HomeMy WebLinkAboutCCMin_59Aug27REGULAR MEETING August 27th, 1959.
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The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P. M., the following Council Members being
present: Harold C. Nilsen, Mayor; George J. Shavor, Trustee, Paul Coppini, Trustee;
and Willis V'Tarkentien, Trustee. Also present were Nick Christensen, Building Inspector,
and Frank N. Graham, Village Attorney. Absents William R. Utecht, Clerk.
Careof Mayor Nilsen presented the County Attorneys letter of August
Prisoners 18th, 1959 enclosin g a proposed contract for the care of
prisoners from the Village of Falcon Heights.
After discussion, it was moved by Shavor, seconded by Coppini,
and unanimously voted the the following resolution be adopted:
RESOLVEb, that the Village Council of the Village of Falcon
Heights hereby approves the proposed contract with Ramsey
County under which Ramsey County will incarcerate and maintain
prisoners without charge for the Village of Falcon Heights
and its Police Department in the County Jail under such corm
ditions as may be prescribed by law, and under the supervision
of the County Sheriff fora period of five years from July 1, 1959.
Water Plain Mayor Nilsen read a letter regarding the Larpenteur Avenue
Water Main and Pumping Station from Attorney Graham, dated
August 25th, 1959.
Graham stated that the Village has no power to compel an individ-
ual to attach to the village main. However, a public place
should be under the jurisdiction of the Village Council and
compelled to connect to the water main.
Robert Hall Graham would give the Robert Hall Company assurances that all
Company construction work is expected completed by October 1st; that we
would go ahead and repair and we would provide reasonable access
' at'all times.
Metropolitan Nilsen read a le+,ter from the Metropolitan Planning Commission
Planning Comm. advising of a hearing on its 1960 Budget on Wednesday, Sept. 2,
Hearing ~.t 1:30, at the Midway Y. PA. C. A.
Greater St: Paul Nilsen read a letter from Dave Cartwright dated August 25, 1959,
Safety Council, regarding a meeting of the Greater St. Paul Safety Council, The
letter stated in part as follows: "I know at one time we were
sending Juveniles to the JP but our speaker stated that this Ras
a Violation of the law and that all juvenile traffic violations
must be handled by the juvenile officers. Cartwright is trying
~enerate further interest in safety organizing in Falcon
Heights, Roseville and the surrounding villages.
New Brighton Nilsen read a letter from Robert R. Collar, Sergeant, New
Police Dept. Brighton Police Department thanking our policemen for their aid
in policing at their Festival.
Pumping Station
& Water Main Graham raised the question~as to whether or not we could get the
pumping station and water main together again in one proceeding.
He checked the law and we can do so if we take certain steps.
We have to have a Public Hearing on Pumping Station with plena
and specifications. We must call for bids and clear with Department
of Health first. Get bids and set date for Hearing. Then go
ahead on financing and procedure. We have to have money for
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water main contractor shortly before September 21st. It will
take 6 weeks to 2 months for bonds, etc. Discussion was held
on what basis the Maple Knoll people should pay for their
extra pressure in water.
FPC Rate Nilsen read a letter from Senator Eugene J. McCarthy stating
Increase he has ordered a suspension of any natural gas Late increase
until December 27th so tha t a thorough investigation can be
made. ~4cCarthy will follow this matter and keep us informed.
Falcon Develop- Don Julep was present and asked for permission to improve
ment Corp. the National Tea Store premises by a:50' addition to the
present building and interior partitioning of the present
building to accommodate a Laundromat, an Industrial Loan
Company and a Hill Brother's Clothing store.
It was moved by Nilsen, seconded by Shavor and unanimously
voted. that this matter be held over for discussion September
3rd, at 7:00 P. Pd. inasmuch as the Village Planner has not had
time to go over the plans completely.
"Back yard" Don Julep requested that a letter be written to him regarding
Development the "back yard" of their business block.
