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REGULAR MEETING OF JUNE 8, 1966
The meeting was called to order at 7s00 P.M. with the following presents
Mayor Nilsen, Clerk Strandquist, Councilmen Warkentien, Black and Stone.
Also present were Engineer Lemberg, Attorney Galvin and Treasurer Olsen.
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Minutess Stone moved, seconded by Strandquist that minutes of the
regular meeting of May 25, 19b6 be approved. Motion carried.
Hearing of June Upon request of Attorney Jerome W. Beardsley, attorney for
22nd Continued - the petitioners for the vacation of walkway between Pascal
Vacation of and Holton at Ruggles, the council agreed to continue said
Walkways hearing from June 22nd to July bth. Beardsley stated he
will be out of town on the earlier date.
Correspondence: Letter from Carl Bucher, Ramsey County Weed Inspector,
Weeds to be cut advised that weeds must be eut'by July 1, 1966.
by July 1, 1966:
Copy of letter of Jun® 7, written to St. Paul Water
St. Paul Water Department signed by Engineer Lemberg, stated that offsets
Department - found necessary during construction of Storm Sewer Pro3eet
N.E,Area Storm 66-1, are authorized and cost of same should be billed to
Sewer Project: the Village of Falcon Heights.
Capitol City ~ Letter dated May 27 from Vincent Schadegg, insurance agent,
Mutual Aid Agree- addressed to Attorney Galvin was reviewed. Saone was in
ment -Insurance answer to inquiry regarding insurance premiums and the
Premiums Capitol City Mutual Aid Association Agreement.
HEA~TNGs
Improvement on At 8:00 P.M., Mayor Nilsen opened the Public Hearing for the
Albert Street Proposed Albert-Larpenteur Improvement. Clerk Strandquist
North of Larpenteur read the official notice of hearing. There were approx-
Avenue: imately twenty people present. Engineer Lemberg gave report
as to what is to be accomplished on this proposed project.
R. D. 1Rhaley That water has been hitting me for a long time. Ts this all
170l~ Alberts they are going to do? We .had good drainage before the sewer
was put in. I was assured then that they would go back to
the elevation of the street, but instead, they raised it
about eight inches. I have taken the entrance to mgr drive-
way and diked it. If you put this in, in this way, how do
you intend to drain it? I am definitely against this.
Harry Bruncke My driveway is about at the point where the sewer clean out
1710 Alberts was, and when the sewer was put in, the cover for that
manhole was put down about six inches from where the original
grade was and then they raised the road six inches and my
driveway was about the same as Mr. Whaley's. The water
gets into the driveway and there is no way for it to get out.
We had very good drainage until they built Larpenteur. That
upset the apple cart. The catch basin doesn't do the fob it
should. A11 these factors have contributed to this water
problem. About the sixty fast - it looks to us that it
should go back 160 feet.
Lembergs The reason for sixty feet - that is far enough from the
intersection so we can reshape the gutters to carry the
water into these lower places.
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Resident: If you look in the records, I sent a lot of letters about the
damage done and also was told I could collect nothing. It
seems that the Larpenteur Avenue Improvement is the cause
and we should not have to pay for this.
Whaley: The street or county stopped the flow of water. The Village
should have made the county take care of this
James White Before they fixed the street in the fall of that year, it
1716 Alberts was so muddy, and the hole had all kinds of sand in there
and then when they re-surfaced the road, they blacktopped
right over that - way above grade and engineer's stakes.
When I built the house in 1927, I never had a water problem
on my driveway, but now, I have it running in and over the
top of my sidewalk.
William Mock I live on the corner of Larpenteur and Albert. That goes
1397 Larpenteur: through my property and I am very much opposed to it.
Lemberg explained that the notice sent was not intended to
mean there would be any work done on his property,
Mocks There is no gutter at all for twenty feet. There is a rise
of four to six inches - the water cannot run to the drain.
Right now there is a puddle there. I say - put the gutter
down a little bit.
Lemberg: We have dun levels on it and it would then be too low to go
into the catch basin.
Mocks Higher pitch in the center, maybe?
Nilsen: Where does the water come from that is in your driveway?
Brunekes The water comes down the back end, down the center and winds
up in Liedholm's yard, My garage is six inches below
Albert - right in line with my driveway. The ditch should
be lowered back here to keep it out of the driveways. How
deep would this be?
