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MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MARCH 22, 1978
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of
Falcon Heights was called to order by Mayor Warkentien
at 7:30 p. m.
Mayor Warkentien, Councilmembers Black, McGough, Steele PRESENT
and Brown. Also present were Clerk Administrator Barnes,
Engineer Brad Lemberg and Atty. John Kenefick.
None.
Councilman Steele moved, seconded by Councilman Black
to approve the Consent Agenda excluding the applica-
tion for General Corporate License of Howard Merrill,
Inc. deferred to April 12, 1978 meeting. Upon a vote
being taken the following voted "aye": Mayor Warkentien,
Councilmembers Black, McGough, Steele and Brown the
following voted "nay": None. Motion carried.
ABSENT
CONSENT AGENDA
1. Fire & Rescue Reports 23 thru 28
2. Ramsey County Sheriff Report - Feb., 1978
3. General Payroll in the amount of: $4,257.46
4. Liquor Store Payroll in the amount of $1,937.84
5. General Disbursements in the amount of: $94,611.15
6. Liquor Disbursements in the amount of: $18,154.78
7. License s:
CIGARETTE LICENSE
North Starr Speedway #485
131 Big Circle Drive
St. Paul, Mn 55117
State Fairgrounds
Motorcycle Rally/Trade Show
ON SALE NON-INTOXICATING MALT LIQUOR
North Starr Speedway #230
131 Big Circle Drive
St. Paul, Mn 55117
State Fairgrounds
Motorcycle Rally/Trade Show
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Councilman McGough moved, seconded by Councilperson MINUTES OF
Brown to approve the minutes of March 8, 1978 as amended. MARCH 8, 1978
Upon a vote being taken the following voted "aye": Mayor
Warkentien, Councilmembers Black, McGough, Steele and
Brown and the following voted "nay": None. Motion carried.
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MARCH 22, 1978
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Clerk Administrator Barnes discussed the notification
from NSP regarding the gas franchise, for operating,
maintenance and repair of facilities. No action taken,
discussion deferred to April 12, 1978.
Clerk Administrator Barnes discussed city policy re-
garding sewer back-up into private residences. Atty.
Kenefick read a letter sent to the Patrick Kelley
residence, 1402 W. Larpenteur from the City's insurance
company in which they notified the Kelley's payment of
damages was denied. Atty. Kenefick noted to council
that in view of the denial, the Kelley's served notice
for payment to the City, and noted amount due. The
notice serves as a prerequsit prior to going to claims
court to sue the City. Clerk Administrator Barnes re-
ported total cost the Kelley's had submitted, the total
being $179.12 ($149.00 for carpet, $17.64 for shampoo,
cleaner and rinse and vac machine - $12.48). Council-
man Black moved payment of $179.12 to Patrick Kelley
for damages caused by the City sewer back-up. Council-
man Steele seconded. Upon a vote being taken the
following voted "aye": Mayor Warkentien, Councilmembers
Black, McGough, Steele and Brown the following voted
"nay": None. Motion carried.
Attorney Kenefick discussed the policy statement that
had been drawn up to be used as a guide line in handling
sanitary sewer back-up problems concerning private homes.
Councilman McGough moved, seconded by Councilman Black
to adopt Resolution 78-12 covering policy statement
concerning sewage back-up.
RESOLUTION 78-12
A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A POLICY STATE-
MENT CONCERNING SEWAGE BACK-UP
1. The City does not have adequate main-
tenance personnel or equipment to provide
cleanup for individual property owners. It
would be unfair to provide assistance in some
situations and not in others.
2. The City recommends that property owners
obtain professional assistance in clean up
of sewage debris if necessary.
3. If it is subsequently determined that the
sewage back-up was the responsibility of the
City of Falcon Heights:
(a) Bills would be submitted to the City's
insurance company for payment; and
(b) In the event the insurance company
refuses payment, property owners may file
a claim against the City in accordance with
statutory proceedures.
