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REGUhAR r7EETING 69/60
T~,4eeting was called to order at 7s00 P. t,4., the following Council ?Members being
presents Harold C. Nilsen, D.4ayor; George Shavor, Trustee; Paul Coppini, Trustee;
and Willis VJarkentien~ Trustee. Also present were Frank N. Graham, Village
Attorney; yVm. E. Olsen, Treasurer and Ethel E. White, Dep. Clerk and Dep. Treas.
Absents Wm. R. Utecht, Clerk.
The ?Minutes of June 2nd were approved as submitted.
Licensees On motion by Nilsen, seconded by Coppini, and unanimously carried
License #30 to sell non-intoxicating malt liquors on premises
was granted. to Virginia R. Piecek, Lido Cafe, 1611 W. Larpenteur.
On motion by Coppini, seconded by Shavor, and. unanimously carried,
License #51~ to sell non-intoxicating 'Malt Liquors off premises
was granted to S. S. Grais, Gray's Drug Stores, 1552 W. Larpenteur.
On motion by Coppini, seconded by Nilsen and unanimously carried,
License #55 to sell Non-Intoxicating malt liquors off premises was
granted to Virginia R. Piecek, Lido Cafe, 1611 W. Larpenteur Ave.
On motion by Nilsen, seconded by Coppini, and unaf~imously carried,
licenses #119 and 120 to sell cigarettes at ~gando Photo and Ba.den's
Pure Oil were issued to Pioneer Vending Company, 266 E. 7th St.,
St. Paul, l~ R2innesota.
On motion by Nilsen, seconded by Shavor and unanimously carried,
license #117 to sell cigarettes was issued to Gray's Drug Store,
1552 w. Larpenteur.
On motion by Coppini, seconded by Shavor and unanimously carried,
License.#118 to sell cigarettes was issued to Lido Cafe, 1611 W.
Larpenteur Ave.
On motion by Nilsen, seconded by Coppini, ~~4aster Gas Installer's
License #138 was issued to Geo. S. Sean, dba Northwestern Heating
Engineers, Inc., 970 Raymond, St. Paul, 14, rainn.
Police Letter of June 1st from sirs. C. VJ. Roberts was read. She thanked
the Falcon Heights Police for their courtesy.
Letter from Dewey Smith advising he expected to arrive June 13th
was read.
Water Slama's report on hydrant water pressures was read and filed for
Pressure future reference. •
Streets Copies of letters wri+,ten by Bonestroo to the Ramsey County
Engineers and the City of St. Paul were read. Letters asked for
correction of drainage on Albert and called a+.tention to needed
repairs to Hamline near Iowa.
The Deputy Clerk was instructed to refer Robert Blomberg's letter
of June 6th to Engineer Bonestroo.
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Schmelz Nilsen moved that the Hearin- be continued until 9:30, June 15th.
B:ezoning Seconded by Shavor a.nd c~~rried,
Falcon Heights Treasurer Wm. E. Olsen reported T!!r. Sanford of the Falcon Heip_hts
State Bank State Bank called and told him they would like to reinvest the
Securities securities they are holding to guarantee the Falcon Heights
Bank Account in something that would pay them a greater return
and the Deputy Clerk was instructed to get the receipt out of
the Safety Deposit Box and give it to ?~Zr. Sanford. The guaran-
tee will remain the same.
Streets Graham reported on Bonestroo's letter regard~:ng~-. some settling
of streets over sewer lines. Graham will check further with
Bonestroo.
Hermes' Nilsen reported on developments and Attorney Graham said it was
Business his opinion that it was a private matter between the owners of
Block the business property and the residents. It does not involve
the Council.
Vacation alley At this point, mayor Nilsen recessed the regular meeting to
Johnson Peti- hold a special hearing on the vacation of the 20' platted alley
tion which runs from Pascal to Holton approximately 125' north of
Larpenteur, as petitioned by Norman L. Johnson and others.
R4ayor Nilsen read notices as published and posted,
Norman John- Besides the original petitioners, I have gotten the names of
son. various neighbors up and down the street in support of the
vacation. He submitted a paper reading as follows: "6"+e the
undersigned are in favor of closing the alley between Holton
and Pascal Rvenues as the alley is of no consequent need;
Paper was signed by lit residents.
At the time the alley was designa±ed in the original plat, it
was thought the area would be semi-commercial. It didn't develop
that way. It is entirely residential. The petition for vacation
has been signed by 100% of the abutting property owners. The
alley isn't suitable for vehicular traffic. Vdhen it is muddy,
cars get stuck in there. A Tr;lephone Truck kept us awake half
of one night trying to get out.
Coppini This matter has come up before. It is a sore spot, and, in my
opinion, should never have been used as a thoroughfare. The
Village has not spent any money on it.