Lemberg: Four to six feet.
Nilsens Where does the water come out?
Mocks T have two lots and one is lower and it gets two to two-and-
one-half feet deep in the spring. As soon as the frost gets
out of the dry wells, it drains out. The present ones are
six inches lower and they cannot be dropped any more. If
any more, there would be a nine inch drop off.
Whaley: I am for it but I don't want to pay anything if it isn't
going to help the situation any, The engineer wasn't too
good when they put the sewer in. If I hadn't been alert,
I don't know what would have happened. They sent a high
school kid around to measure. They never stopped to find
out that the drain under my hous® is fourteen inches.
Whites I want to get rid of it from the first catch basin on the
west to the second. There is always water in front of the
filling station.
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Lemberg: We will reshape the gutter here both ways.
Blacks Will the gutter be much deeper.
Lemberg: It will be cut down so it will drain down. We want to
reshape the gutters further back,too,and we expect to get
a normal six inch curb, also so that we have a crown on the
street.
Nilsens Suppose Mr. Mock developed the back of his lot, where
would the water go?
Mocks It would go to Liedholm~s driveway. It is lc~w~®r.
Nilsens I am concerned about the water in the spring.
Bruneke: We would like to see you reshape the gutters so that we
have a natural crown and natural boulevard section instead
of one higher than the boulevard.
Warren Hansen We have a lot of water - almost a lake, and there is 3ust a
1757 No. Alberts little too much water for the birds to drink.
Warkentien: We have continual depressing of the streets in front of the
Shell Station. Shouldn't we go beyond - where we can reach
all the water. The big puddle is always in front of the
empty lots there.
Lemberg: It is cheaper and better to reshape the gutters than to lay
six inch pipe all the way. The catch basins will be lower
than what they are naro~.
Warkentiens Let's be sure the drainage Sob is done well enough.
Brunekes What is the possibility of the county paying for this?
Nilsens I doubt that they would pay for anything of this nature. The
County has adopted a nevi policy about all of their roads and
I doubt very much they would pay any of this.
Whaleys The county should have been held responsible for stopping
the flow.
Nilsens As far as the cost - there will not be lE~ assessment. The
street is involved here, too, but the council would not want
to state at this time what the proportion of assessment
would be.
Whaleys I bought 1~2 lo~.ds of dirt brought in to get up to Larpenteur
Avenue level. My property is high enough ncsw so I don't get
much water. That water doesn't come from the street, it
comes from east of us. A11 we would have to do is run a
dike down the back end of our lots and let Hamline Avenue
keep their water over there.
Gene Piche Regarding the method of assessment. It is ~' assumption that
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property owners on Albert. The drainage problem is not on
the deeper lots. I am a little curous for the differential
assessment for the deeper lots as opposed to the Larpenteur
Avenue lots.
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Lemberg: Normally in drainage districts, the front of the lot is
used.
Trustee Stone brought up matter about curb and gutters
that had been installed and the matter of assessments.
Lembergs On curb and gutters to date, the assessment has been X2.50
per front foot and the remainder of cost and replacing of
bituminous has been picked up by the Village,
Nilsens This whole thing bothered me - so I came through there
tonight and there isn't any water.
Brunckes I am in favor of doing something and maybe this is best.
Whaleys You do have drawings and stuff on paper?
Lembergs Yes,
Whaley: I often wondered.
Brunckes I assume that the amount of assessment is so small that it
will not be put on a 20 year assessment - like the sewer.
Answer was 'yes,
Mocks Would it be possible to knock off the hump and not go through
all this pipe business?
Nilsens One of the problems - even if we did that, we wouldn't get
a decent curb and gutter.
There have been a lot of critical problems in going back to
the time this area was developed. The building inspector
now has been instructed to catch these things like changes
in grades.
Brunckes Would it be out of the question to ask the engineer to check
our street about putting a curb and gutter mayi~e at a later
date?
Lembergs We plan to check this at the time the improvement is made.
Nilsens Would it be the consensus of the group here that we should
resolve this now?
Whaleys May we see the plans before it goes in?
Lembergs Certainly, I will be glad to go over it with all of you.
White: Is this a guarantee that it will take care of all the water?
And what if it doesn't?
Nilsens This problem has been gone over for a number of years. We
have the assurance of the engineer and we have instructed
him to lick this problem.
