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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
November 8, 1993
7:00 p.m.
FALCON HEIGHTS CITY HALL
AGENDA
A. CALL TO ORDER:
B. ROLL CALL: Jacobson Nicholson
Schugel Thatcher Weisberg
Kriegler Gehrz
C. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND MINUTES OF: October 11, 1993
D. REPORTS, REQUESTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
D-1. University Grove Park Improvement Project
D-2. Community Park Prairie Planting Project
D-3. City Park Facility Rental Fee Schedule and Policy
ADJOURNMENT
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
10/11/93
Members present: Lloyd Jacobson; Morris Nicholson; Jyneen Thatcher;
Carol Weisberg; Carol Krieglr, Parks Director; and Sue Gehrz, Council
Liason.
Guest present: Nancy Wickham
Minutes from meeting of 9/20/93 were approved.
D-1: University Grove Park Improvements. Carol Kriegler reported on
the progress in the improvements to Grove Park. The sidewalks are in,
both along the street and into the park, and also the slab for the
warming shelter. The expanded basketball court should be installed this
week. Most of the items ordered for the park have come in. These
items, the benches, baseball backstop, and basketball standards will go
in after the court bituminous work is completed and after the turf is
repaired. This will minimize the chance of damage from construction
equipment.
The bid has been received from the electrical contractor. The
push-button timer, security light and activity light are all possible,
with good coverage but low spill. Residents of 1666 Coffman will still
be able to see the light, but it shouldn't shine their direction. There
will not be heat in the shelter, due to the high yearly maintenance
effort that would be needed, but this can be reconsidered in the future.
The hockey. boards have been delivered to the park, but not yet
installed.
Plantings will be done in the spring. A Grove resident has offered to
help with tree selection, and Carol K. will keep her name for
consultation in the spring.
D-2: Community Prairie Planting Update. Carol K. reported on the
progress of the prairie project. Spraying was done on 10/1/93, although
conditions were not ideal (higher than desired winds, and lower
temperatures). The current sub-contractor does not appear excited about
this project. Carol has met with Ramsey County several times lately,
because of the poor progress. They have now agreed to do only the area
of disturbed soil around the wetland, and that will be done this fall.
The area of existing vegetation will be contracted with a different
firm, for completion in the spring. As compensation for this change in
contract, the count will finish additional linear feet of trail within
the park, in addition to re-doing the trail around the wetland, which is
too close to the water edge and has some undesirable intersections. F"or
erosion control over the winter, the county agrees that it should be
seeded and mulched soon. The pond does not appear to be infiltrating
as it was expected. Studies will be done by the city engineer on the
ponds functioning.
With these changes in the program, the community service seedling
planting was rescheduled for Sat. Oct. 30. Because of the uncertain
timetable, we may not be able to give much notice to community
volunteers, other than the Boy Scouts. However, the planting in the
spring of the rest of the prairie will afford a second chance.
D-3: City bicycle/ pedistrian plan. The Commission was asked to review
the City's existing bicycle and pedestrian plan, which was adopted in
November 1991. The major concern at this time, is regarding ..the
proposed path along Larpenteur. But since so many issues are undecided
relating to the street improvements on that section, the Commission felt
that it could not comment at this time. When plans are solidified, such
as street width and right-of-way width, the Commission will address the
issue. In a discussion of street safety, Jyneen mentioned that the stop
light on northbound Snelling at Roselawn is timed so long Cwith no left
turn on red arrow) that a lot of traffic appears to travel on Garden
instead of Roselawn. Garden passes by the school, and increased traffic
could be dangerous.
D-4: Review of city park rental policy. Carol W. noted that the use of
the parks for get-togethers promotes a sense of community, which is one
of the goals of the Parks and Recreation Commission. The existing fee
schedule requests a payment, to cover staff time for cleaning and
supplies, in addition to a damage deposit. Sue noted that of the list
of groups who receive fee waivers, most use the facilities at City Hall,
and perhaps the use of the park facilities may be less formalized.
Discussion of the issues involved with allowing more open use raised
questions about responsibility. Nancy noted the possibility of someone
not affiliated with the reserving group causing damage, and the
group being held responsible.
This is a real concern at Curtiss Field, where teenagers have been
hanging out, beyond park closing times, and intimidating other park
users. Response from the police has been slow. Sue feels this needs to
be treated as a community problem, if residents are uncomfortable using
their neighborhood parks. She suggested a meeting between city
officials Cmayor, city administrator), Roseville Police, Job Corps
staff, and park neighbors to discuss this problem, and to identify the
curfew limits and monitoring of the park. Sue also suggested the option
of increasing the park surveillance and rule enforcement service, when
considering the renewal of the Polic contract.