Nilsen The Village doesn't keep up any alleys until they have first been
brought up to specifications by the adjoining property ovmers.
Shavor I think we should put posts in there.
Johnson I was told that could not be done. Therefore, I favor the only
other alternative - vacation.
Shavor If it were blocked off to motor traffic, would you take care of
it then?
Johnson Do you mean 3ust put posts across it? I think there might be a
legal responsibility in case of accident.
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Shavor I would suggest putting them in at the head of the alley on
both sides.
Johnson I have to get into my garage. P~4y garage is at the rear property
line. I think the only answer is to vacate it and let us maintain
it that way.
Nilsen read report from Dahlgren, which read, in part, as follows:
"Alley noes not serve it's intended function of providing vehicular
access to the lots facing Larpenteur, which use direct street
access. Home owner on Holton, immediately north of the alley,
uses alley as a driveway. East portion is surfaced with crushed
rock. P.emainder is unimproved. Alley serves important function
in providing pedestrian access to~the business district. Pedestrian
traffic would be more adequately served with a sidewalk along
Larpenteur. Pdhen sidewalk is installed, alley would no longer be
needed, and could be relinquished to the adjoining property owners."
Nilsen read report from the Planning Co^~mission which read, in part,
as follows: "The Planning Hoard recommends that the alley be
closed to automobile traffic by erecting a barricade, but that it
remain as Village Property and that it be kept open to pedestrian
and bicycle traffic. If, after two years, the change has resulted
in any further problems, or if the use by pedestrian and bicycle
traff'e does not justify it's continuance as public property; or
if a sidewalk is constructed on Larpenteur, the case should again
be reviewed."
Johnson Under those circumstances, the only thing to do is to show cause.
Shavor Show cause why the alley should not be uacated?
".Zrs. S. L. There have been many times when we hay=e been kept awake by cars
Carlson 1713 going thru that- alley. One night a telephone truck kept us awake
Holton all night.
Johnson I just put four ton of crushed rock in there.
Nilsen You have to keep up your end because you have to go through there
to get into your garage.
Johnson I can't see any reason why it shouldn't be closed.
Coppini Has that alley ever been black-topped. I notice the alleys t+est
of it have been black topped.
Graham The ovaners of the abutting property paid for the improvement of
those alleys.
Johnson The other blocks are semi-commercial -- duplexes, !t plexes and
apartments. They need an alley. I am the only adjoining property
owner who uses the alley in question.
Plilsen I have always felt we should have sidewalks on Larpenteur, as
well as Arona. People shouldn't have to walk on these busy streets
on their way to the business section.
Johnson People walk along the boulevards on Larpenteur.
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Nilsen I see many of them -°ralking in the street on both T,arnenteur and
Arona. In the ~^+int>,:r, :~snecially. No~ody sho~r~,ls a path along
the boulevards for them.
Coppini '~ay I ask the `Tillage Attorney if we are committed in any way
because we have put "No Thoroughfare" signs at both ends?
Graham No, we are not committed. ~t all. The law says no vacation is
to be made unless it is in favor of the public.
Sam Carlson If this alley is vacated, no one can go through, even pedestrians?
Shavor Not even pedestrians.
Graham I think we could barricade it.
Johnson I had. thought of planting shrubbery in there which would prohibit
vehicular traffic but permit pedestrian traffic. Cars pull in
there and use it for a Lover's Lane.
Shavor How many times does that happen?
Johnson Quite often.
Shavor What a•e our policemen doing?
Johnson He can't get in there.
Nilsen He could shine a light in there. It serves no function as far
as vehicular traffic is concerned, but pedestrian traffic is
another problem, I vrould like to see sidewalks on Larpenteur
before the alley is closed to pedestrian and bicycle traffic.
Johnson Someone stole the tire off my wheelbarrow and a snow tire.
Shavor That happens in other alleys and even vrr~ere there are no alleys.
I feel I have to go along vrith the planners and the planning
commission. I am not in favor of giving away Village property.
Vacation would result in the acquisition of about X500.00 worth
of property to each abutting property owner. 4`ie don't know
the ultimate value of that property, To my way of thinking, we can
achieve practically the same result as vacating if we barricade
the street against vehicular traff.'ic in such a manner that.
vrould permit Johnson entry to his garage. ,
V~arkentien 1";e might nedd an alley there to accommodate commercial T~roperty
in the future, probably twenty or thirty years from now.
Shavor 3y that time some of those houses will be ovor forty years old
and someone might come along and buy them for commercial use.
Then the~e would be the possibility of the Village having to nay
good money for it.
Johnson If it is vacated, the village will receive tax benefits.
Shavor The Village gets only 10%. For the present, and under conditions
as they exist, it seems to me that barricading the a_11ey to
prohibit vehicular traffic would serve your purpose just as v~~ell.