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White
What if he doesn't?
to maintain. I will say right now
gutters, you are bound to get bird
curbs and gutters, we woud guarantee
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Lemberg: We have a reputation
that with bituminous
baths, With concrete
the job.
Mayor asked for show of hands of residents who are in favor
of proceeding with this proposed project. A11 but two were
in favor,
Resolution Ordering The following resolution was introduced by Councilman
Improvement and Warkentien who moved its adoptions
Preparation of Plans
for Improvement 66-1 WHEREAS, it is proposed to improve that portion of the
N.E.Area Storm SewerVillage of Falcon Heights described as follows
Project A-2s
Beginning at the Northeast corner of Larpenteur Avenue
and Albert Avenue, thence Easterly in a line parallel to
Larpenteur Avenue 50.28 feet, thence Northerly in a line
perpendicular to Larpenteur Avenue 172.60 feet, thence
Easterly in a line parallel to Larpenteur 2t~6 feet more
or less, thence Northerly in a line parallel to Albert
Avenue 681 feet more or less, thence Westerly in aline
parallel to Larpenteur Avenue l~91.73 feet more or less,
thence Southerly 705 feet more or less, thence Westerly
in aline parallel to Larpenteur Avenue J~5.7 feet more
or less, thence Southerly in a line perpendicular to
Larpenteur Avenue 157 feet more or less to the Northerly
line of Larpenteur Avenue, thence Easterly in a line
parallel to Larpenteur Avernze 292.30 feet more or less
to the point of beginning, ( hereinafter described as
the Larpenteur-Albert Storm Drainage Area)
by the construction of a storm sewer drainage area and to
assess the benefited property, whether abutting or not, for
all or a portion of the cost of the improvement, pursuant to
Minnesota Statutes Section 1.29.011 to l~29.111 (laws of 1953
as amended).
NOV4f, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF
Falcon Heights, Minnesota:
1. Such improvement is hereby ordered as proposed in
the Council Resolution adopted May 11, 1966.
2. Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik and Associates are
hereby designated as the engineers for this improvement,
They shall prepare plans and specifications for the making of
said improvement.
The motion for the adoption of the foregoing resolution was
duly seconded by Stone and upon a vote being taken thereon
the following voted in favor thereof: Nilsen, Strandquist,
Brack, Stone and Warkentien. And the following voted against
the same: None. Whereupon said resolution was duly declared
passed and adopted by the Council this 8th day of June 1966.
Water on Hemline Mrs. Evelyn Dilger, 1811 Hemline Avenue was present and
Avenue -North of explained to the council her many reasons for rejecting the
Garden:
1811 No. Hemline:
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Water on Hamline suggested manner of obtaining water by angering under
Avenue - Mrs, the street to the Roseville water main on the other
Evelyn Dilger side. Her well water has now become contaminated, she
1811 No. Hamlines believes, and she is in need of water and much prefers
dealing with the village in which she resides.
After discussion, Strandquist introduced the following
resolution and moved its adoption.
Resolution Ordering WHEREAS, it is proposed to improve that portion of
Preparation of the Village of Falcon Heights described as follows:
Report on Improve-
ment on Hamline Commencing at the intersection of Albert and Garden
Avenue by installa- Avenues, thence Easterly approximately 150 feet to the
tion of Water Easterly line of the Falcon Heights School (School
Line: District 623) thence Northerly along said east
property line of said. school to Ruggles Avenue,
thence Westerly to the intersection of Ruggles
Avenue and Albert Avenue
by the construction of a municipal water line and to
assess the benefitted property, whether abutting or not,
for all or a portion of the cost of the improvement,
pursuant to Minnesota Statutes Section l~20.011 to 429.111
(Laws of 1953 as amended).
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE VILLAGE COUNCIL
OF Falcon Heights, Minnesota:
That the proposed improvement be referred to
Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik and Associates for study
and that they are instructed to report to the council
with all convenient speed, advising the council in the
preliminary way as to whether the proposed improvement is
feasible and as to whether it should best be made as
provided or in connection with some other improvement,
and the estimated cost of the improvement.
The motion for the adoption of the foregoing resolution
was duly seconded by Stone and upon a vote being taken
thereon, the follcn~ring voted in favor thereof: Nilsen,
Strandquist, Black, Stone and Warkentien, and the
following voted against the same: None. Whereupon said
resolution was duly declared passed and adopted, by the
council this 8th day of June, 1966.