The Commission felt that the problems at Curtiss Field needed to be
addressed, and that these problems of safety and comfort have a higher
priority than revision of fee schedules. Further discussion on rental
fees was postponed until a later meeting.
Jyneen Thatcher, Secretary and Chairperson
Falcon Heights Parks and Recreation Commission
Meeting Date: 11/8/93
Agenda Item: D - 1
CITY OF FALCON HEIGHTS
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
ITEM DESCRIPTION: University Grove Park Improvement Project
SUBMITTED BY: Carol Kriegler, Park & Rec Director
REVIEWED BY:
EXPLANATION/SUMMARY:
Carol Kriegler will give a brief report on the progress to date
of scheduled improvements for Grove Park.
. ~ Meeting Date: 11/8/93
Agenda Item: D - 2
CITY OF FALCON HEIGHTS
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
ITEM DESCRIPTION: Community Park Prairie Planting Update
SUBMITTED BY: Carol Kriegler, Park & Rec Director
REVIEWED BY:
EXPLANATION/SUMMARY:
Carol Kriegler and Jyneen Thatcher will give a brief report on
the progress to date on the prairie landscape project. Eagle
scout candidate Brian Malzer and other volunteers planted over
2,000 prairie seedlings in the disturbed areas around the
wetland at the Community Park on Saturday, October 30, just
after the county completed seeding the area. The remaining
prairie work will be completed in the spring.
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Agenda Item: D - 3
CITY OF FALCON HEIGHTS
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
ITEM DESCRIPTION: City park facility rental fee schedule and
policy
SUBMITTED BY: Carol Kriegler, Park & Rec Director
REVIEWED BY:
EXPLANATION/SUMMARY:
It has been suggested that the Park and Recreation Commission
review the existing fee schedule and policy for the rental of
park facilities. There is some question whether the existing
policies adequately accommodate and encourage use by
"unofficial" community organizations. Examples of such groups
might be block parties, neighborhood play groups, school class
gatherings, etc.
The issue was initially addressed at the October commission
meeting when it was questioned whether it was timely to
implement such a policy given the apparent high incidence of
inappropriate behavior and use at Curtiss Field. Much
discussion then took place concerning what measures could take
place to increase park surveillance and rule enforcement. City
staff, Roseville police, the Job Corps and Nancy Wickem have
since met in an effort to address these issues. Discussion will
take place concerning progress to date.
It might now be appropriate to re-address the rental fee policy
so that it could be implemented at the Community Park in the
near future and at Curtiss Field at a later time.
1. Park Facilities
5-4.01
a. Seasonal Use, Field Rental (one day/wee]c) --
Fee Item ~
$100.00 Community Park (includes access to
bathrooms
50.00 Curtiss Field
50.00 University Grove
b. Occasional Use (field rental each time)
Fee Item
20.00 w/bathroom $10.00 no. b.r. (Comm. Park)
15.00 w/bathroom 10.00 no b.r. (Curtiss Field)
15.00 for University Grove park
2. Park Buildings
a. Community Park
Fee Item
$50.00 per shift or portion of a shift (two rental
shifts available daily. (8 A.M. to 3 P.M. and
4 P.M. to 10 P.M.) plus any set-up cost if
set up is requested.
30.00 for two hours or less when building use is
limited to multi-purpose space (kitchen use
is limited to coffee pot and/or refrigerator)
b. Curtiss Field Building
Fee
$20.00
1. Deposit
Fee
$100.00 deposit required for any use
when a key to the building is
requested
c. City Hall Facilities
Fee
$30
$20
$35
$5
$25
/first 2 hours
each additional hour
set up
kitchen
conference room
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E. Facility Use by Municipal or Public Service "
Organizations
' Public use of public facilities is permitted on a
reservation basis. Public service organizations such
as the following shall be allowed free use of public
facilities:
League of Women Voters
Senior Citizens
Ramsey County League of Local Governments
League of MN Cities/AMM
Watershed Management Organizations
Scouts, Brownie Troops
4-H
Neighborhood Groups (such as Grove Assoc., etc.)
55 Alive Mature Driving Class
Cable Commission
Developers when presenting to neighbors/residents
Legislators (town hall meetings, etc.)
Youth Service Bureau
Roseville Area Schools will be charged their own
prevailing rates for use of city facilities.