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MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING/PUBLIC HEARING
PLANNING COMMISSION
AUGUST 4, 1986
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:35 P.M. by Chairman Black.
Black, Northrop, Trent-Sullivan, Daykin, Boche and Finegan. Also present PRESENT
was Council Liaison Hard.
ABSENT
Grittner, Mead and Duncan.
Trent Sullivan moved, seconded by Daykin, to approve the July 7, 1986 JULY 7, 198
Planning Commission Minutes as presented. Motion carried unanimously. MINUTES
APPROVED
Cleon Garley, owner of the apartment building at 1845-1855 West Larpenteur,
presented a subdivision request to allow for additional parking. Mr. Garley CLEON
requested the subdivision of the Easterly 80 feet of Lot 3, Block 1 of the GARLEY,
Lindig Third Addition. (Note: There was an increase in the footage requested 1845-1855
from the previous Planning Commission meeting from 60 feet to 80 feet.) WEST
Mr. Garley presented a survey of the lot in question and plot plans. Mr. LARPENTEUR
Forrest Asher, the Manager of the apartment buildings in question was also
present. Garley advised that previous to his purchase of the buildin SUBDIVISION
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which was in November, 1985, there had been parking allowed along the drive-
way as well as parking diagonally in the middle of the parking lot. Since,
the Falcon Heights Fire Department has disallowed parking in these areas.
This has caused parking problems for his tenants as there are 42 parking
stalls for 34 units. There are 17 units in each building with six units having
a single bedroom and 11 units having two bedrooms. The units are rented to
University students on the whole. Due to tenants getting tickets during the
winter months and during the state fair, Garley requested the subdivision to
add sixteen additional stalls to his parking lot. He would have to remove
two existing garage stalls to provide an entrance to the additional parking
lot. There is no parking on Fairview with two hour parking allowed on Larpenteur
Avenue between the hours of 8:00 A.M. to 4:30 P.M. Also snow emergencies cause
problems for tenants. Garley also proposed four parking stalls along Fairview.
Black question whether anything had been put in the lease agreement regarding BLACK/
the number of cars a tenant could have to which Garley replied that nothing TRENT-
of that nature was written into the lease. Tenants have six months leases SULLIVAN
and after six months the lease runs on a monthly basis. Trent-Sullivan asked
if there was any visitor parking to which Garley replied that there was no
visitor parking and tenants are not assigned stalls as they are on a first
come first serve basis.
Boche requested information on the properties surrounding the apartment BOCHE
building and was informed that most of the property was R-1 property.
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A question arose regarding drainage and Hard advised that the water drains HARD
from northwest to southeast. There is also a ditch along Larpenteur and
Fairview. Garley proposed a swale be located in the five foot setback and
advised that he would grade the new parking area so that the water. would
drain to the present parking area. He would be willing to work with the
City Engineer to accomplish what drainage is necessary.
The meeting was then recessed for fifteen minutes during which time Council- COUNCIL
member Hard advised that a letter had been received from the school district INFORMATIO:
advising that there would be no need for portable classrooms, the Early
Childhood and Family Education program had been moved to Fairview and the
Extended Day program will be housed at Falcon Heights School; updated the
Planning Commission on the Snelling/Larpenteur redevelopment; reviewed the
hold-up in construction of the office building on Larpenteur and Prior;
advised that the office condos located north of City Hall--two had been
sold and another in the process of being closed; 1666 Coffman will be fully
occupied by mid-October and the Home Occupation Ordinance was passed by the
City Council.
Chairman Black then called the Public Hearing on the Rezoning Request REZONING
from Cleon Garley, owner of the apartment building at 1845-1855 West REQUEST
Larpenteur, to order at 8:15 P.M. Notice of this hearing has been published FROM
in the official newspaper and mailed notice given to all property owners within CLEON
• 350 feet. The rezoning request is to change the property in question from R-1 to R-4.
GARLEY,
Chairman Black reviewed the background information given previously at this 1845-1855
meeting and Cleon Garley reviewed the information. WEST
LARPENTEUR
Betty Sommers, 1701 North Fairview Avenue, advised that the apartment building
was a miserable neighbor as they were noisy, had a lot of gas fumes and had BETTY
trouble with the garbage. They use the ten foot buffer for bike and motorcycle SOMMERS
parking. She felt the rezoning would ruin her property and increase the number 1701 NORTH
of burglaries in the area. FAIRVIEW
Mrs. Martha Sommers, 1701 North Fairview Avenue, was very opposed to having
automobiles surrounding her home as they were not good neighbors and very
noisy.
Malcom Sugdem, 1718 Lindig, purchased his lot in 1967 when all of the area was
then zoned R-1 and. wants that protected. He purchased his property because
of the size of the lot. He felt the rezoning would not be desirable in an
R-1 district because it would decrease property values, create noise and cause
problems with surface run-off. The problems encountered with parking by the
apartment owner should not have to be solved by the single family homeowners.
Allan J. Kraemer, 1707 North Fairview Avenue, was of the understanding that
when the building permit was granted that they were alloted 1-1/2 spaces
for each unit and they would not ask for any increased parking. Also, the
• letter mailed to residents stated the subdivision was for 60 feet not 80 feet.
