HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-27-81 Council MinutesMINUTES OF TNE REGULAR MEETING
CITY COUNCIL
LITTLE CANADA, MINNESOTA
May 27, 1981
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof a regular meeting of the
Council of the City of Little Canada, Minnesota was held on the
?.7th day of May, 1981 in the Council Chambers of the City Center
located at 515 Little Canada Road in said City.
The Mayor, Mr. Raymond Nanson, chaired and called the meeting to
order at 7:35 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Mr. Raymond Hanson
Councilman Mr. Michael fahey
Councilman Mr, Dennis Forsberg
Councilwoman Mrs. Mugs Nardini
Councilwoman Mrs. Beverly Scalze
ALSO PRESENT: City Clerk Mr. Joseph Chlebeck
City Attorney Mr. Clayton Parks
Consulting Engineer Mr. Donald Carley (arrived 9:00)
City Planner Mr. Brad Nielson
Recording Secretary Mrs. Kathleen Glanzer
Approval Mr. Fahey introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
Of The
Minutes RESOLUTION N0. 81-5-253 - APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE
MAY 13, 1981 REGULAR COUMCIL MEETING
The foregoing reso1ution was duly seconded by Mrs. Nardini,
qyes (5) Fahey, Plardini, Scalze, Flanson, Forsberg.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted,
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 187.
Glasrud Mayor Hanson informed the Counci1 that he has reviewed the City's
Utility mailing procedures with regard to utility statements. Hanson stated
Statement that the City is giving adequate notice on the statements.
The City Clerk also informed the Council that it is his opinion that
the City has not been compounding the penalty charge on utility
statements.
Mr. hiol7and, representing Ted.Glasrud & Associates, stated that he
knows of three cases where the penalty on the Glasrud utility statement
was compounded.
The City Clerk submitted to the Council a breakdown of the Glasrud
Utility statements for the years 1979 and 1980, Mr. Fahey pointed out
that in most cases Glasrud & Associates was using City money for great
periods of time.
Mr: Hol1and informed the Council that his concern is the amount of the
penalty the City is charging. The City charges a 1-0% penalty per month
on late utility statements. Mr. Flolland feels the penalty should be
changed to 1~% per year.
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The City Clerk reported that the City's utility statements are mailed
on the 75th of each month and are due the 15th of the fol1owing month.
It is 10 days after the 15th of the month in which the statements are
due that the City actually charges the penalty.
Mr. Holland reported that Glasrud & Associates receives the statements
shortly after checks are issued, and therefore, does not process the
statements until ~he 15th of the following month in which they are
received.
Mayor Hanson po~nted out that in severa7 instances the statements are
over 60 days late.
Mr. Holland again expressed concern that the City was compounding the
penalty charge. Mr. Holland stated that this compounding of the penalty
is considered an 9nterest charge.
Councilman Fahey stated that he felt the City should not be charging a
penalty on top of a penalty. However, Fahey would not change the 10%
penalty charge the City is currently charging on late utility statements.
Fahey suggested that Mr. Holland get together with the City Clerk to
determine in which instances the City compounded the penalty charge,
and the City should waive those amounts.
The City Clerk po9nted out that in the Fall of 1979 the Council waived
the penalty charge for the Venetian Inn on some utility statements that
were paid within 5 days of the penalty date. This was due to a change in
the billing procedures of the City.
Councilman Fahey agreed that the City should do the same for Ted Glasrud
& Associates on those statements which the Council has before them
tonight, namely for the years 1979 and 1980.
Mr. Fahey introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-5-254 - INSTRUCTING TNE CITY CLERK TO
SIT DOWN WITN A REPRESENTATIVE Of TED GLFlSRUD & FlSSOCIATES
AND GO OVER THEIR UTILITY STATEMENTS AND If ANY OF THESE
STATEMENTS ARE FOUND TO HAVE BEEN PAID WITHIN FIVE DAYS
OF THE PENALTY DATE, THE PENALTY ON THOSE STATEMENTS ShiOULD
BE REFUNDED, AND IF IT IS FOUND THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN
COMPOUNDING A PENALTY CFIARGE ON Fl PENALTY, THOSE AMOUN7S
ARE TO QE REFUNDED, FlND fURTHER INSTRUCTING THE CITY CLERK
THAT IF THERE ARE ANY CHARGES THAT THE CLERK AND TED GLASRUD
& ASSOCIATES CANNOT AGREE ON, THESE ARE TO BE BROUGNT BEFORE
THE COUNCIL FOR REVIEW
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs, Scalze.
Pyes (5) fahey, Scalze, Flanson, Forsberg, Nardini.
Nayes (O).
Resolution declared adopted,
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Pages 1II8 and 189.
P~r. Ho1land informed the Council ~at a utility statement received by
Ted Glasrud & Associates in November of 1978 and paid during 1979
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is a case in which the statement was paid within 5 days of the penalty
tlate. Mr. Holland requested that this penalty charge be considered for
refund.
Mr. Fahey stated that it was the intent of his motion that only the
years 1979 and 1980 be reviewed, and therefore, the November, 1978
statement should not be considered.
City Mr. R~ichard McNamara of the McNamara Insurance Agency appeared before
Insurance the Council. Mr. McNamara reported that the City obtained the Public
Coverage Officials Liability Policy at a cost of $8,279 for a three-year period.
& The There is a$1,000 deductibte on a defense and claim basis. The
Schrier maximum coverage amount is $1,000,000.