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NSP GAS FRAN-
CHISE
SEWER BACKUP
POLICY
CITY POLICY
STATEMENT -
SEWER BACK-UP
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This issolely a statement of policy by the
City of Falcon Heights concerning the problem
of sewage back-up. Nothing contained in this
statement shall contain an admission by the
City that its insurance carrier will pay any
particular claim or that the City will pay
any particular claim filed against it. Pay-
ment or claims by either the City or its
liability carrier are to be determined on an
individual basis.
Mayor Warkentien called to order at 8:00 p. m. the
public hearing on the Idaho Avenue Curb 8 Gutter
Assessment relative to the improvement between
Arona and Pascal. The Mayor further informed the
audience the affidavit of publication and certifica-
tion of mailing was on file in the Clerk Administrator's
office and informed the audience that the proposed
assessment has been computed at $12.33 per front foot
on all benefitte~ property to defray the total cost of
$14,796.00. At this time Mayor Laarkentien requested
Engineer Lemberg to review the construction data with
the council and those in attendance.
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POLICY STATE-
MENT (CONT.)
IDAHO AVENUE
CURB ~ GUTTER
ASSESSMENT
HEARING
Engineer Brad Lemberg reported the project was completed ENGR. LEMBERG
in the fall of 1977 and that the project was broken into
four separate parts, of which Idaho Avenue was one section.
Just to go over the quantities used on this project,
bituminus removal was estimated at 344 sq. yds, 500 sq. yds
actual used, concrete curb removal est. at 260 ft., actual
use 283.5 ft., 100 gal. protective coat, actual use 70 gal.,.
concrete sidewalk est. based on the surveys, 240 ft.,
actual use 699 ft., concrete curb and gutter, 1,250 est.,
actual 1,270 ft. Sodding in place, 540 sq. yds. est.,
486.33 actual. The final construction cost of the pro-
ject was $11,886.85. The quantity difference is $892.61
over the previous estimate. There were numerous problems
on the project, such as the contractor started excavating
blacktop all the way across the street, as soon as it was
noted, they were stopped. However, by that time they had
excavated most of the street and they were immediati-ly in-
formed they would replace that at their own expense. A
couple other problems did occur on the project, curbing
at the southwest corner of Pascal and Idaho was placed
incorrectly twice by the contractor and twice removed by
the contractor at his cost. There were some changes re-
quested by the residents, additional sidewalk and additional
carriage walks that were put in as part of the project
accounting for the over run on the sidewalk quantities. The
project is now completed and the final estimate has been paid
to the contractor, C.S. McCrossan.
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Councilman Steele questioned why there was so much COUNCILMAN
more on sidewalk construction. STEELE
There were several carriage walks put in and several ENGINEER
replace d, not originally included in the project and LEMBERG
the corner at the end of the street at Pascal, both
corners, sidewalks were put in. The additional carriage
walkways were requested by the homeowners making an
over run. In other words, the homeowner, when re-
questing the additional carriage walk is really in-
creasing costs and should be informed of this. In
some cases we had to replace them because of the
grades, but in most cases, the carriage walks were
placed at the request of the homeowner, because of
broken up sidewalks, or misalignments, a couple of
them were low, they were replaced at their request.
They would not have been replaced normally? COUNCILMAN
STEELE
No, they would not have under the contract. ENGINEER
LEMBERG
So the homeowner is asking this to be done? At the COUNCILMAN
same time, was the homeowner told this would cost STEELE
extra?
This was discussed at the time with Clerk Administrator ENGINEER
Barnes and the contractor and in addition to that, LEMBERG
there was one large driveway that was totally replaced,
our normal driveways out here have been carried back 3'
from the curb, this was carried all the way back to the
lot line rather than putting in a bituminous narrow
strip.
There was quite an overage of bituminous than what COUNCILMAN
was estimated. STEELE
There was an overage of 25 tons, approx. two truck ENGINEER
loads. This again was something Mr. Barnes and I LEMBERG
discussed, on the east end of the project, there had
been for many years, water standing at that inter-
section, a Swale was installed to carry the water
around the intersection.
