HomeMy WebLinkAboutPCAgenda_08Nov25City of Falcon Heights
Planning Commission
City Hall
2077 W. Larpenteur Avenue
Tuesday, November 25, 2008
7:00 p.m.
AGENDA
A. CALL TO ORDER: 7:00 p.m.
• B. ROLL CALL: Anderson Hasegawa Noble
Rodich Salzberg_ Watkins
Council Liaison Kuettel
City Administrator Miller Staff Liaison Jones
City Attorney
D. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: July 22, 2007
C. AGENDA
1. Reaffirm approval of the city's draft comprehensive plan prior to
submission to the Metropolitan Council
E. INFORMATION AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
F. ADJOURN
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CITY OF
FALCON HEIGHTS 2077 W. Larpenteur Avenue
Falcon Heights, MN 55113-5594
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MEMORANDUM
To: Members of the Planning Commission
CC: Justin Miller, City Administrator;
Laura Kuettel, Council Liaison
From: Deb Jones, Staff Liaiso
Subject: Planning Commission eeting on November 25, 2008
Date: November 21, 2008
Phone - (651) 792-7600
Fax - (651) 792-7610
The Planning Commission will meet at 7:00 p.m. on Tuesday, November 25, to
reaffirm approval of the draft comprehensive plan before it is sent to the
Metropolitan Council. We have been advised by our sector representative that
this step is necessary even though the City Council has already given its blessing
to the draft.
Your attendance Tuesday is vital. A special meeting of the Commission will be
called the first week in December if we are not able to muster a quorum on
Tuesday, November 25, in order for us to be able to submit our plan on time. As
of this morning we are down to no more than a quorum.
Please see the staff report for additional information about changes that have
been made in the draft since your original action. We hope you enjoy taking a
look at this more polished version of the document! A few minor tweaks remain
to be done, but this is essentially what we will be sending to the Metropolitan
Council.
The only other agenda item is approval of the July minutes, so the meeting could
be very brief.
On behalf of the staff, I would like to thank you all for your service to the City of
Falcon Heights this past year. I look forward to seeing you Tuesday evening!
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City of Falcon Heights
• Planning Commission Minutes
July 22, 2008
PRESENT: Commissioners Anderson, Hasegawa, Lukermann, Noble, Rodich,
Watkins. Also present were Council Liaison Laura Kuettel, City Attorney Cynthia
Kirchoff and staff liaison Deborah Jones.
ABSENT: Commissioner Salzberg (with notice)
A quorum being present, the meeting was called to order by the chair at 7:04 p.m.
The minutes of the June 24, 2008, meeting were approved.
PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CITY SIGN CODE
Staff liaison Jones gave a brief summary of the issue and the process to date.
Additional information is available on the website. A draft ordinance has been
prepared in accordance with the commission s discussions in June. The commission
was asked to make a recommendation to the City Council on the draft ordinance,
incorporating any changes they might see fit. The ordinance includes only the
portions of the sign code that are up for change at this time; the rest of the chapter
still applies. Jones reviewed the provisions in the proposed ordinance.
• The chair opened the public hearing. There being no one who wished to speak, the
public hearing was closed.
COMMISSION DISCUSSION:
The chair opened the commission discussion by calling for comment from
commissioners.
Commissioner Lukermann asked how many signs in the city are presently non-
conforming. Jones said the only one that came to mind was the roof sign for The
Source, which is legally non-conforming (and not a dynamic sign). She did not know
if the pylon sign for the center is non-conforming but stated that any change applied
for would have to bring it into conformity with the code.
Commissioner Noble said she felt the proposed 150 foot buffer would not be enough
to keep glare from Falcon Heights Town Square if a dynamic sign were to be
installed in the Snelling Larpenteur area outside the buffer. At her request, Jones
showed slides of maps for both 150 feet and 200 feet for comparison.
• Commissioner Anderson pointed out several possible "holes" in the draft ordinance
that might be open to interpretation that would allow the kind of distracting
elements the commission has been trying to avoid. She asked for stronger language
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in section 8 to make the ordinance more specific and explicit and leave no doubt as to
• the city's intent. The commissioners joined in a detailed discussion of the language
of those provisions.
