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PLANNING CO~~IISSION MEETING
March 29, 1982
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:05 P.M. by Chairman
Al Stefanson.
Stefanson, Olson, Bourquin, Nilsen, Labalestra, Wallin, Mead and Waldo. PRESENT
Also present were Council Liaison Larson, Attorney Swanson, Engineer
Lemberg and Planner Dale.
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ABSENT
Harold ~`estin of Harold 14~estin and Associates, presented a preliminary HAROLD 1~'ESTI~T
plat for Block 1, Lots 1 thru 6 inclusive and Block 2, Lots 1 thru 6
inclusive, Bernwood Addition I, City of Falcon Heights, Minnesota.
American Shelter has foreseen the need for architecturally coordinated,
carefully engineered, affordable, comfortable, energy-efficient housing
at this site, which is favorably located to educational, commercial,
business, and shopping centers, and transportation. They believe that
these goals--good design, good maintenance, a good neighborhood, can
be best implemented by an organized team to assure coordination of the
project. To that end, they have invested large sums to acquire the
rights to the land; and to develop the technological approach to make
• this site an appropriate, viable, and contributing asset to the community
and its citizens.
Mr. Vestin feels they have worked and paid the price for seven months
of balancing the constraints of the site, the limitations of the market
place, the long range goals of the city, and tha best homes of the home
owners nearest to the project. In their early solutions for storm water
control and appropriate uses of the site, they felt that zoning changes
incorporated in a Planned Unit Development would be the best method.
That approach did have substantial support in the Planning Commission
and the City Council; but reservations were expressed about changing
the original R-1 zoning. Therefore, this plat reauest has been prepared
to comply with the requirements of R-1 zoning under City Ordinance #6!t
considering the following factors: Variances are anticipated under
Section 16.l~ in lot width and from the 10,000 square footage requirement
Lot Width Square Footage
Block 1, Lot 1 68.5 ft. 8220
Lot 2 68.5 8220
Lot 3 68.5 8220
Lot ~ 68.5 8220
Lot 5 65.6 8220
Lot 6 82.0 980
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Block 2, Lot 1
Lot Width Square Footage
82.0 6840
b8.5 8220
68.5 8?_20
66.0 8700
50.0 10,450
51.0 10,100
HAROLD WESTIN
(continued)
The purpose of the variance requested in the 75 foot lot widths is to
even out the lateral dimensions to allow twelve full lots--a reduction
of 6-1~2 feet, approximately. The savings in principal and interest
for each lot in the block would total several thousand dollars. The
variance requested in square footage would result in a savings of 20
percent and more in land and utilities. These savings will be dot,bled
in the life of the mortgage by interest saved, making good housing more
affordable.
Mr. Westin did a comparative density study which showed densities in
the Bernwood Addition to be 3.77 D.U. acre compared to densities in
Falcon ZRTOOds of 3.18 D.U. acre, ZNest side of Tatum of 4.76 D.U.~acre
and South of Larpenteur between Arona and Hamline to be 5.68 D.U./acre.
• Other factors for consideration o.f the site are storm water--existing storm
water flows from Falcon Woods will be accommodated in drainage easements on
the north, east and west boundaries of the proposed plat and normal storm
water flow from this project will be stored and percolated on site with
overflows drained to percolation areas on the south property of American
Shelter Corporation; traffic--the traffic generated by 12 single family
homes may either be carried to the north as contemplated by the existing
plat for Prior Avenue or a f uture possibility may be to close that access
and route all future traffic through a development south to Larpenteur;
utilities--the subdivision is in an area previously planned for a
connection with the uncompleted water system loop in Falcon Woods and
this subdivision would complete the loop to the advantage of both
communities f'or fire safety and uninterrupted domestic water suably;
and esthetics--the single family houses will be architectually designed
and coordinated to complement the overall site development and will use
advanced technology in site orientation, insulation, and solar energy
efficiency appropriate to the requirements for housing into the 21st
Century.
Therefore, Mr. l~~~estin requests approval of the preliminary plan and
favorable recommendation to the City Council. Mr. Westin also makes
reference to an article which appeared in the Sunday Parade magazine
dated March 28th, which indicates that the American dream of single
family housing has vanished because of high interest rates, soaring
costs for land, materials and energy. The wave of the future is for
• planned unit developments with smaller houses on smaller lots.
