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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 4, 1985
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by
Vice-Chairman Erma Olson.
Olson, Grittner, Northrop, Black, Finegary Trent-Sullivan, Mead and
Wallin. Also present was Council Liaison Hard.
Stefanson.
Finegan moved, seconded by Wallin, that the Minutes of October 7, 1985,
be approved as presented. Motion carried unanimously.
PRESENT
ABSENT
OCTOBER 7, 1985
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APPROVED
Paul Baehr, 1746 Holton Street North, requested a variance to place a
driveway to the south property line. Mr. Baehr described the present PAUL BAEHR,
conditions of his driveway and advised of the increase in cost if he were 1746 HOLTON
required to move the driveway to the north. He saw no problem with snow VARIANCE
%removal as presently he blows his snow north and would continue to do so. APPROVED
~~ Mr. Baehr advised that his neighbor to the south was granted a variance to
one foot of the property line so he was asking for the same consideration.
It would be extremely difficult to enter or exit. his garage without the
variance.
• Discussion ensued on the location of the utility pole and Mr. Baehr
advised that the pole is located in the middle of the five foot setback.
Mr. Baehr felt the pole should be properly located eight to ten feet
north so that the pole would not have to be relocated again. Wallin
! stated that the location of a utility pole on public property on city
~ right of way is not a Planning Commission issue. Mr. Baehr advised
that he was not consulted about the location of the utility pole.
Mead moved to approve the variance for driveway placement of one foot
north from the south property line. Wallin seconded the motion. Black
offered an amendment to the motion to include the relocation of the
utility pole. Mead accepted the amendment but Wallin did not because
he felt the issue was whether or not the variance should be granted and
Chairman Al Stefanson arrived to Chair rest of meeting. STEFANSON
ARRIVES
John Brietinger, Coldwell Banker, requested a parking variance on behalf
• of Bullseye Golf, Inc. He reviewed his October 24, 1985 letter and PARKING
advised that it was his goal to obtain a group of tenants who would VARIANCE
complement each other in terms of the kind of traffic that they bring AT BULLSEYE
and also in terms of the load. He also reviewed the kinds of services PLAZA
to go beyond that deals with public property and it is not an issue
before the Planning Commission. Mead then reworded the motion,
seconded by Wallin, to state that the variance will be granted as
requested with the limitation that the driveway be placed no closer
than one foot from the property line and it will be Mr. Baehr's
responsibility to formulate a plan for the utility pole relocation.
Motion carried unanimously.
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• being offered by the tenants in the Bullseye Plaza building.. Wallin PARKING
questioned the proportionate size of the square footage allocated to VARIANCE AT
Bullseye compared to the number of parking stalls required by the code BULLSEYE
as well as the space allocated as restaurant. Breitinger agreed that PLAZA
it appeared to be disproportionate. Black asked if any changes would DISCUSSION
be made by MN DOT to allow more parking on the boulevard area on the (contd.)
west to which Mr. Breitinger answered that he was not aware of any changes
but the parking shown on the diagram as presented is there, which totals
112 stalls on the Bullseye property not including the portion around the
Embers Restaurant. Tenants will be required to use the parking situated
on the old liquor store site. The proposed restaurant advised that the
hours will be from 11:00 A.M. to 10:00 P.M. with. peak hours being from
7:00 to 8:00 P.M.
Finegan stated that parking is probably on the edge of what can be handled
in view of the utilization of Bullseye of the downstairs activities, which
might considerably increase the traffic and is quite concerned whether it
will all fit. Olson requested information on what type of activities are
taking place in the basement area of which Mr. Bretinger advised he was not
aware of any activities. Mead advised that the basement area was to be
used only for storage as originally proposed. Wallin stated that the parking
issue was thoroughly discussed before construction was authorized, and felt
that to come in at this time based on uses when the square footage has not
changed is a little over-reaching on the owner of the Bullseye Plaza building.
In fact, the very type of things they are asking for are easily forseeable
• and should have come .out at that time. Therefore, he is opposed to expanding
the parking situation with additional variances on what he saw as a piece-
meal almost planned basis. Stefanson felt the problem that arose is what
the area in the basement is being used for and the additional parking that
will be required so if a package is going to be presented for variance
approval in total, the package would have to consider what the basement
area is being used for. Therefore, he could not consider approval until
that matter is cleared up. Mr. Breitinger asked if approval could be
contingent upon bringing the basement into conformation. Stefanson felt
that Bullseye should be up front and advise what activities are .taking
place in the basement area and it should be all one package when presented
for approval. Black and Mead agreed that the basement issue needs to be
resolved. Wallin advised that he could not vote on the variance as presented
this evening as the Planning Commission need not be pushed into voting on
the variance out of a necessity situation when Bullseye has created the
problem on their own. Even if the basement useage were eliminated, he
felt he still would be opposed to the variance since there was a variance
already granted for the project.
After a considerable amount of discussion regarding the parking variance,
the Planning. Commission suggested that Mr. Breitinger attend the next
City Council meeting scheduled for November 13 and be prepared to address
two issues: (1) the variance for parking was not resolved earlier so if
there is an expressed reservation to readdress the issue of parking stalls
in the event a restaurant is in fact going to locate in the end of the
• building, be able to show the Council that "it is a door that is not locked
but has been left open", and (2) be in a position to show that Bullseye Golf
will live within the restrictions of the variances that they have asked for
in the past. The intensified use in the basement is not what they agreed
to abide by in the past.
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BULLSEYE PARKING
Finegan moved, seconded by Olson, that the variance request be tabled. VARIANCE TABLED
Motion carried unanimously.
Stefanson directed Mr. John Brietinger, to bring in whatever information
he wanted put on the Council agenda by Friday, November 8, 1985, so
that it is scheduled for November 13, 1985 meeting.
Wallin moved, seconded by Olson to adjourn the meeting at 9:00 P.M. ADJOURNMENT
Motion carried unanimously.
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