Property
Mr. McNamara reported that Councilman Fahey asked him to explore the
wrongful act provision of the policy. Mr. McNamara stated that the
policy covers wrongful acts, but not willful acts. The policy does
not cover punitive damages.
Mr. McNamara further reported that the policy excludes a11 willful
acts and inverse condemnation. Mc~lamara was not sure how the inverse
condemnation provision applies, he assumed it may apply to downzoning
of property. Mr. McNamara contacted some law firms and could not get
an answer to this. The insurance companies he contacted could not
provide an answer either. Mr. McNamara felt it was a point of law
that would have to be decided on in a court.
Mayor Hanson asked if Mr. McNamara contacted the State Insurance Commissioner
on this question. McNamara replied that the Insurance Department will not
give out an opinion on any insurance contract.
The Flttorney stated that in his opinion under inverse condemnation the
property owner could attempt to compel the City to condemn his property,
and this would be excluded from the insurance policy. Attorney Parks
felt that the City is not covered for downzoning damages in this Public
Officials Liability Policy, as there would be so many ctaims of these
types that insurance companies would not offer this type of coverage.
Mr. Fahey stated that it was his fieeling that the C.ity was probably not
covered for downzoning, and, therefore, he was not in favor of the
policy. However, fahey stated he was unclear because of the inverse
condemnation provision. Fahey suggested that the Attorney send a letter
to the insurance company outlining the situation the City has and
request an opinion on whether the poticy would provide coverage.
Mrs. Scalze asked who would determine whether an act was wrongful or
wi11fu1. The Flttorney replied that if the Council di~ something that
was wrongful knowingly, then it is cons~dered a willful act.
However, the Council would not knowingly violate its own ordinances.
The downzoning of property is not necessarily wrongful.
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The Flttorney further stated that the insurance policy would take up the
cost of defense in a downzoning claim. Parks fe7t that a downzoning
claim is probably a gray area and it would not be unti7 the case was
decided in court that it would be determined whether the insurance policy
would provide coverage.
Fahey stated that it would be possible that the City would have coverage
for defense in a downzon~ng case, but not coverage for any damages that
might be awarded.
Parks felt that generally downzoning damages are not covered 6y insurance
companies, or the insurance companies would be out of business. However,
Parks felt that just the coverage for defense costs might be worth the
cost of the po7icy.
Mrs. Nardini asked if just the amount of records within the City pertaining
to the Schrier property including the appraisa1s on the property would put
the City in the position of doing a willful act in any downzoning of this
property.
Fahey replied that willful means the Council would do an illegal act
willfully.
Mrs. Scalze stated that the downzoning of the Schrier property might be
legal, but it could cost the City.
The Attorney stated that in a downzoning it is not always found that the
owner should receive a demunition in value on the property. Courts are
taking the position that the City has more authority to do these types
of things than they have found in the past. Courts are recognizing the
authority of the City to make changes for the good of the whole. If the
City has good reasons for the downzoning, and not just because the
neighbors want it, than there is solid reason for the downzoning. Such
reasons should be perhaps the health or safety of the area or drainage
prob7ems, increased crime and police costs. The City must have actual
data to back up these c1aims.
Mayor Hanson cited the case of the Mosted property and the City's having
to pay $40,000 in damages. The Flttorney replied that in this case the
City took property away from the owner. In a downzoning, the owner would
still have the property to develop, but it could only be developed in a
different fashion. Also the Mosted case went to a jury, and juries
generally sympathize with the property owner.
Mr. McNamara informed the Counci1 that the insurance company has to7~
him that out of 16 cases they have handled on downzonings, the insurance
company won 15 of them and only one is going before the Supreme Court.
The Attorney felt these cases probably involved special use permits or
variances, with downzonings only being a small proportion of the cases.
However, the Attorney felt that the City would prevail in the great
majority of these types of cases.
Mrs. Scalze did not feel the City had documented evidence on a traffic
problem or crime problem in the area of the Schrier property.
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The City Planner pointed out to the Council that if the City choose to
adopt the DMR's shoreland regulations, this could affect the development
of the Schrier property.
Mr. Fahey informed the Council that he requested the subjects of the
Schrier property and the City`s insurance coverage be put on the agenda
as if the Council ~s going to reconsider action on the Schrier property
it shou7d do so at this Counci1 meeting. Otherwise, the Council would
have to hold additional public hearings on the poss9ble downzoning of
the property.
Mr. Forsberg stated that he liked the Schrier proposal with the senior
citizen housing. Forsberg pointed out that he is opposed to additional
apartments in the City, and that he would like to work with Mr. Schrier
on his proposal.
Mr. fahey suggested that perhaps the City should try to work out some
type of an agreement with Mr. Schrier.
Mrs. Nardini stated that Mr. Schrier does not want to enter into an
agreement that will restrict his property. ~lardini felt the Council
always had the option to downzone the property.
Fahey stated that this property is an investment for Mr, Schrier, he
is looking for depreciation and tax shelter, fahey felt Schrier wi11
wait until the time is right, and then he will be in for a building
permit for apartments. Fahey felt that Schrier is interested in
senior citizen housing, but that everything has to fall into place
for this, and if it doesn't the City will be left holding the bag.
Mrs. Scalze pointed out that the neighbors in the area do not want R-2
zoning on the Schrier property, but R-1.
fahey felt it was not good business to take Mr. Schrier's word on the
development of the property, but that the City should try to get a
letter of intent or an agreement from Schrier. Mrs, Scalze suggested
that perhaps the City Attorney should meet with Schrier on this,
Mr. Parks stated that it was his impression at the last meeting on this
subject, that Mr. Schrier did not want the City Attorney and his Attorney
to work out such an agreement, because they do not know what is in his
best interests. Parks felt that Schrier would enter into some type of
agreement with the City. Parks stated that the senior citizen housing
proposal is a two or three year process and no one knows what will
happen with government grants.