Commissioner Noble asked what is served in the city by allowing dynamic signs at
all. Her concern is the impact on adjacent residential areas and whether the
brightness limits in the draft are realistic. The "nits" measurement unit only applies
to these kinds of displays, and the numbers given are conservative compared to
other cities, according Ms. Kirchoff. Additional discussion on brightness standards
followed.
Commissioners continued to discuss the language of the provisions and the larger
question of whether an outright ban should be considered after all. Would the city be
subject to challenge if we enacted an outright ban? Commissioners had previously
been advised that this might be the case and Council Member Kuettel said that the
Council would not want to see that happen. If the city were to allow the dynamic
signs but place restrictions that eliminated most opportunities, would that meet the
concerns raised so far without subjecting the city to legal challenges?
After more discussion, Commissioner Lukermann proposed a motion that the
commission recommend approval of the draft ordinance with the attachment of
several caveats, including a call for more research into the nit limits in Section 8,
• paragraph 8 and some decision on the undetermined surface area in Section 8,
paragraph 2. Anderson said she would like an amendment to the motion to require
more specificity in the parts of Section 8 that she brought up earlier. Commissioner
Watkins pointed out that there was not yet a consensus on the 150 foot distance from
residential.
Commissioners once again addressed the specifics of the restrictions in Section 8 of
the ordinance, selecting 150 feet for the distance from residential property and 25
for the amount of sign area that may be dynamic. Commissioners also stated that
they would like to have language inserted that met Commissioner Anderson's
concerns about interpretation of paragraphs 3 and 5. They also wanted more specific
time limits, sunrise and sunset rather than "dawn' and "dusk," for the change of
brightness and to limit the display change time to between 9:00 a.m. and noon.
Anderson proposed additional language for paragraph 4 that would specify one
color and brightness of light on a dark background. and, with the assistance of the
city attorney, came up with language that would meet the concerns articulated by
Commissioner Anderson.
In view of the motion on the floor not having received a second and so many changes
being introduced, Commissioner Lukermann said she would like to restate her
• motion. Ms. Jones read out the changes that that had been made to the wording of
the ordinance in the course of the preceding discussion. After further refinement of
the wording by the Commission, Ms Lukermann accepted these changes as a friendly
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amendment to her original motion; Watkins seconded the motion and called the
question. The motion carried.
INFORMATION AND ANNOUNCEMENTS:
The Ice Cream Social is coming up next week, with fun to be had for all. Volunteers
are needed, especially for the dunk tank. The event is a wonderful occasion for
residents of all ages with plenty of activities and entertainment. The location is
Community Park.
Jones reminded commissioners of an upcoming training opportunity.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting adjourned at 9:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Debora ones, Staff Liaison
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Planning Commission
11/25/08
ITEM: Approval of 2008 Comprehensive Plan Update
SUBMITTED BY: Justin Miller, City Administrator
Deb Jones, Staff Liaison
EXPLANATION:
Falcon Heights is required to submit a new comprehensive plan to the Metropolitan
Council by the end of 2008. For the past year and a half, the city council, steering
committee, planning commission and staff have been working on the draft plan so that it
meets the requirements set forth by the Metropolitan Council. Steps in the process have
included:
• Open houses to allow for public comment
• Planning Commission and City Council reviews
• Neighboring city reviews
• Technical agency (watershed districts) reviews
Earlier this year, the city council approved a draft to submit to our neighboring cites and
technical agencies for their reviews. One result of this review was that the watershed
district asked us to submit a more detailed water management plan, which the council
• approved last month. The water resource section of the comprehensive plan has been
modified to incorporate the Local Water Management Plan by reference. In addition,
minor errors have been corrected. We anticipate a few more corrections of this type and
replacement of the watershed district map with a higher resolution version before the
plan is submitted.
Although the Council has already adopted the plan for submission to the Metropolitan
Council, we have been advised that approval of the P1aiuling Commission is also
required at this stage. Therefore, you are asked to give a formal affirmation to the
Council's approval.
The attached plan is the culmination of a lengthy process. Our appreciation should go
out to those who helped craft the plan, especially the Comprehensive Plan Steering
Committee and Planning Commission.
Following Planning Commission action, the plan will be sent to the Metropolitan
Council for their review. After their review, if any changes are needed, the city council
will re-adopt it again in 2009.
ACTION REQUESTED:
Staff recommends that the Falcon Heights Planning Coirunission approve the attached
2008 Falcon Heights Comprehensive Plan for submittal to the Metropolitan Council.
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