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Johnson In a few ,years, under. a different council, we may have to go
through this whole thing again.
Shavor ~i;'ha.tever decision is made will be recorded in such a manner
that any succeeding Council will be able to see our reasoning.
They will undoubtedly review the record. if the matter comes up again.
Nilsen I think the people should seriously consider sidewalks along .
Larpenteur. A sidewalk along Larpenteur would serve a large area
but it is customary for the abutting property owners to pay for it.
It is nossi'~;le the business men might consider paying part of the
cost.
Johnson l!Jhat.would my responsibility be if I put in posts and shrubbery
and someone had an accident?
ti",arkentien I don't like the idea of shrubbery. I think tiosts with scotch-
light tape would be the thing.
Graham I am concerned about pedestrians. The Council is concerned about
stopping vehicular traffic. I think it should be referred to the
Engineer, I think we could justify anything the Council wanted
to do if they hold to barricading that alley. If someone goes
barreling through that alley and hits a post, a claim could be made.
Nilsen i'~e could leave it "No '?"horoughfare,"
Shavor I think the Vi:!lage has a right to barricade a non-passable alley.
Graham I don't think these people should be permi±ted to plant shrub~ery
until the T~illa~e Engineer has decided where to place the posts.
Johnson I think we vrill go ahead with an order to show cause.
Graham That's your privilege. I don't think we should give you folks the
privilege of putting in shrubbery until the Village puts in Hosts.
Then you can put your shrubbery around anywhere you want to, vF.'e
will not give up the rights of the public to ever utilize that
property for an alley.
Carlson It would be much better to have a sidewalk on Larpenteur.
Shavor According to custom, it would have to be assessed to the adjoining
property owners. ~;'hy knows it might be to the advantage of the
.businessmen to share in the cost of a Sidewalk. In the meantime
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you will get what you want. Vehicular traffic will be kept out.
It think it is a good compromise myself.
Tars. Carlson All ±he neighbors are very cooperative, I have never heard of
anyone stopping the children even when they go through private
property.
Johnson °:~ir. '.layor, I would like t.o see curbing on the streets.
:~dilsen 'v'!e ha~,~en't hack any petitions for it.
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Shavor moved that the petition be rejected but that the Village
barricade the alley to vehicular traffic in such a manner that
pedestrian and bicycle traffic be continued, and that the details
of barricading be referred to the engineer for his recommendations,
bearing in mind that Johnson has to have access to his garage,
and that action be taken as soon as possible. Seconded by
Vdarkentien and unanimously carried.
On motion by ti5`arkentien, seconded by Shavor, the following bills
were ordered paid:
SINKING FUr1D:
American Nat'l. yank, Int. and bank chgs on sewer
dated 7~1~57 due 7~1~60
GENERAL FUND:
Bertrand J. Slama, grater pressure survey
B & E Patrol, dog catcher service
Kenneth Schmidt, policing P,Zay
Peter T. Peterson ditto
LeRoy Humphrey, ditto
Jerome R. Johnson, overtime policing P~~ay
Ethel E. ~4`hite~ services 1st half of June
Volunteers, fire and drill time
Ramsey Co. Treas., remove signs and street lights
~.7. 1Rt. Plan. ?~ Research, Inc. , village planning
State Fair Car '+~lash, car wash books
Gray's Drug Stores Ist aid supplies
Rose Tribune, print notice
Rose Tribune, print notice
Dunn 1~M~elding Sup. , oxygen
Thermo-Fax Sal~:s Corp., office supplies
Continental Safety Equip. Inc., safety treads
Gordon Nelson, investigation
Volunteers , sewer ti~rork
~'tm. Jastrow, fees and expenses 1 mo
H. J. Dachtera, policing °.:qay
U. S. Postmaster, stamps
?+!lotorola C & E maint. radio squad car
Thorne Coal ~r Oil, fuel oil
Chippewa Springs, water service
Rose Tribune, publish notices
Paramount Tailors, uniform exp.
Falcon Heights Shell, tires squad car
Falcon Heights Hdwe., supplies
American Linen, laundry
On motion
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Johnson Couldn't the Village instiga±e its
Shavor That, isn't the way we do things. jr~e don't force anything on
the public unless it entails public health and welfare.
That's why people moved. out here -- to get away from sidewalks,
curbing, etc.
?oline The Catch 3asin on the 4'~~est side of Holton at Larnenteur is
1)33 VJ. Larp. too high. The water can't drain into it. It pockets along the
V~test side of the street and floods over onto my boulevard and
lawn. The Deputy Clerk was instructed to call this matter
to the attention of the Village Engineer.
Sills
Adjournment
A.-~*~roved~~
the meeting adjourned at
ldayor Signed.
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