Fahey suggested that the agreemerrt contain that Schrier agree not to
apply for a building permit for apartments until he has exhausted the
possibilities on senior citizen housing.
Mrs. Nardini stated that Schrier may ask the City to rezone a portion of
his R-7 property, and this could give the City some trouble. Nardini
stated that she would be happy with a letter of intent from Mre Schrier.
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Mrs. Scalxe stated that it was her feeling that the City presently has
a piece of R-3 property and that senior citizen housing shou7d go on
R-3 property. If the City downzones this property, it may have to pay
damages, and then up-zone the property to get senior citizen housing
on it.
Mrs. Nardini introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTIOM N0, 87-5-255 - INSTRUCTING TNE CITY ATTORNEY
TO CONTACT MR, SCHRIER TO SEE IF THE CITY CAM WORK OUT
FlN AGREEMENT WITFI MR, SCHRIER TO THE SATISFACTION Of
BOTH PARTIES
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr. Forsberg,
Ayes (5) Nardini, Forsberg, Hanson, Sca7ze, Fahey.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Reso7ution 6ook No. 7, Page 189,
Mr. Fahey stated that the agreement should contain that Mr, Schrier wi11
not apply for a bui7ding permit for apartments until he has exhausted
all possibilities for senior citizen housing.
Fahey also stated that it will not be possible to put senior citizen
housing on R-3 property as it is too expensive. It is more feasible
to purchase R-1 property for this purpose and up-zone it.
Fahey also stated that if the Public Officials Liability Policy does not
provide coverage for downzoning, he would like to revoke the policy.
Mr. McNamara stated that this was the broadest contract available in the
country. McNamara felt the taxpayers of Little Canada should protect
the Councilpeople, who are trying to protect them, McNamara stressed
that this policy provides protection for the personal financial situation
of the Councilmembers. Also the Council has saved the City maney on
insurance costs in other areas, which makes up for the cost of this insurance
policy. The City Attorney pointed out that defense costs could run the
City at least $2,500 per day.
Mayor Hanson felt that the policy was not too expensive in view of the
numbers of people it covers. Hanson also felt that the Council shou7d not
have to put its personal financial situations on the line.
The Attorney suggested that he submit a letter to the insurance company
outlining a hypothetical situation and requesting their opinion on whether
the insurance policy wou7d provide coverage.
The Attorney also stated that the Council owed this insurance pro$ection
to themselves. Parks suggested that the Council could do a 6etter job
without the worry of protecting their personal financial situations,
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Mrs. Scalze introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0, 81-5-256 - INSTRUCTING THE CITY A770RNEY
TO WRITE A LETTER TQ THE CITY'S INSURANCE COMPANY OUTLINING
A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION WITH SPECIFICS AND REQUEST THEIR
OPINION AS TO WHETHER THERE WOULD BE INSURANCE COVERFlGE
UNDER THE PUBLIC OFFICIFlLS LIABILITY POLICY
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr. Fahey.
qyes (5) Scalze, Fahey, Hanson, Nardini, Forsberg.
Nayes (0 ) .
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 190.
Shoreland Mrs. Sca1ze suggested that the DNR be asked to make a presentation to
Regu7ations the Council on their shoreland regulations.
Mrs. Scalze introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-5-257 - INSTRUCTING THAT THE DNR BE
REQUESTED TO MFlKE A PRESENTFlTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON
SHORELAND REGULATIONS AT THE JUNE 24, 1981 REGULAR COUPICIL
MEETING
The forego~ng resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Nardini.
Ayes (4•) Scalze, Nardini, Hanson, Fahey.
Nayes (0).
Mr. Forsberg was not present.
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 190.
Krueger Mr. Krueger appeared before the Council requesting a variance so that
Garage he can construct a garage on his property that would 6e located not
Variance less than 19 feet from his property line. Mr. Krueger owns a corner
Request lot and City Code requires that the garage be 30 feet from the property
line. Mr. Krueger has a problem with the location of some ceptic tanks
on his property that would prevent him from not complying with the 30
foot setback requirement.
Mrs. Nardini pointed that the Building Inspector had made an error
and issued Mr. Krueger a building permit for this garage. Nardini felt
the Building Inspector was not aware that this was a corner lot.
P4rs. Scalze stated that Mr. Krueger should submft to the Council a sketch
of where the garage would be located. fahey suggested that the Council
should have a survey of the property.
Mrs. Nardini pointed out that the neighbor's garage is 19 feet from the
property line. Nardini also stated that there was a lot of potential
for the development of this area.
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Mayor Hanson stated that he saw no problem with the request as long as
Mr. Krueger stayed in line with his neighbor`s garage,
Mr. Fahey stated that he did not feel the request met the requirements
of a hardship under the City's ordinance. Fahey also pointed out that
the City is considering the adoption of an ordinance that would allow
a setback to be the average of the City's setback requirement and
that of adjacent properties. This ordinance will be considered at
the June 10 Council meeting, Fahey felt the Krueger request may fall
under this proposed ordinance.
The City Clerk pointed out that this variance request requires a public
hearing. Mrs. Nardini asked if a special use permit could be issued
for this garage. The City Planner stated that it could not as it ~vas
not listed in the City`s ordinance.
