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MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION OCTOBER 9, 1997 is not in keeping with the guidelines, then there must be a unique situation to warrant that feature as an acceptable material. The Planner felt there was nothing unique about this situation to waiver from the architectural guidelines, which is to discourage the use of backlit canopies. Lawrence pointed out that there are backlit canopies on the Steichen store. The Planner pointed out that Steichen's is located in Roseville. Lawrence stated that the area is not unique from Roseville, and they found it acceptable to allow the use of backlit canopies. Lawrence asked why these canopies should be prohibited a block away. Lawrence stated that he did not see how they could be prohibited, and asked what signage issues were discussed. The City Planner reported that Arby's indicated they would have a pylon sign as well as a neon Arby's sign on the front of the building. There was no other signage proposed. Lawrence reported that the intent of the backlit canopies is to eliminate the use of additional signs and will help contain costs. Keis pointed out that the purpose of the architectural guidelines is to eliminate bright lights and to create a certain atmosphere. Keis pointed out that the guidelines are in place and he felt the City should stick with them. Keis did not feel Lawrence presented a good argument justifying the use of the backlit canopies. Lawrence reported that under the Sign Ordinance, Arby's is allowed 270 square feet of signage. They are proposing to use half in a pylon sign and the other half for their logo on the building. Lawrence stated that he did not see anything in the Code that says signs must be approved in order to erect a building. Lawrence reported that Arby's would like to keep this project consistent with other projects. All other Arby's have backlit canopies except for one. Lawrence reported that it is a budget issue, pointing out that Arby's is taking an existing building and revitalizing it for themselves as well as the City. However, Arby's needs to maintain their costs. Keis asked the cost difference between metal awnings and backlit vinyl canopies. Lawrence pointed out that the metal canopies will have no impact on the area at night. Keis pointed out that Arby's will have a pylon sign. Page 56