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The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at
8:09 p.m., August 15, 1979 by Chairman Ken Gourley. Members present: James Shearen,
Jerome Heath, Vernon Reinert, Vi Schwankl, Bob Doocey and Council liaison John
McLean for part of the meeting. Members absent: Lawrence Johnson.
The first item on the agenda was the approval of the minutes from the May 16, June 27,
July 11 and July 18 meetings. In reference to the May 16 minutes, Mr. Reinert felt
it would be appropriate for the typist to identify themselves because there were errors
noted from time to time, and that way they would know who to go to if there was a need
for clarification. The Commission requested that initials be put on the minutes in
the future. Mr. Shearen moved to approve the minutes of the May 16, June 27, July 11,
and July 18 meetings. Vi Schwankl seconded the motion. All were in favor. Motion
declared passed.
Mr. McLean was not present to give his report from the Council.
In response to a request from the Council, the matter of the rezone for the duplex
at 790 Vicky Lane was reviewed. Mr. and Mrs. Brunner, owners of the property in
question, were present as well as several residents opposed to the rezone. The
Planning and Zoning Commission had previously recommended approval of a rezone from
R-1 to R-2 for this property; however, it had been brought back to the P & Z level
from the public hearing because of an error in the rezone, which should have been
commercial to R-2. The portions of the August 13 Council minutes that dealt with
this were read by Mr. Heath, and the P & Z minutes from the May 29 and June 20
meetings were read by Mr. Gourley. Mr. Shearen raised the question of whether a
rezone was necessary since the property was in a commercial zone, in which lesser
uses were allowed. Mr. Gourley indicated that this area had been zoned as a commer-
cial district under Ordinance No. 6, which Mr. Locher felt was concurrent with the
general business district in Ordinance No. 56, which did not permit an R-2 use. Mr.
Shearen noted that Mr. Locher had been going to research this, but there was no ans-
wer on it yet. Mr. Reinert felt an interpretation was necessary before a decision
could be made. Mr. Gourley said that in the past, residential had been permitted in
a commercial zone without a rezone or special use permit; however, it was noted this
had been only single family (R-1) and not multifamily (R-2). Mr. Reinert felt this
was preferential zoning and asked what the rationale was for allowing R-1 but not
R-2. Mr. Heath thought this could be because it had developed that way (R-1) and
requiring a rezone for R-2 would be notice to the residents. He also felt the resi-
dential areas along the strip zoning should be rezoned as such and traded for commer-
cial in other areas. A statement signed by a number of residents who were not opposed
to the property at 790 Vicky Lane being rezoned to R-2, dated August 14, 1979, was
presented to the Commission. Mr. Gourley opened the meeting to discussion from the
audience.
A resident, Mr. Dick Paulsen, 789 Vicky Lane, said that the immediate property owners
were adamantly against the zoning change on several grounds: (1) Homeowners tend to
take care of their property better and were more concerned with the feelings of the
neighborhood in regard to noise, traffic, and so on. Transient renters would affect
the property values, the living style, and the general character of the neighborhood.
(2) If there was a lot of on -street parking from the duplex, this could block visi-
bility and be a potential hazard for the children. (3) If one change to R-2 was
granted, there would be no reason to refuse others, and the nature of the whole block
could be changed. (4) The house presently does not meet the minimum requirements
for a duplex as it has only one well and septic system. Mr. Paulson said there had
been trouble in the past with the poor septic system, and it could be a neighborhood
problem if not taken care of. Mr. Paulson also felt that those opposed to the change
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had moved into a residential, single family community, and had expected it to stay
that way. He felt the zoning in that area should be changed from commercial to R-1,
and suggested the rezone decision be postponed until that was handled. He also
pointed out that the property at 790 Vicky Lane was zoned partially commercial and
partially R-1. Another resident, in reference to (3), said that approximately
one-third (6) of the houses on the block were suitable to become duplexes and could
at some time apply for rezoning if this one were granted. Mr. Paulson indicated
that although the petition presented at the public hearing was not available, 90
percent of the property owners who were immediately adjacent to 790 Vicky Lane were
opposed to the change, whereas those who signed the statement not opposed to the
change either did not live on Vicky Lane or lived farther down the street. Mr.