The C7erk informed the Council that they could waive the procedures for
a variance request in this case.
The City Planner stated that he was not aware of a waiver provision in
the City's ordinance. The Planner informed the CounciJ that other
communities had a provision to provide for a waiver in the case of minor
variances.
The Planner stated that it was his opinion that it is only fair to give
the neighbors a chance to voice their opinion on these things, However,
there are situations where the public hearing process becomes cumbersome.
Fahey suggested the City call for a public hearing on this request and
in two weeks the Council wi11 be considering the ordinance amendment
regarding the averaging of setbacks, and perhaps the Krueger matter could
be taken care of if this ordinance amendment is adopted.
The Attorney stated that if the Council got a waiver from each of the
propertyowners within 350 feet of the Krueger property, they could dispense
with the public hearing.
Mrs. Sca1ze felt this would not be fair to other people who have made
variance requests. Mrs, Nardini pointed out that the Council held up
Mr. Kath on his variance request.
Mr. forsberg expressed concern that the Council keeps making changes to
the ordinances because of requests such as Mr. Kruegers, Forsberg stated
that because Mr. Kath does not have enough property to build an accessory
building, the Council is going to consider an ordinance amendment on June
10.
Mr. Fahey stated that the 6uilding Inspector should p7ace the Krueger
structure assuming that the Council would adopt the ordinance amendment
it will be considering on June 10.
Mrs. Scalze introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-5-258 - CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARIPlG
AT THE JUNE 24, 1981 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON THE
KRUEGER VARIANCE REQUEST
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The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr. Fahey.
F~yes (5) Scalze, Fahey, Flanson, Forsberg, Nardini.
Nayes (0 ) .
Resolution declared adopted.
This reso1ution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 191.
The Planner asked the Council if he should draft an ordinance amendment
that would deal with manor variance requests.
Mr. Forsberg stated that with all the amendments to the City's ordinances,
the City wi11 end up in the position it was 10 or 15 years ago.
forsberg stated that in the Kath situation the reason his trucks are
out of his building is due to his expansion of his sheetmetal business,
and not because the Fire Department requested this.
Mrs. Nardini also stated that she does not like the ordinance amendment
that the City wi77 be considering on June 10, especially in the case of
residential property.
fahey suggested that the City stick with the ordinance it has now on
variances and follow this one.
Comprehensive
Plan The City Planner reported that the City has received comments from
Metro Council on the City's Comprehensive Plan. The comments were
generally very favora6le. There are some minor inconsistencies that
the Metro Council has brought up.
Metro Council is suggesting that the map showing community parks be revised
to indicate the Grass-Vadnais Lake regional park and the regional snow-
mo6ile trail from Phalen-Ke17er regional park to Keller-Bald Eagle Lake
regional park.
Metro Council next pointed out that there is a discrepancy in the Transporta-
tion P1an between the City and Ramsey County regarding proposed street
classification and traffic volumes. The Planner stated that the City
disputes the classification of Beam Avenue, and shou1d again point this
out to Metro Council and re-emphasize the City's feelings on this.
Fl7so the City should explain its sources for traffic volume and indicate
that it is wil7ing to adjust these figures.
The Metro Counci7 is also requesting some revisions on the City's CIP,
and the Planner indicated that he has these figures and will make the
necessary rev~sions.
Metro Council is requesting a description of the City's ordinance
governing collection and disposal of solid waste. The Planner felt
that providing Metro Council with the Crty's trash hauling ordinance
may take care of this. The Planner stated that he will review this
ordinance and give the City a recommendation on this.
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Mr. Fahey asked what happens if the Metro Council still disagrees with
the City's position on Beam Avenue. The Planner stated that it would
be a negotiating situation. The Planner also pointed out that the City
of Map1ewood agrees with Little Canada's position on Beam Avenue. Mr.
Nielson stated that he did not see any prob1em with this,
Mayor Hanson stated that the City shou1d be concerned with the closing
of the intersection on County Road D and Flighway 61.
The Planner stated that there should not be a problem, considering the
way Litt1e Canada has been cut up in the past.
The Planner also stated that Metro Council will require an update of
the City's sewer plan, and will also be looking at the adoption of the
b1PC-40 Program.
The Planner stated that he will pursue these concerns of Metro Council
and will give the Council a copy of his reply. The Planner indicated
that Metro Counci1 has scheduled the review for June 11. Since the next
Council meeting is June 10, the Planner requested that he be allowed to
submit his reply to Metro Council and inform them that it is subject to
the ap~roval of the Council. The Council can review it on June 10, and
the Planner will call Metro Council on June 11 to indicate whether the
revisions have Council approval.
Mrs. Nardini asked the Planner if the Comprehensive Plan indicated a
bike trail on County Road B-2 between Edgerton and Arcade. The P1anner
indicated that there is a proposed bike trail for this area.
1'he Planner a1so indicated that he has reviewed the Comprehensive Plans
of the City of Vadnais Heights, Roseville and Ramsey County. The P7anner
felt that there was nothing critical to the City of Little Canada in
these plans.
The Comprehensive Plan of the City of Roseville is consistent with Little
Canada's Plan. Little Canada's land use on Rice Street is more intense
than that of Roseville's. The City might want to send a letter noting
this difference.
The Planner stated that in the City of Vadnais Heights apartment development
is handled through conditional use permits. The City does not require
that public hearing notices be sent out on apartment development. The
Planner suggested that Little Canada request that Vadnais Heights inform
Litt1e Canada residents affected of this type of proposed development.
