05-13-2004 Planning Comm. Agenda

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MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 8, 2004 I{eis asked about the proposed holding pond. Howe reported that he is working with the City Engineer to determine if the holding pond can be eliminated and the pond utilized that is at the west end of Yorkton. The Engineer is currently determining whether or not the pipe is big enough to carry the storm water from the Hidden Acres proposed development. Duray asked what the benefit would be to eliminating the pond. Howe reported that some of the neighbors have expressed concern that the pond would be an attractive nuisance for the children in the neighborhood. If the pond can be eliminated, it will be. Howe noted, however, that the number of proposed lots would remain the same. Barraclough noted that there appears to be only 6 inches of grade differential from the back of the lots to the front. Howe reported that that is correct. He noted that originally a swale was proposed at the back of the lots. Given the neighborhood's desire to save trees, the swale has been eliminated. I{eis noted the poor condition of Condit Street and asked the City's plans to upgrade the street. The Deputy Clerk indicated that the City is planning a future improvement of Condit Street. However, additional street right- of-way will have to be acquired as part of a road improvement project for Condit. The City Planner pointed out that both Burke Lane and Yorkton Ridge are non-conforming in that they exceed the maximum length allowed for a cul-de-sac street. The Planner pointed out the public safety issues that exist with Burke Lane and Yorkton Ridge in the event that access into one of these streets is blocked. The Planner noted that when Yorkton Ridge was constructed, a stub was installed showing the future looping of the streets in the area. He explained that the City looks for two ways in and out of a neighborhood to ensure ease of access for emergency vehicles. The Hidden Acres plat would connect Burke Lane and Yorkton Ridge and provide a second access to each neighborhood. Linda Lucas, Yorkton Ridge, reported that she was opposed to the road layout as proposed in the Hidden Acres plat. She noted that there are 28 children living on Yorkton Ridge and there is no place for these children to play other than in the street. There are not parks, playgrounds, or walking paths in the neighborhood. Lucas noted that there is a path on the Water Works property, but Yorkton Ridge does not have access to that path. Lucas felt that the added traffic from the 11 homes that are proposed will be a safety issue for the Yorkton Ridge neighborhood. She also felt that the proposed pond would be an attractive nuisance, especially since the children in the neighborhood have no place to play. Lucas felt that the -4-