Art Lindig request Art Lindig of 1875 W. Larpenteur petitioned the Council to put
for street in a road adjacent to his property. Ljungren, the Village
Engineer, advised Lindig that all streets have to be put in
according to Village Specifications. Section 50 of the Village
Ordinance was read and explained to Mr. Lindig. Ljungren
agreed to write up a description of the street needed. Graham
will work up a petition from that and will contact ?.?r. Lindig.,
Private Sale of In view of the fact that we will need money sooner than we can
Bonds by Juran get it if bonds are sold at a public sale, Mr. Olson, of Juran
& Moody & Moody, explained the procedure involved in a private sale.
Mr. Olson pointed out his activities with the firm are limited
to private buying of bonds. A private sale is not an unusual
way of handling financing. They have worked with White Bear
Lake, Maplewood, ti°dest St. Paul, New Hope, Savage, etc. When
they set up an issue, they try to analyze it - estimate what
portion might be prepaid; what portion of the people might pay
right away;. what portion will pay in two years, and they can
work call features into the issue. They try to fit the call
features into the improvement itself and try to have as early
a cal'1 on as many bonds as possible without affecting the
interest rates too much.
Mr. Olson also said sometimes we make the last two years of the
issue call be at the end of 5 years, 10 years, all sorts of
different arrangements can be made. Also on occasion, where it
is right at the end of the construction season, and it is a
matter of 30 days, where someone might pay up immediately, we
have held up a block of bonds. We hold the block to see if
you are going to need them or not. If you don't need them, we
cancel them out.
Speaking of interest, I certainly feel that there is something
as important as interest rate - in other words, if you put up
a bond issue for sale, we like to think that these various call
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features mean more than a. straight interest rate itself.
By figuring the entire interest and number of bond years,
you get net interest rate. Net interest rate could be re-
duced by calling in. We do not think the Council should put
too much stress on interest rate. When we buy an issue pri-
vately, we take the issue as set up; we set our basic coupons
on that issue in the same way as public sale. We know what
bonds have to bear to sell to our customers. Normally, a bond
has a ''B" coupon attached. We set that to cover the expenses
involved in issuing the bonds. I wouldn't begin to say the
net interest rate is the same as at a public sale. We do
vary those expenses in a coupon rate. Nfe can tailor it to fit
your needs. V~'e can vrait until the contracts have been awarded,
you don't erid up with too much or too little money.
White Bear has an X850,000. straight issue; they don't need any
gimmicks, It is going to run the full length of the 20 year
period» They can come aut with pretty standard issue. On this
many bonds, put the bidding up for public sale and get the best
rates you can. Bonds for schools, court housesycannot be put
up for private sale.
V'~arkentiens When you speak of assessment, do you mean partial
assessment or 100,°x?
Olsen: Under the statute, 20~ or more is assessed by law.
Shavor: As far as your company is concerned?
Olsen: We couldn't buy them under 20~.
Graham: This assessment gives rise to what we ran into on
sewer prepayments. He is making the point that there are ways
at their disposal in negotiating bonds, that they can keep the
door open. If we get a lot of prepayments we won't have to issue
as many bonds. With the sewer, we had to buy back some bonds at
a premium. We would have the right to get them back in an
agreement worked out beforehand, and they could sit for 30 days
or so to see how the assessments are going to come in.
Olsen: Vde find that 10~ prepayment is about average.
?~'!arkentien: These various features are going to have to be
compensated in the interest rate.
Olsen:. V1e can work it out to get the best call feature without
affecting you cost wise.Too many call features can affect you
adversely, but it is our fob to advise you, We know what we can
sell with ease, and we will advise you to stay away from tough
things to sell. We can work this out so you get the best possible
plan without it costing too much.
Graham: The person you are dealing with will tell you what you
can or cannot do. If you put it, 3n .advertisement for bids, you
don't know what effect it will have an the bids. It seems to me,
on a small issue like this, it is to your advantage to negotiate
these things. Suppose we had a X75,000, bond issue which was
going to stretch out 20 years, what is the market today and what
would be the negotiated interest rate.
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Olsen: If you are thinking about a 10 year issue, you
would probably be looking for something around 4.20, 15 years
possibly 4.40. I am talking negotiated sale. That would in-
clude printing arid. legal etc. That would be my best guess
today with the information I have now. The market has been
holding pretty steady - at least it has been the same for
the past three weeks. It might go up. No one can tell.