Mrs. Scalze pointed out that additional apartments and commercial develop-
ment is proposed for the remaining area of County Road D.
Mrs. Scalze also expressed concern for the development of Edgerton Street
in Vadnais Heights. Scalze was concerned with the traffic situation on
Edgerton.
The Planner suggested that in the interest of cooperation Little Canada
should request Vadnais Heights to nogify the City when something is
going in on Little Canada's borders.
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Mrs. Scalze stated that Vadnais Heights should make provisions to get
their traffic elsewhere.
The Planner also suggested that Little Canada make their position known
to the Metro Council.
The Mayor suggested that the City Planner address this issue to the Metro
Counc9l.
Mr. Forsberg pointed out that there already is a serious traffic problem
on Edgerton. Forsberg stated that the Metro Council should step in,
until Vadnais Heights comes up with a proposal to handle their traffic.
Forsberg suggested that Vadnais Heights put in a fu11 cloverleaf in this
area.
The Planner suggested that Little Canada say they are very concerned with the
land use pattern that has developed in Vadnais Heights to date and with
the larger projects on the north s9de of the freeway and the resulting
traffic problems. The Planner also suggested that the City consider an
official letter to the City of Vadnais Heights to let them know that the
City is expressing these concerns to the Metro Council.
The Planner stated that there are some discrepancies in the street
classifications between the City of Vadnais Heights and Little Canada.
These will be reviewed in relation with the traffic situation.
The Planner indicated that the County's Comprehensive Plan has some
information on multiple family land use for Little Canada that he does
not know where it came firom. The Planner will inform the Metro Council
to take a look at Little Canada's plan with regard to this.
There are also some discrepancies on transportion figures. The County's
figures are acceptable.
The Planner stated that there are also discrepancies on funding designation.
These discrepancies will be pointed out to the County.
City's Mayor Hanson informed the Council that when the City's population increases
Liquor by approximately 400 additional people, the City wi]1 be in a position to
License offer another off-sale liquor license. The present owners of the C.ity's
Fees three off-sale liquor licenses are concerned that this wi11 unfavorablY
affect their businesses. Hanson also reported that it has heen rumored
that MGM is seeking another location, possibly in Little Ganada.
Mr. Forsberg stated that he was informed that at least two of the present
off-sale liquor license holders are prepared to sell to MGM, Forsberg
stated that rather than issue a new license, if MGM is seeking a location
in Little Canada, they shou1d buy a present license.
Council suggested that the City ordinance be amended to state that a
fourth off-sale intoxicating liquor license wi71 be available when the
City's population reaches 10,000.
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Mr. Forsberg introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-5-259 - AMENDING ORDINANCE N0. 87
SO THAT THE CITY CANNOT ISSUE ANY ADDITIONAL OFF-SALE
INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSES UNTIL THE CITY OF LITTLE
CANADA REACHES THE POPULATION OF 10,000
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Scalze.
l~yes (5j Scalze, Fahey, Flanson, Forsberg, Nardini.
Nayes (01.
Resotution declared adopted.
This reso1ution appears in Resolution Qook No. 7, Page 191 and Page 192.
The City Clerk asked if Ramsey County had the authority to issue liquor
licenses. The Attorney replied that the County has this authority in
areas not governed by a city.
Mrs. Scalze pointed out the City's liquor license fees are low in relation
to what other cities are charging.
The City Clerk also suggested that the Council set a fee for the transfer
of liquor licenses. The Clerk suggested a fee of $300 for on-sale intoxi-
cating 1iquor licenses and $100 for off-sale intoxicating liquor licenses.
It was suggested that the City's fee for on-sale intoxicating liquor licenses
be increased from $1,500 to $3,000 due to the doubling of the City's popu-
lation since 1970 and the fact that this fee has not been increased since
1970. Also increased costs to the City for police protection was noted
as a reason for the increase in the fee.
Mayor Hanson stated that he was not in favor of doubling this fee at this
time.
Mrs. Scalze introduced the foltowing resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-5-260 - AMENDING ORDINANCE N0. 87 TO
INCREASE THE FEE FOR N-SALE TNTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSES
FROM $1,500 to $3,000 AND FURTHER ESTABLISHING A$300
TRANSFER fEE FOR ON-SALE INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICGNSES AND
$100 FOR OFF-SFlLE INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSES FlND FUR7HER
DECLARING THFlT THE REASONS fOR THE INCREASE IN THE ON-SFlLE
INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSE FEE IS DUE TO TfIE FACT THAT
THERE HAS BEEN NO INCREASE IN THIS FEE SINCE 1970 FlND THE
CITY'S POPULATION HAS DOUBLED IN ThIFlT TIME AND ALSO DUE
TO THE INCREASE IN COST TO THE CITY FOR POLICE PROTECTION
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr, Fahey.
qyes (4) Scalze, Fahey, Nardini, Forsberg.
Nayes (1) Hanson.
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 192.
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City Council
May 27, 1981
Mrs. Nardini indicated that the off-sale liquor license fee is set by
State Statute.
Mr. fahey indicated that the State allows a$150.00 fee for this license
and the City is charging $100.00.
Mr. Fahey introduced the fo1lowing resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-5-261 - AMENDING ORDINANCE N0. 87 TO
INCRE SE THE 0 F-SALF. INTOXICATTNG LIQUOR LICEDISE FEE
FROM $100.00 TO $150.00 WHICN IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED
BY STFlTE LAW
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr. forsberg,
Ayes (5) Fahey, Forsberg, Hanson, Nardini, Scalze.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This reso1ution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 193.