You have a difference of $4.33 from the estimated GEORGE KILGORE
assessment cost. 1494 Idaho
We are talking construction costs, not overall costs, ENGINEER
engineering, et<:, `r1_e scd estimate is under, side- LEMBERG -
walk is over. I can't estimate bituminous down to two ANSWERS TO
loads, I don't think anyone can. Because if there is AUDIENCE
a 2" difference in street grade, you can use up two QUESTIONS
loads very easily. These are estimated quanties.
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The estimated cost of the project at the time that it
was estimated on Sept. 20, 1976, was $10,400 for all
expenses. After that time there were requests for side-
walks, some requests for other items, in addition there
was inflation (70), all of these put together and in-
cluding engineering brings it to a total cost of
$14,700.00 in round numbers.
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I think the difference partially was in the cost of the
construction, it was estimated at approx $8,000 and it
came in at $11,000 plus. Estimated assessment was
$8.92 per front foot and came in at $12.33 per front foot.
Most of the problem was interference from property owners
to reset the grade, sidewalk and driveway replacement.
Engineering costs are all itemized by hour and day and on
record.
You say double staking was charged off?
There was a request by the residents to change the
grade and that was changed and was not charged; there
were a lot of hours that I spent out there that were
not charged. I can read off the hours per month for
every person who was on the job.
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ENGINEER
LEMBERG
MAYOR
WARKENTIEN
ENGINEER
LEMBERG
How much extra was charged for engineering time on the DAVID ANDERSON
present estimate verses the original estimate. In other 1512 Idaho
words, the original estimate was $10,400 which included
engineering.
As I mentioned before, the contract that was let was ENGINEER
$11,886.85 which does not include engineering, legal LEMBERG
or administration. This was a council decision to bid
the contract.
Why did the construction costs go so high? RAY SCHOMMER
1497 Idaho
As we stated before, the contract came in at a higher ENGINEER
estimated cost and the residents requested the grade to LEMBERG
be changed especially at Mr. Schommer's property by
11 inches.
I believe we are not taking into consideration that the MAYOR
contract was $1,400 over the total estimated cost back WARKENTIEN
in Sept. 1976. In other words, the total cost was
approximately $3,500 over the 1976 estimate.
You must remember the 1976 figure was an estimated ENGINEER
quantity and not based on final plans. LEMBERG
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Why were we led to believe it would be $8.92 per front RAY SCHOMMER
foot and then .came in at $12,33 per front foot? Why 1947 Idaho
weren't we notified?
You were, all decisions were made at public meetings, ENGINEER
of which Dave Anderson was in attendance, including LEMBERG
the letting of the contract.
Clerk Administrator Barnes informed those in attendance CLERK ADMINIS-
that legal proceedures were taken as to publication TRATOR BARNES
calling for bids and the date of the bid opening of
which an affidavit is on file in this office, which
included total construction from Hamline to Snelling Dr.
How were we to know what portion was for our block...
It was broken up in the bids and the block .improved
came in at $11,886.85 which the council awarded.
Was it published by individual blocks or in total?
In total
Is there any way you can break out the cost especially
the carriage walks, as I contracted seperatly for them
at a cost of $40.00.
DAVE ANDERSON
1512 .Idaho
ENGINEER
LEMBERG
DAVE ANDERSON
1512 Idaho
ENGINEER
LEMBERG
DAVE ANDERSON
The carriage walks are all in the contract price, and ENGINEER
we have nothing to indicate they were paid by owners. LEMBERG
I believe Mr. Barnes informed Mr. Anderson that every-
thing should go through the City so we would have records
on it .
Clerk Administrator Barnes cpnfirmed Engineer Lemberg's
statement.
My neighbor also had his contracted and paid for it DAVE ANDERSON
himself and possibly one other that contracted seperately 1512 Idaho
with C.S. McCrossan. My question is, was there a double
charge for this work andI am interested in seeing the
facts.
