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MINUTES <br />CITY COUNCIL <br />JULY 129 2023 <br />parking lot, and often on weekends there are over 70 people in there partying. He stated that the <br />Hookah Hideout also does not accept credit cards and only accepts cash. He did not believe the <br />business was a smoke shop and is instead a nightclub/speakeasy that is operating under a smoke shop <br />license. He commented that this is a safety concern. He commented that there are so many people in <br />that business that the bathroom cannot be used by everyone, and people are urinating and defecating in <br />the parking lot or back of the building. He stated that he has not seen the owner, David Nelson, at the <br />shop in over four years, and believed that the business is often being run by whoever has the most <br />money to rent it at that time. He stated that as a cigarette business, he has relationships with the <br />distributors, and no one is delivering to Hookah Hideout because they are not purchasing tobacco <br />products. <br />The City Attorney asked when his business closes and when the liquor bottles are noticed. <br />Mr. DeRosa replied that his business is open until 11 p.m. and commented that he is unsure if the <br />bottles are in the parking lot at that time because of the large number of vehicles. He stated that he has <br />observed people sitting on their vehicles, pouring alcohol into their cups to go into Hookah Hideout. <br />He noted that the employee of the previous speaker picks up liquor bottles from the parking lot and <br />resells them on Craigslist because there are so many. He stated that the Hookah Hideout is not a <br />smoke shop and the activity there is illegal. <br />The City Attorney asked if any other businesses in the mall are open after 11 p.m. Mr. DeRosa. <br />commented that no other businesses are open past that time with the exception of Hookah Hideout. <br />The City Attorney asked the operating hours for the other businesses in the mall. Mr. DeRosa <br />commented that the business that closes before him is the pizza establishment, which closes at 10 p.m. <br />He stated that when he closes at 11 p.m., the parking lot for the mall is packed full until 2 or 3 a.m. <br />The City Attorney asked if the parking lot is packed all day. He asked for an estimate of the number of <br />vehicles in the parking lot during the day and in the evening. Mr. DeRosa commented that when he <br />opens there are under 20 vehicles in the parking lot for all the businesses, noting that the Hookah <br />Hideout does not open until 11 a.m. He stated that at 6 p.m. the lot for Hookah Hideout is full and <br />spilling into his parking area. He commented that everyone from those vehicles is going into Hookah <br />Hideout. <br />David Nelson, owner of Hookah Hideout, stated that he is present to answer questions. Mayor Fischer <br />asked if Mr. Nelson is operating the day-to-day operation onsite. Mr. Nelson replied that he is, noting <br />that he is not onsite every day, but is there twice a week to place orders and process payroll. He stated <br />that he does delegate other duties to employees as he owns other businesses as well. <br />T. Miller asked why the employees would not recognize his name when asked. Mr. Nelson replied that <br />there is a high turnover for employees and there have been occasions when he allows other employees <br />to handle hiring and terminating of employees. <br />T. Miller asked the number of times staff has inquired about Mr. Nelson. The City Clerk replied that <br />she has visited the business herself twice and the employees did not know who David Nelson was. She <br />
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