Counci1 also felt that the City's off-sale non-intoxicating liq~aor license
fee should be increased from $5.00 to $25.00 and the on-sale non-
intoxicating liquor license fee shou7d be increased from $40.00 to $80.00.
It was felt that the fee for a wine license was adequate at $100.00.
Mr. Forsberg introduced the following resolution and moved its acioption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-5-262 - AMENDING ORDINANCE N0. II7 TO INCREASE
THE OFF-SALE NON-INTOXICATIDIG LIQUOR LICENSE FEE FROM $5.00 TO
$25.00, TO IMCREASE THE ON-SALE NON-INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSE
FEE FROM $40.00 TO $80.00 AND TO LEFlVE THE 41INE LIQUOR LICENSE:
FEE AT $100.00
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr. Fahey.
Flyes (5) Fnrsberg, Fahey, Nardini, Scalze, Hanson.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Reso7ution Book No. 7, Page 193.
The City Clerk suggested that a transfer fee be set for the off-sale non-
~ntoxicating liquor licenses, the on-sale non-intoxicating liquor licenses,
and the wine license.
Mr. forsberg introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-5-263 - SETTING A TRANSFER FEE OF $10,00
FOR THE FOLLOWING: THE OFF-SALE NON-INTOXICFlTIPIG LIQUOR
LICENSE, TFIE ON-SALE NON-INTOXICATING LIQUOR LTCENSE AND
THE WINE LIQUOR LICENSE
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Scalze.
qyes (5) Forsberg, Scalze, Hanson, Fahey, Nardini.
Nayes (O).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resotution Book No. 7, Page 194.
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City Counci1
May 27> 1981
The State Fire Marshal7 has submitted a report to the Council outlining
recommendations regarding Hoggsbreath. Council felt that the issuance
of the Floggsbreath liquor license should be contingent upon these
recommendations being complied with.
Mr. Fahey introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-5-264 - REQUIRING THAT AS A CONDITTON OF THE
ISSUANCE Of THE LIQUOR LICENSE TO HOGGSBREATH, THFlT HOGGSBREFlTH
COMPLY WITH TNE RECOMMENDA7IONS OF THE ST~TE FIRE MARSHALL
The foregoing resolution was duly seconde~ by Mr. forsberg.
qyes (5) Fahey, Forsberg, Hanson, Nardini, Scalze.
Nayes (O).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 194.
Cancellation
Of Flnimal The City has been notified that the Town of White Bear is cancelling
Control their animal control contract with the City,
Contract
It was noted that Mr. Thomas Angley, who recently resigned as ths Animal
Control Officer for the Town of White Bear, may be interested in contracting
directly with Little Canada for this service.
P~rs. Scalze stated that Mr. Angley wi11 probab7y contact the City regarding
this matter.
Lake The City of Maplewood has invited the City Clerk to attend a meeting regarding
Overflow Phalen overftow. This meeting will be held at Maplewood on May 28th.
Meeting
Mrs. Nardini inquired how the figures for lake overflow cost distribution
were arrived at. Mrs. Scalze stated that she thought impervious surface
was a consideration in these figures.
Mayor Hanson instructed the City Clerk to get a determination on how these
figures were arrived at.
Emergency It was noted that the City Clerk will attend a meeting on Thursday,
Medical June 4, for an overview of Health Central's paramedic system in northern
Service Ramsey County.
Flpproval St. John's Church ~s requested approval of a dance permit and an on-sa1e
Of Dance 3.2 beer license for their picnic to be held on Flugust 1 and 2, 1981.
Permit & They are also requesting permission to use the snow fences and overhead
3.2 Beer wiring and lighting that was used at the Canadian Days Celebration,
Permit For
St. John's
Church
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i~~Y 27, 198~.
Yarxirig
Yroblem
At
13rady~s
&
Hoggsbreath
Award iaag
Sealcoating
73id
Niayor Hanson reported that the City received a letter from Ed
Cave & Sons, Sxic, concerning a parking problem at Ho~gsbreath
and Bradyos. l~layor Hanson stated that this was a private ma'tter
and the City should not become involved iri it.
The Czty received the Y'o1:Lowing bids for the sealcoating of' City
streetse
i3id A].ternative A
Sealcoat~.zzg of
streets with
sweeping before
and afterwards,)
T. A, Schii'sky
~3iturninous Roadways
Bituminous Construo~
tion & Contracting Co.
>3¢ per sq, yard
41¢ per sq, yard
l~7.2r~ per sq. yard
Bid Alternative !i
Sealcoating of ~
streets with
sweeping before.)
51 1/2¢ per sqe yard
36 i/2µ~ per sq. yard
Ltlr~ per sq. yard
7'he City received the f'ollowing bids for sweeping o£ City streets
after sealcoatingc
Crosstown Sweeping
Arneracan Sweepers
~r~6I~0p0.00
W4/1e32
iv3r. Forsberg introduceci the followan; resolution and rnoved its adoptione
N.ESOLUTION DIO. F17.-5-266 - ACCEPTING 'I'HE BID OF BITUMI'NOI7S
ki~ADWAY k'UR Se;ALCOA`i':LNG Ok' CSTY STR.EE'PS `vJITi30U^1 S1dE;EPING
AF'TEHWA~ZDS AT 3~ 1/2 CENTS YER S~UARks XA~tD AN~ FUN.TIIER
ACCEYTING THE BID OF AMERICAN SWE~PERS k'O~Z S"w'EEYING OF CITX S'1'NEETS
AF'TER S1~ALCOATING oF ~49A.32
Water
improvements
['he foregoi.ng resoiution was duly seconded by ~Irs, IVardini,
Ayes (5) F'orsberg, Nardini, fianson, Scalze, Faheye
Nayes (0)0
Heso~lution declared adop'ted.