We do not have any record of you requesting this and ENGINEER
it can be checked out. LEMBERG
I would also be interested in knowing whether there MAYOR
was a double charge in relationship to those two WARKENTIEN
carriage walks.
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The city council has instructed us not to permit private ENGINEER
work being done on a public improvement job~'therefore~ LEMBERG
we do not permit it, as council action of several
years bears this policy out when Tatum Street was seal
coated.
I had inquired whether carriage walks and extensive DAVE ANDERSON
sodding could be done and it was flatly refused. My 1512 Idaho
question is to Lemberg, when we want it done, why isn't
it possible?
Clerk Administrator Barnes informed Dave Anderson
that he must submit to the city in writting such a
request and then council will determine if they will
permit an add on to the job.
That information was not passed on to me.
Engineer Lemberg and Clerk Administrator Barnes informed
Mr. Anderson that he was informed of the proceedure with
C.S. McCrossan employees present when the policy was
explained to him.
CLERK ADMINIS-
TRATOR BARNES
DAVE ANDERSON
1512 Idaho
Let's drop that. Is it a matter of truth that you must DAVE ANDERSON
have curb cuts for the handicapped at the corners and 1512 Idaho
was it in the contract or was that an additional cost
to the contract.
No, there is not additional costs.
What were the actual engineering costs for Idaho?
$2,314.04.
Clerk Administrator Barnes advised council the $500
included in the total cost is for legal, administration,
county costs and miscellaneous expenses that will be
incurred.
Engineer Lemberg advised council that there is a one year
bond on the construction project and the contractor will
have to make adjustments if needed, no further cost to
the homeowner or city.
Why is there some problem in drainage?
ENGINEER
LEMBERG
DAVE ANDERSON
1512 Idaho
ENGINEER
LEMBERG
RAY SCHOMMER
1497 Idaho
The designated grade would have taken care of the problem,
but the residents demanded a grade change. It was also ENGINEER
determined that ice was in the gutter last week blocking LEMBERG
the proper drainage.
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Mrs. Pederson, a former resident maintains water still MRS. JERALD
stands in front of the house they lived in at Pascal and PEDERSON
Idaho, especially on the sidewalk. 1463 Idaho
Engineer Lemberg maintained no sidewalk construction
was included in the project and the sidewalk was lower
than the boulevard. There is no concrete curb and
gutter to have water on Pascal, Idaho intersection. An
attempt will be made to correct this when seal coating is
done.
Attorney Kenefick informed council that if any appeals
were to be made in reference to the assessments, an
appeal must be made within 20 days of the assessment
hearing in. The appeals are to be made in District Court.
Mayor Warkentien read a letter from Dave Anderson to
Richard Jordan, subcontractor, requesting additional sod.
This letter was not submitted to the city for consideration,
which Mr. Anderson was informed must be done before any ENGINEER
additional work can be done. LEMBERG
Mr. Anderson stated it was a seperate contract they were
requesting because the city woudn't add it on to the
current contract.
What can the council do about the extra costs? We feel RAY SCHOMMER
we have someting coming, a lowering of our assessment. 1497 Idaho
Some of the people are complaining they are assessed for
the Arona deal and now the water is going the other way,
so why should they pay that?
Mayor Warkentien said it would not be proper to put a
portion on general taxes as those not being benefitted
would be required to pay for something they did not derive
benefits from.
Clerk Administrator Barnes advised Mr. Anderson again that
we had informed him how we must proceed with add on to
contracts at which time all interested parties left the
council chambers.
Mayor Warkentien moved acceptance of the assessemnt roll
as presented. The people have the option of paying cash
or paying in ten (10) ten yearly installments over the
next ten years with 8o interest rates on the deferred
installments. Councilman Black seconded. Upon a vote
being taken the following voted "aye": Mayor Warkentien,
councilmembers Black, McGough, Steele and Brown the following
voted "nay": None. Motion carried.