Those in the know say it is supposed to go higher.
Shavors Is the interest rate seasonal?
Olsen, yes it is. It is usually lower this time of the
year. However, last year it did not do much that way, and
there isn~t any tendency to do much now. If we get any indi-
cation of a change, I will call them about the bonds and get
them out of the way right away, If there is a market change,,
and if it is better for the municipality, we change the rate.
If the market changes and to our detriments we are stuck.
Shavor: How do you negotiate these things? Do you expect
to have any competition?
Olsen: It has happened that. a Council will talk to other
firms, The way to get your best set up is to pick a firm
and say we will work with you so they can sit down and. ad-
vise ,you as to maturities, call featuresi etc.s and say, on
this basis, we will dive you an interest of say 4.02. P~~e
would like to do a job on it.
Nilsens ~Je have always been thinking of 20 years
Grahams 't'his is a net interest all the way through to the
maturity?
Nilsens That is right.
Grahams The longer maturities draw higher interest rates.
Nilsens Some of this will be assessed and some on connection
charge. Some will be immediate connection.
Olsens It looks like you have a case here where we could
look into a few possibilities - hold some bonds for you --
put some early maturity - some fairly early on the next
Shavors What would be the thing to do, get together vrith you,
Frank, on this?
Grahams I thought it was a good idea since we had. this problem
to get you familiar with what could be done. Vern, have you
had this problem at different times? Would you state this is
a fairly common thing?
Ljungren: ?dine have all been negotiated in public sale.
Most street improvements and water improvements, except for
New Brighton, which was negotiated.
Warkentiens I feel that we should try this means. I would
just as soon go along with one firm go ngd
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Nilsen: We feel we have to rely on people. If we come to
you for this' I am sure we will get it.
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Olsen: We will try to give you several options and you can
have a choices and make your own decision.
It was moved by V~Jarkentien, seconded bjr Coppini and unanimously
voted that the Mayor and the Village Attorney be authorized to
work with Olsen of Juran & Moody in regard to the financing
of the water main and pumping station improvement.
West Falcon Heights Curtis Larson and Dr. Stowe were present. Larson reported on
Playground the x~rogress of the committee and the activity at the play-
ground. Regarding the h3-anca of $220• for grading the play-
ground, it was decided to hold this bill until the Council
heard further from the administrators of the Mergen Estate.
Water main and It was moved by Shavor, seconded by Coppini and unanimously
pumping station voted to adopt the following resolutions
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ti'VHEREAS, it is proposed to improve Larpenteur Avenue from
Snelling Avenue to a point 726 feet East of the center line
of Cleveland Avenue by the extension of a water main and the
construction of a pumping station, and the assessment of the
abutting property for all or a portion of the cost of the im-
provement, pursuant to Minnesota Statutes' Section lt29.011 to
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NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE VII,LA(~ COUNCIL OF FALCON
HEIGHTS, MNNESOTA s
1. That the proposed improvement be referred to Vernon L,
Ljungren, for study and that he is instructed to advise the
Council as to whether the proposed improvement is feasible
and as to whether it should best be made as proposed or in
connection with some other improvement, and the estimated
cost of the improvement as recommended.
2. Vernon L. Ljungren is also directed to prepare plans and
specifications for the construe tion of the pumping station in
order that bids may be called for and received on this improvement
at the time when the public hearing is held on this improvement
to provide the necessary information in determining the desires
ability and feasibility of the improvemento
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Police Service Night Relief Police Officer, Henry Dachtera, the policeman on
duty, was asked to appear before the Council at the request of
the Mayor for the purpose of reviewing police procedures in the
Village. The members of the Council went over policy matters
at length with Dachtera and pointed out the necessity for ad-
herance to the requirements of the Rules and Regulations for
Police Officers that had been formulated by the Council for
assurance of proper village coverage. Matters involving the
question of judgment in several incidents were reviewed, and the.
necessity for understanding that not all police matters Hermit
complete discretionary judgment of the duty policeman and that
first and foremost in the concern of the Council is the protection
of life and property within the limits of Falcon Heights.
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Adjournment (~{~,. mo tion, the meeting adjourned at 10:00 P, ?~4,
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