Tha.s resolution appears in Hesolution IIoox No> 7, Pages ~.95 and 196.
Ihe f5ngineer submitted to the Counci:~ his recommendations for watermain
improvements in the City f'or 198J., They are as followse
i, Ftice Streei fxom z4innesota A.venue to tiittle Canada Roaclg
2, Iona Lane;
3. llernont ~rom Na.ce to Jacicsan;
1t. County ttoad B-2 from St, Jude's I~iedicaL to ~ackson;
5. Jacxson from County Hoad 13-2 south 350~;
6, County Hoad ]3-2 from Edgerton to Ke11er Yarkway;
7, Ureenbrier Circle;
8, llianna Lane and liaanna Court;
), Edgerton Prom Little Canada Road to County Road D,
Yage -15..
i~1INUTES
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f4ay 279 1951
Ntr, Forsberg reported that Kellogg High School i~ planxiing to hook
up to water frorn the watermain that runs along the raa.lroad tracks
on the Glasrud property,
Councilman r'ahey asked whero Kellogg would be assessed for watermain.
The ~;ngineer replaed that Kellogg would be assessed along llemont and
Yark Street except for the north 150 f'eet of Yark Street at the time
this unprovement would go in.
l~ir, Forsberg stated that the School presently has an ;~11,000 dei'erred
a,ssessment for sewer, but no assessment for water,
Mrs. Scalze expressed concern that some reszdents who are located on
Schletty llrive but hooked up to water from Little Canada itoad were
required to put money into escrow for future watermain assessments
on Schletty llra.ve.
t~rr, Fahey stated that iSe:llogg should be informed that if they hoox
up to the watermain siong the railroad tracks, they will still be
assessed for waterrnain improvement on Demont and Parx Streets when
such improveraent is put in.
Nlr. F~ahey introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0, 81-5-2b7 - GRANT7NG Y~;tu4I5SI0N TO THE SCHOOL
D'SSTRICT TU HOOK UP TO 7.'HE WATEE~tiAIN 1:UCATED i+TliAR `PHk;
1tAILtZOAD `PHACRS 01! THE `i'ED GLA:iI?UD & ASSOCIATGS PHOYEfZl'Y PE30VST1ING
THAT THE SCHOOL DISTHICT SIGNS AN AGRk;LMENT STATTNG THA'P `['HliY
WILL PAX TfTEIR F'RpNT FOOTAGI: ASSESSMENT FOR WATERitiI~1IN WHEN IT
IS PUT IN ON DEMQN`I' ANll PAHiC STt'Z~'ETS I;XCEYT F'OR THE NORTH 150
FEET ALUNG YARTS S`PR:E.E'P9 AND THA'1' `PHEY BE Dlik~]ED SN FAVOR OF
ANY SUCki WA.1'EHNIAIN IMk'RpV~:MEi~1T
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by 14xs, Scalze.
Ayes (5) Fahey, Scal.ze, Ilanson, Nardini, k'orsberg,
Nayes (O).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Hesolution Book Ido. 7, pages ly6 and 197>
`Phe City Clerk stated that the School llistrict will xieed a permzt .from
the railroad to ,jacic a waterline under the railroad tracks. The
t~ngiz~eer stated that the xazlroad may also require a special insurance
policy to do this>
With regard to the L'ngineer~s recommended improvements, P+ir, Fahey
stated that he felt the Rice Street improvement was crib:ical, but
that the City shou].d not force water on anyone not wanting it,
`1'he Nx~gineer stated that the only reason he is bringing up Rice
Street is because of' the County bike paths that are planned for that
street, ~t wou:td be easier to put water in before the bike paths
went in.
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City CounciJ.
i~iay 27~ 19f31
Mr. F'ahey asiced if the City had enough money to order all the
irqprovements the Engineex is recommending, 'Phe City Cierk stated
that the City~s mill rate is pretty high at present. `Phe Clerk
aiso pointed out thai ii' the Council called for public hearings
on all the 9.mprovements, it would taxe a 4/sthos vote of the Council
to order the improvements>
T~ir. F'orsberg stated that he agreed with the ktlce Street ifnprovement
and some of the ottiers, but if the remainder were desired, the people
would be petitioning the Council for thern,
Niayor Hanson stated that he did not want io see peop.i.e stuck with a
high assessment on a small water project. It would be better to ordex
the improvements with a large projact and get a lower rate for the
work. }ianson also pointed out that senior citizens can apply for a
de£erxment,
Fahey stated that he agreed with Mr, k'orsbexg and was not in favor
of the improvements unless tne people petitioned £or tnem,
Nlrs> Scalze stated that the Council knows there are people on County
Hoad I3-2 and Greenbrier Circle that are interested in water. Mrs,
Nardini stated that the people on Dianna Lane and Dlanna Court do not
want water,
Mrs. Nardini 9.ntroducsd the i'ollowing resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. ftl-~-26tS - CALL:LNG F'OR. A PUBLIC HEAFttNG
ON THli NSI~; ARE;AS i?k~COi~iMf:NDED 1~Y `PtI~: CITX E~iVUTNEER F'OR
rn7ATERt~SAtN L~iPROV~M~,NT FOR JUVE 2Ly~ 1981
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr. Hanson.
Ayes (2) ilardini, Hanson.