Mr. Kraemer stated that the two buildings are an inefficient use of the land
they occupy. If approval of the subdivision and rezoning are given, it opens
the door for future apartment expansion. He is against the rezoning because
MARTHA
S OMMERS ,
1701 NORTH
FAIRVIEW
MALCOM
SUGDEM,
1718 LINDI(
ALLAN J.
KRAEMER,
1707 NORTH
FAIRVIEW
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of the devaluation it will bring to his property and the noise.
Jim Bleeker, 1715 Lindig, is a new resident and he is opposed to the rezoning
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ue to increased pollution and decreased values
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Carol Kraemer, read into the record a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Roger Scher
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1717 Fairview Avenue North. A copy will be on file in the office of the MR & MRS
Clerk Administrator. The are o
y pposed due to the noise, lights flashing ROGER
through their backyards, loss of privacy, run-off and the present parking SCHER
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lot being an eyesore. NORTH
FAIRVIEW
Mrs. Joe Bianchi, 1725 North Fairview Avenue, advised that she has lived at
her present residence for thirty years and wished to keep the area as it JOE BIANCH]
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presently exists. He agreed with the statements made by the Schers' RTH
. FAIRVIEW
Irene McGregor, 1795 North Fairview Avenue, advised that she has lived at IRENE
this residence since 1948 and wishes to keep the neighborhood as it presently MC GREGOR
exists. She was very concerned about the drainage and the need for a storm 1795 NORTH
sewer.
FAIRVIEW
D. W. French, 1728 Lindig, was very opposed to the rezoning as he purchased
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roperty because he liked the area and wishes to keep the setting as it 1728 LINDIG
is. The rezoning will detract from the value of his property.
• Steven Michael, 1711 Lindig, advised that the natural watershed runs from STEVEN
Larpenteur to the north. There will be problems with runoff and is concerned
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out the salt and car oil and grease that will affect the water. He advised
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more people occupy the apartment than are necessary and that the apartments
are very unkept.
Chairman Black read Mr. Ralph Gullickson's letter dated August 4, 1986, into RALPH
the record. A copy will be on file in the office of the Clerk Administrator. GULLICKSON
Gullickson is opposed to the rezoning due to the noise created, market values LETTER
decreasing, the parking lot will be an unsightly barrier in backyards and
spring runoff of melting snow polluted with salt from cars will get into his
garden.
Garley advised that he is in need of more parking and felt this was the best GARLEY
alternative. He is willing to put of a fence and is willing to work with
the City Engineer to work out drainage problems.
Finegan questions whether it would be feasible to limit the number of cars for FINEGAN
each rental unit written into their lease to which Garley replied that even
so there is just not enough parking for each unit to have two cars.
Daykin questioned the number of people living in each unit and if the units DAYKIN
were leased by the unit or by the number of people. Ascher replied that the
units are leased by unit not by the number of people living therein.
• Discussion ensued regarding the 60 foot or 80 foot request. Chairman Black BLACK
directed that the Commission Members act on the 60 foot request as that was
the figure used in letters mailed to residents.
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Art Lindig, 1875 Larpenteur Avenue West, pointed out that the back of the
lots in question do not run even.
Chairman Black closed the Public Hearing at 9:00 P.M.
Finegan agreed with Garley that he is in need of more parking and he is
trying to make an honest attempt to solve the problem but yet is swayed
by the problems the residents will encounter. He is opposed to the rezoning
change because it would be a dis-service to the area.
Northrop agreed that it will have a substantial impact on the individual
property owners. Garley needs the additional parking but feels that all
the creative ideas have not been explored that will provide that parking
without infringing on the neighborhood. Mr. Garley is the new owner of the
building and should not be blamed for previous problems but the inoperative
automobiles located in the parking lot should be dealt with. She was also
puzzled by statements made regarding the number of tenants in a unit.
She suggested Garley work with the City Planner to formulate a plan.
Daykin moved, seconded by Finegan, to consider the subdivision request.
After a discussion, it was deemed the motion to consider the request not
needed and Chairman Black ruled the motion out of order.
• Trent-Sullivan was opposed to the rezoning request and felt that the values
of the properties will decrease and the parking lot being put in an R-1
district is not an appropriate use of the property.
Boche moved, seconded by Trent-Sullivan to deny the subdivision request.
Black agreed that the Garley property does need additional parking but is
not convinced that the owner and manager had done everything they can to
limit the number of cars somehow in the lease arrangements. If the
subdivision and rezoning were approved, Black was not sure it would solve
the problem totally as it still did not provide enough parking. Felt
other solutions should be investigated.
A vote was then taken on the motion and it was approved unanimously to
deny the subdivision request.
Rezoning then became a moot point.
Finegan moved, seconded by Trent-Sullivan to adjourn the meeting at 9:20 P.M.
Edgar negan, Secre y
ART LINDIG,
1875 WEST
LARPENTEUR
PUBLIC
HEARING
CLOSED
FINEGAN
NORTHROP
MOTION TO
CONSIDER
SUBDIVISION
OUT OF ORDE
TRENT-
SULLIVAN
SUBDIVISION
REQUEST
DENIED
BLACK
REZONING
REQUEST
MOOT
ADJOURNMENT