Equipment on Squad A. W. Bohn, Jr., owner of Emergency Vehicle Supply Company
Car - Agreement with submitted to the Council a five-year lease agreement dated
Emergency Vehicle June 2, 1966. Agreement provides in part that said company
Supply Companyz will furnish and install the following equipment on the
squad car: 1 Federal Model Q2B siren, 1 Federal visibar,
1 EVS Switchbox, and 1 #90 Amber Rear Light. Strandquist
moved, seconded by Warkentien that Clerk be authorized to
sign said agreement. Ayers All. Nays: None. Motion
carried.
Technical Committee Attorney Calvin's letter of June 7 addressed to Eugene
of St. Paul - Sewer Avery, St. Paul City Engineer was read. Said letter d~>ed
Rates i.ri part that Village of Falcon Heights will re-evaluate its
position with respect to payment of present sewer charges, in
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the absence of any report from the St, Paul Technical
Committee.
Power of Licensing: Attorney Galvints letter of June 7 was regarding the power
of licensing of the Village of Falcon Heights. This letter
was prompted by inquiries about licensing of plumbers.
Licensing of Letter states that a municipality cannot license an
Plumbers activity in which the state has pre-empted the field
pursuant to statute. It appears, therefore, that
' ~ Ordinance No. 45 of the Village is probably no longer
enforceable.
Further study shall be undertaken to ascertain whether
Ordinance No. 45 should be revised or amended in its
entirety4
Har Mar Express Strandquist advised he had been informed by Har Mar
Bus Stop: officials that the express bus will not stop at Larpenteur
and Snelling Avenues.
.Playhouse and Fence It was brought to the attention of the council that fence
for Dogs - 1627 for keeping dogs and also a children's playhouse are in
Hollywood Court: violation, inasmuch as they are not on the owner's property.
Said structures have been placed adjacent to the a1 ley
behind 1627 Hollywood Court.
Investment of Fundsa Treasurer Olsen gave report of funds available for
investment. Nilsen moved, seconded by Black that the
fol7.owing investments be made.
From Larpenteur Avenue WaterMain & Pumping Station SF
Purchase 1000 U. S. Treasury Bills due 9/30/66 X986.56
From WaterBdain & San. Sewer of 1963 SF
Purchase 1000 U.S. Treasury Bills due 9/30/66 X986.56
From WaterMain Improvement 1960 -No. 1 SF
'Purchase of 1000 U.S. Treasury Bills due 5/31/67 $953.69
From Refunding San. Sewer Imp. 1963 -SF
Purchase 1000 U.S.Treasury bills due 9/30/66 ~3,9~6.2It
Upon a vote being taken, the motion was unanimously carried.
Tatum Street Drainage: Warkentien moved, seconded by Black that Villagt Mainten-
ance Department be authorized to obtain help, including
equipment rental and operator from the present storm sewer
contractor, on an hourly basis to construct a surface
drainage area between the two homes at 1776 Tatum and 1768
Tatum. Ayes: All. Nays: None. Motion was carried.
Bi11s: Stone moved the foll~aring bills be paid. Seconded by
Strandquist. Motion was carried.
Ramsey County Suburban Life - publications ~ 18.90
McClain, Hedman, Scheldt -file for office l~.65
S,L. Bertelsen, Postmaster - stamps 20.00
Crook and Hanley -developer concentrate for copier 1.35
Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik - Eng.. services 18.50
Thorne Coal and Oil - fuel oil 6p 27
Falcon Heights Hardwire -purchases during May 207.89
Motorola C and E., Inc. - mtce for June 7.70
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Adjournment:
Falcon Heights Shell -gasoline PD l~.00
Northern Automotive Co. -speedometer check 2.00
Minn. F3xe Extinguisher Fire Dept. supplies 6.30
Inter--City Printing Fire Dept. supplies 51.35
St. Paul Overall Laundry - May 13.50
American Linen Supply - May 1l~.~.9
B & E Patrol - animal. control May 33.50
Comm. of Taxation ~NH May 132.25
Federal Reserve Bank - WH May 510.90
State Treas. for PERA - WH May 268.51
Salaries first 1/2 June incl. Volunteer
Fire Department 2,083.27
Upon motion, the meeting was adjourned at 11x30 P.M.
Signed: ~~~
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Mayor
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