Nayes (j) Scalze, Forsberg, Fahey,
Resolution denieu,
i~Tr. Forsberg introducea the follo*aixig resolution and moved its ado~tion;
FtESOLUTION N0. 81_5_26y - CALLSVG I'UH A PUBLIC HI:FlRING
ON~~t~S~l, 3, 11, 5s ba ~VD ~7 FOH WA`CENi~iASN litiTPROUlii~l[+.1IR'
The foregoing resolution was duly secoraded by Mr. FaheJ.
Ayes (5) Forsberg9 Fahey9 Hanson, Nardini, Scalze,
Nayes (0).
Hesolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Hesolution Boox No. 7, Yages 198 and 19g,
Dry ~raater ivirs, Scalze suggested that whenever a nerr street is put in, the Caty
Lines should require that dry waterlines also be i~stalled. The Engineer
stated that usuaJ.ly when pressure is put into a dry waterline, leaks
are found,
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ON `' 9 lytfl. AND IIJSTRUCTSNG `.CHE CITY TG ADVERTISL
IN IT5 LEGAL iV'WSYAYER THAT ANY R.I'sSIllENTS OF LIT`PI,E
CANAUA II~ITER~S`i'ED SN W~Tk~Na`4IAA1N IMPRUVEMENT SUBa~IIT A
PETITIOiV FOR SUGI[ Ii~ik'h'OVEi~k.N7.' '1'0 THE CITY COUNCIL
M:CNUTI;S
City Councii
NiaY 279 1981
'~lash put Nirs. Scalze asked the 'Lngineer iF he would .Look at a wash out that
Ixi is an Spooner Yarx. 1^he wa,sh out a.s causing the asphalt bike bath
Spooner to break up,
Yark
'i'he E;ngineer stated that he would look at this,
Sprospty Mrs, Scalze reported that I~ir. Sprospty Fill parmit has expired, but
Land NLr. Sprospty still has some commercial equipment and debree to be
F'illing cleaned up. Mrs, Scalze asked i£ comcnercial equipment coulcl be
stored on residential propsrty.
The Attoxney re~lied that commercial vehicles cannot be parked ox
stored on residential propexty,
i~iayor IIanson stated that he would speaic to I~r. Sprospty about thism
Clty~s i~irs. Scalze reported that both the cities of PSaplewood and Vadnaa.s
I~'ire Eieights have fire ratings o£ 6. I~irs, Scalze requested that the
Rating appropriate government bodies be contacted to requesi a reduced
fire rating for Little Canada. Litt7.e Canada~s current rata.ng is
7 and Nirs. Scaize f'eels it should be 6,
N1r> Foxsberg informed the Council tP~at Little Canada~s fire rating
was 10 at orie tirne9 but was reduced to 7 due to the efficiency of
the City+s Fire Department,
i~Yrs. Scalze introduced the following resolution and moved its ado~tiona
Hk;SOLUTION N0, 81-5-270 - INSTRUCTIIvTG 'S'I3~; CITY CLEHK '1'0 CpNTACT
TIiE YYROY T~ t30DIE5 AND kZ~GJUEST A L~WE;RING OF THE CI'PY OF
LITTLE CAivADAoS FIkZE RATING FROI~i 7~ro 6
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Nardini,
Ayes (5) ~calze9 Nardini, Hanson, Forsberg, Fahey,
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
Tnis resolution appears in Hesolution Book No. 7, Yage 199,
Sewer The Lrigineer subm:itted to the i~layor for his signature a sewer system
Systein eva].uation survey, The Council authorized the survey at a past
Evaluation Council meeting,
1'he Engineer reported that the cost of the survey will be y32,000 0£
which the City pays ~3,000 and the Federal government pays ;y29'000.
k'age ~la-
I~fItVUTI;S
City Council
i~iay 27, -~9~1
Grid The Engineer submitted to the Council for their review a suggested
3ystem streei gra.d systern for the area o£ Yayne ,Avenue.
For Area
Of' Yayne Mrs, Scalze comraented that she would like the Yark Commission to talce
Avenue a look at this auggested grid system,
Tennis The Attorney submitted to the NIayor for his signature an agreement
Court between the City of Little Canada and the Little Canada Day Care
Agreement Center which would allow the City the nse of the tennis court at
the Center in exchange for lawn maintenaaxce.
NlacDonalds Mr. F'oxsberg expressed concern that the tr~ffic at MacDonalds is both
Traffic entering and eac5.ting on Ra.ce Street. The City he,d requested that
Situation the traffic enter on Rice Street and exit on I~linnesota Street,
Nlayor Hanson stated that this should be submitted to the Buildixig
Ittspector.
Lakeshore i~irs. Nardini stated that she believed it was required of the shopping
Shopping center on the corner of Lakeshore and Little Ganada Road that they do
Center some landscaping oY their property and that they install txa£fic signs,
Mrs. Nardini pointed aut that this has not been done.
Ad~ourn i~Irs, Nardini intxoduced the following resolution and moved i.ts adoption:
NESOLUTION N0. 81..5-271 - ADJOURNING
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by 3+Ir, FIanson,
Ayes (5) Nardini, Hanson, Fahey, Forsberg, Scalze,
Nayes (0)>
Resolution declared adopted,
'Phis resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 200.
'Phere being no f'urther business, the meeting was adjourned at 11:l~5 P.M,
Respectfully submitted~
;~,iF_~~~/~T~.~ ~~~~.~,~--,
Katlhleen G.Lanzer / ~J
Recording Secretary
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