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MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 12, 2007 Road and Arcade Street. Van Allen stated that a lot of water flows through this area, and felt that additional roofs and pavement raise water quality concerns. Barraclough noted that this is a concept review, and noted that there are a variety of ways to extend the temporary cul-de-sac shown on the plan. Barraclough noted that the temporary cul-de-sac to the west could end up a "U" shape connecting back to LaBore Road. Pat Johnson, LaBore Road, indicated that he is proposing the development of his 11 '/4 acre site with six new single-family lots. Johnson felt the large lots he is proposing are more in character with the area. Johnson indicated that the area is wet and a lot of natm•al springs exist. Johnson felt the proposed cul-de-sac was too long, and the developer should have to stay with the 500 foot maximum. If further development occurs causing the need for road connections, then the cul-de-sac could be extended and the road connections completed. Johnson noted that the longer cul-de-sac will result in the removal of a great many trees. Duray noted that three of the proposed lots are located in Maplewood, and asked how run-off would be handled. Soby noted that the development will have to comply with the Watershed District's requirements. He pointed out that the development cannot increase the run-off in the area. Soby noted that when the City recommended that road connections be provided to the east and west, he indicated that the layout of the proposal would likely change and the street would become longer. Soby indicated that the cul-de-sac length is measured from the point where the future road connections will be made. This measurement does not exceed the 500 foot cul-de-sac maximum. Soby indicated that he would not be requesting a Variance for cul-de-sac length given that the measurement is taken at the future road connection. Soby pointed out that the concept meets all the City's Codes. He indicated that the density may be higher than presently exists, but noted that this will change as this area develops. Soby also pointed out that most of the large tracts of land he has developed were purchased from the children of the original owners. Soby stated that he also understands that the engineering and drainage have to be worked out, and that the plans could change based on this. Duray acknowledged that the City asked for the road connections to the east and south. However, his vision was that the number of lots would be kept at around 12 with a cul-de-sac length at approximately 500 feet in from LaBore Road. Socha stated that she agreed with the neighbors that the cul-de-sac should be limited to 500 feet in from LaBore Road. She felt this was a public -6-