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Fire Chief Jerry Renchin reported on the trip. to Elmira,
New York to pick up the new fire truck. The per diem
check received for the trip was $325.00, there was a
refund of $41.03 returned to the city. While in Elmira
the three men were given a tour of the plant and shown
the assembly of a fire truck while being built. The
new truck will not go into service for at least a month,
this will allow time for all men to become familiar with
the truck and its operation. During this time, they will
also be transferring equipment to the new truck. The
fire department is planning an open house atalater date.
Fire Chief Renchin also reported that Mr. Nick Pothen
had donated the burning of his old house for fire drill,
located on Hamline. The dates discussed were April 1st
or April 8th, 1978, they will spend the morning hours in
practice and after lunch complete burning it down,
depending on the wind.
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FIRE DEPARTMENT
REPORT -
JERRY RENCHIN
Attorney Kenefick discussed the NSP Gas Franchise briefly. NSP GAS FRAN-
Discussion was tabled to a future date. CHISE
Discussion was tabled to April 12, 1978
Mayor Warkentien briefly discussed the vandalism at the
Falcon Heights School warming house and whether it should
be retained any longer. Discussion was tabled to
April 12, 1978.
Clerk Administrator Barnes discussed the following
outstanding checks and requested they be taken off the
books. Councilman Steele moved, seconded by Councilman
Black to remove the following outstanding checks from
the books:
Payroll check #7710 issued to Fireman Ken Healy,
issued on January 15, 1976 for fire drill
attended on January 16, 1978 for $3.50
General Disbursement check #9455 issued to Paul
Drach on February 26, 1976 for rink attendant
services performed during Feb. 1976 for $4.00
General Disbursement check #10004 issued to
Faye D. Olson on November 10, 1976 for election
judge services performed during the 1975 (Nov. 4)
elections for $4.00 ;~~~°
Liquor Disbursement check #2723 made payable
to St. Paul Board of Water Commissioners dated
February 11, 1975 for $9.53
SALARIES,
MAYOR & COUNCIL
FALCON HEIGHTS
SCHOOL WARMING
HOUSE
OUTSTANDING
CHECKS
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RECREATION
ADVISORY
COMMITTEE
Upon a vote being taken the following voted "aye": Mayor
Warkentien, Councilmernbers Black, McGough, Steele and
Brown the following voted "nay": None. Motion carried..
Clerk Administrator Barnes reported there will be a
hearing on March 29, 1978 at 9:15 a.m. regarding the
unemployment claim of William Garlick. It was also
noted that J. R. Kelley, former .employee of the liquor
store has also filed for unemployment compensation
against the city. Mr. Kelly's request will be appealed
by the city.
Councilman McGough reported. on the tree committee meeting
held on March 21, 1978. Clerk Administrator Barnes was
present at the meeting. There was general disappoint-
ment on the size of trees that had been ordered. Council-
man McGough felt the members were doing a good job and
expressed his desire they continue to be active for the
city.
41.
NOTICE OF
HEARING
UNEMPLOYMENT
COMPENSATION
TREE COMMITTEE
REPORT
Councilman McGough also made note the U of M has granted
permission to use the field west of the city hall to
store the trees, in order for the roots to be covered
until they can be planted. If it is going to be an
extended period of time, Dr. French reported he would be
able to secure the permission for the trees to be
temporarily planted at the Falcon Woods Park. The
committee discussed the possibility of hiring a super-
visor for the tree planting as Dr. Fench is unable to.
It would require a person familiar with planting operations.
Councilman McGough will check with Charlie Hawkins on
availability and cost involved.
Mayor Warkentien reported he had talked with Mr. Chris NORTHWEST SUB.
Clausan and they would like to have any councilmember YOUTH SERVICE
attend the Ycuth Service Bureau meetings BUREAU MEETING
Councilman Steele discussed the proposed sign for City CITY HALL SIGN
Hall. The size will be approx. 8' x 5', using redwood
materials for the planter box and sign, with the letters
routed into the redwood and red, white and blue flowers
at the base of the sign. Discussion tabled to April
12, 1978.
