues, he would be in favor of con-
tinuing the hearing to a later date. This would also allow time for
a meeting of the City Attorney, Labalestras, Mayor Eggert, and Clerk
Administrator Barnes (and a Hermes representative if necessary).
Several members of the Citizens Committee indicated a willingness to
meet and discuss. Planner Uban requested that a survey of the properties
involved be prepared.
Mayor Eggert moved, seconded by Councilmember Hard, that the public HEARING
hearing be continued at a special meeting scheduled for June 19, 1985 CONTINUED TO
at 7:00 P.M. Motion carried unanimously. SPECIAL
MEETING OF
Clerk Administrator Barnes explained that Northern States Power will 6/19/85
prepare plans and specifications for the undergrounding of utilities at
Larpenteur and Snelling Avenues at a cost of approximately $1,000.00. PLANS AND
Mayor Eggert moved, seconded by Councilmember Hard, that the plans SPECS FOR
and specifications be ordered at a cost not to exceed $1,500.00. UNDERGROUND
UTILITIES AT
LARPENTEUR
SNELLING TO
BE ORDERED
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APPRAISALS TO
Mayor Eggert moved, seconded by Councilmember Hard, that the City BE ORDERED
Attorney be authorized to order the necessary appraisals for the ON TATUM/
proposed Tatum and Hamline improvements. Motion carried unanimously. HAMLINE
IMPROVEMENTS
Councilmember Ciernia moved, seconded by Mayor Eggert, that the meeting MEETING
be extended for the period of time necessary to complete the discussion of EXTENDED
the proposed liquor ordinance. Motion carried unanimously.
Council and Attorney Van de North completed the review of the proposed LIQUOR
liquor ordinance which will be redrafted for discussion at the public ORDINANCE
hearing on June 12, 1985 at 6:30 P.M. REVIEW
COMPLETED
Councilmember Ciernia moved, seconded by Mayor Eggert, that the meeting MEETING
be continued another five minutes to allow discussion of the Bullseye EXTENDED
item. 5 MINUTES
Councilmember Baldwin expressed his displeasure with misleading statements MISLEADING
made by Bullseye Attorney, Robert Collins. He especially objected to the STATEMENTS
statement made at the March 27, 1985 meeting indicating that the Bullseye MADE BY
project was delayed until spring of 1985 due to the fact that the City BULLSEYE
lost the deed to the liquor store when he had previously (September 10, ATTORNEY
1984) stated that construction was being delayed in orde~C to realize a REVIEWED
savings in construction costs of $100,000.00. Councilmember Baldwin
stated that he did not know if Mr. Collins was unprepared or misleading
Council, but in any event he felt it as not ethical. Councilmember
Ciernia asked if there was an organization which investigates this
type of behavior to which Attorney Van de North replied in the
affirmative .
Councilmember Hard moved, seconded by Councilmember Baldwin, that the ADJOURNMENT
meeting be adjourned at 10:47 P.M. Motion carried unanimously.
ATTEST
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C. Eggert, M.D., Mayor
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Dewan B. Barnes, Clerk Administrator
Regular City Council Meeting/Public Hearings of May 22, 1985