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• Planner Carl Dale indicated that the plat as proposed is probably
not going to cause a great deal of public harm but it will not be
in the best interests of the citizens of Falcon Heights. Mr. Dale
made the following recommendations: (1) require the developer to
construct a temporary turnaround on the west end of Ruggles Street;
(2) retain some kind of control over future closing of Prior simply
by having the respective attorneys write an easement to close the
street; (3) he agrees with the neighbors that there should be an
overall plan for the Hawkins-Hermes property; and (!~) cash flow--
be sure the people intend to build on the property. He feels that
the Planning Commission should start with a standard plat for the
entire area and one way would be to use section 14.6. If the
property is platted piece-meal, single family housing is proper
for this area providing the drainage problems are addressed. He
again stated it is important to set up some standards and guidelines
and meet with the neighbors to accomplish them.
Harold Nilsen makes reference to a statement made at the University
of Minnesota whereby 95 percent of the people in the r'uture will not
be able to afford single family housing.
Labalestra states that he feels that PUD is the best way to develop
the property so that the City has total control.
Brad Lemberg pointed out that negotiations are in the final stages
• with the University of Minnesota for an access to Cleveland. If the
preliminary plat were approved tonight, Ruggles Street would not be
able to be connected because of the curvatures needed would be
impossible for auto traffic. Therefore, the street would have to
be realigned to make the connection. He felt since the University
is so close to approving the access, it would not be in the best
interests of the City to change where the access across University
property should be located. Mr. Lemberg also stated that the sewer
capacity for this preliminary plat would be adequate.
CARL DALE
CITY PLANNER
HAROLD NILSEN
JOHN LABALESTRA
BRAD LEMBERG
CITY ENGINEER
Attorney Swanson questions Harold V~estin regarding the procedure for S~~rANSON
applying for approval of the preliminary plat. Is it being correctly CITY ATTORNEY
requested under section 16.l~? Jir. V'destin replies that if some other
method should be used for approval, he is willing to change it in
any way in order to obtain approval of the preliminary plat for the
Bernwood Addition.
t~ir. Dale again made recommendations for t he preliminary plat and made CARL DALE
reference to the points explained above.
Larry Stowe, representing the Neighborhood Task Force, feels they LARRY STOV9E,
have had to be on the defense because of the nature of the plans; NEIGHBORHOOD
makes reference to their March 22nd letter previously submitted; TASK FORCE
urges the Planning Commission to confer with the Neighborhood Task
Force to establish criteria; and feels that the present preliminary
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• plat requested by American Shelter is apiece-meal proposal of the LARRY STOWS
PUD that was already rejected. He felt a olan should be developed CONTD.
that will indicate what is going to be done with the rest of the
Hawkins-Hermes property to the south, does not agree with the
variances requested to reduce lot sire as it will be a variation
from the existing neighborhood; questions Mr. Westin's figures on
density and traffic, and requests the Planning Commission to think
about the whole picture of what is going to be done with the property
instead of approving plans piece-meal.
Erma Olson asks Larry Stowe if the Neighborhood Task Force has established
their criteria. Mr. Stowe indicated that they were in the process of ERMA OLSON~
assembly and it would be accomplished in a short period of time. Erma LARRY STOV6E
specifically asks if the Neighborhood Task Force has arrived at a
density figure that would be acceptable and NIr. Stowe answers that th ey
have not at this time reached a conclusion. Olson asks Stowe if he
felt that a lot with a square footage of under 10,000 was substandard
and points out that the development of lots between Hamline and Snelling
south of Larpenteur were developed without 10,000 square footage.
Don Swendra, American Shelter Corporation, indicated that Ruggles Street DON SV`~ENDRA
was aligned with information furnished by Dev+ran Barnes. He 1~~as not AMERICAN SHELTER
told about the pending access across University property and that CORPORATION
Ruggles Street should be connected with it.
• Erma Olson asks whether the Neighborhood Task Force would be able to ERMA OLSON
compile their standards a nd guidelines within the next few days. She
takes issue with the fact that the Planning Commission did not establish
their own guidelines and criteria before starting the project.
Jim Bourquin offered and John Labalestra seconded a motion approving MOTION APPROVING
in principal a plat by a subdivision that meets the square footage PLAT
area and all other appropriate areas of the code under current zoning,
which will be achieved by realigning Ruggles Street to properly connect
with the proposed road through the city park.
Following a discussion, the following voted in favor of the foregoing
motion: Olson, Bourquin, Nilsen, Labalestra, Stefanson, u'~'allin, Mead,
and ~:~aldo, and voting against the same: None. Motion carried.
Larry Stowe was requested by the planning Commission to submit their
criteria by April 8.
Nilsen moved, seconded by Labalestra, that the meeting be adjourned
at 9:~5 P.M. Motion carried unamiously.
ry 1a in, Secretary
SUBMIT CRITERIA
BY APRIL 8
ADJOURN