Councilperson Brown reported on the Recreation Advisory
Committee. The flyers are ready for printing and dis-
tribution in Falcon Heights and Lauderdale.
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Councilman Steele informed the council the
Development Committee meeting will meet fi=
Falcon Woods Park and then go to City Hall
mainder of the meeting. He also noted the
accepted the resignation of Henrietta Thom
committee.
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next Park PARK DEVELOP-
^st at the MENT COMMITTEE
for the re-
committee
from the
Engineer Brad Lemberg suggested the city would require RAMSEY COUNTY
a united front to get Ramsey County to agree they aren't STREET LIGHTS
going to press this law any further, there will be
another meeting on the 29th of March, 1978 to discuss
take over of street lighting. Engineer Lemberg requested
authorization to represent the city on the proposal.
Councilman McGough moved, seconded by Mayor Warkentien.
Upon a vote being taken the following voted "aye": Mayor
Warkentien, Councilmembers Black, McGough, Steele and
Brown the following voted "nay": None. Motion carried.
NEW MAPS FOR
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Engineer Lemberg presented several means used to make COUNCIL
maps that could be hung in the council chambers. Mayor CHAMBERS
Warkentien moved preperation of the zoning maps at a
cost of $308.00, seconded by Councilman Black. Upon a
vote being taken the following voted "aye": Mayor Warkentien,
Councilmembers Black, McGough, Steele and Brown and the
following voted "nay": None. Motion carried.
Mayor Warkentien moved the meeting be extended to MEETING
11:30 p.m., Councilman McGough seconded. Upon a vote EXTENSION
being taken the following voted "aye": Mayor Warkentien,
Councilmembers Black, McGough, Steele and Brown the
following voted "nay": None. Motion carried.
Councilman Black presented a request by letter to operate
a mail order business located at 1766 Holton, they will
be using a local post office box and there will not be
any walk in business or deliveries. Councilman Black
noted that it does fall into the home business of the
zoning ordinances. Clerk Administrator Barnes was re-
quested to notify John Andert, Jr. that he may operate
his business from his home.
Councilman McGough reported to council his findings
regarding the car turn around problem of Mrs. Richards,
1700 N. Fry. Councilman McGough stated removing the
median on Larpenteur is not the solution. After five
evenings of observation, starting at approx. 4:00 p.m.
and lasting until 6:00 p.m. Councilman McGough
compiled a report of all cars during those times turning
onto Fry. There were 82 cars that went up Fry Street,
turned around in the apartment turn around drive to park
in front or went around into the back parking lot, there
were 167 cars that came east on Larpenteur, made a "U"
turn and went over into the parking lot, Councilman
McGough felt Mrs. Richards was exagerated in her account
of cars turning around in her driveway. There was one
MAIL ORDER
SERVICE
1766 N. HOLTON
MRS. RICHARDS
1700 N. FRY
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car in the sixteen hours spent that turned around in a MRS. RICHARDS
private drive and it was not her driveway. Council- (CONT.)
man McGough interviewed five different officers and
they feel she is not having the problem on the level
she is putting it. But being alone feels a little
insecure and vulnernable being a recent widow.
Clerk Administrator Barnes check on the shrub by Buck's
Unpainted Furniture and they are in compliance with
the city regulations. Dr. French will check the shrubs
after they leaf out in spring for any disease present.
Clerk Administrator Barnes distributed to council the HOLLYWOOD COURT
assessment roll for Hollywood Court. The public hearing ASSESSMENT ROLL
for Hollywood Court will be held April 12, 1978 at a
regular city council meeting.
Councilman Steele moved, seconded by Councilman McGough ADJOURNMENT
to adjourn the meeting at 11:17 p.m. Upon a vote being
taken the following voted "aye": Mayor Warkentien,
Councilmembers Black, McGough, Steele and Brown the
following voted "nay": None. Motion carried.
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WILLIS C.A. WARKENTIEN, MAYOR
Attest:
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ewan B. Barnes, Clerk Administrator
Regular Meeting of March 22, 1978