Shearen raised the question of whether either list constituted two-thirds of the
adjoining property owners within 300 feet; however, Mr. Gourley noted that while this
was required for a special use permit, it was not required for a rezone application,
although it was felt to be a consideration. Mr. Paulson and Mr. Brunner were asked
to indicate on the map the locations of the homeowners who had signed the petition
and declaration; taking into consideration all those within 300 feet of the property,
it was felt to be fairly even. Mr. Paulson felt several homeowners should not be
considered, as they did not have access to Vicky Lane, and he also had not contacted
them and felt they might change their minds. Mr. Gourley reviewed the background of
the house, which had been used as a duplex up through 1975; he had been in contact
with one of the previous owners, and verified that when the property had changed hands
in 1976, the new owners had dropped the R-2 use at that time. Mr. Reinert felt that
the P & Z should consider whether they wanted R-2 use in this particular area, as it
might start a chain reaction; if not, it should be restricted to R-1. He also felt
the wishes of the people directly affected by the change should be considered. Mr.
Brunner pointed out that in developing new land, it was a common practice to use R-2
as a buffer between commercial and residential property, and that in this case, they
would serve as a buffer between the commercial property to the south and across the
street. In reference to the septic problems brought up by Mr. Paulson, he indicated
that there were not signs of damage , and also that the property was larger than the
surrounding residential lots and would probably have fewer people living there than
now live on some of those lots. The structure of the building would not change; it
was set up as a duplex, had been there 14 years, and was rented out periodically up
until 1976; and because it had not been rented from 1976 through the present, it had
lost its duplex status. No one on the street had moved in since 1976, so they had
either moved there or were living there when it was a duplex. In respect to the num-
ber of cars that would be parked, he noted that the City had an ordinance that covered
vehicles on the street, which would be followed, and there were lots now that had 5
or 6 cars parked on them. Also, Mr. Brunner felt he did not want the value of his
property to decrease either, and that the only thing that would affect the area would
be if commercial came in behind them, or if anyone let their property run down. Also,
it had been brought up that there would be nothing preventing others from becoming
duplexes as well, but Mr. Brunner noted that it would not be just a matter or rezoning,
but physical alteration of the homes as well. Mr. and Mrs. Brunner indicated they
realized that if and when they decided to rent as a duplex, they would have to meet
all building codes as far as putting in a new septic system and well. It was noted
that if rezoned, it would not be necessary to specify separate sewer and water systems
as this came under the State Building Code, and was not a concern of zoning. Mr.
Reinert felt there was a reason why certain properties revert back to certain zoning,
and that was to establish uniformity; however, Mr. Gourley noted that in this case,
the zoning,rather than reverting back to R-1,it reverted to commercial. Mr. McLean
raised the question of whether a new application was necessary. The present applica-
tion was corrected to read "rezone to duplex status, R-2, from commercial and partial
R-1 or from general business and R-1, whichever applies," and was signed and dated by
Mrs. Brunner. Mr. Shearen moved to recommend approval to the Council of the zoning
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change and that the fees be transfered to the corrected application. Vi Schwankl
seconded the motion. All were in favor with the exception of Mr. Reinert, voting
no, on the basis of respecting the wishes of the people that live in that neighbor-
hood. Motion declared passed. The public hearing had been set for August 27 at
9:30 p.m.
Next on the agenda was an application by Mr. Rivard for a special use permit to raise
chickens on a 2 acre parcel. Mr. Rivard's brother, Don Rivard, was present on his
behalf. This matter had been carried over from a previous meeting in July, because
at the time there was only one signature from the adjoining landowners. The. Clerk
had indicated that Mr. Rivard had been unable to obtain a signature from an invest-
ment company that owned the adjoining landas it was based in Chicago and the repre-
sentative in Minneapolis had an unlisted phone number. Mr. Gourley asked if there
were any other parties aside from the investment company and Emmett Label, who had
signed the petition,who owned land within 300 feet of the property; however, Don
Rivard was not sure and indicated most of the surrounding land was undeveloped.
There was further discussion of a house kitty-cornered from the property. Mr. Gourley
noted that a drawing had not been provided and was required. Mr. Rivard was asked
to provide the drawing and obtain the signature of the homeowner discussed above.
Don Rivard estimated about 100 chickens were kept on the land, but could not clarify
Mr. Rivard's intentions on this. The present coop was about 10 x 15, or 150 square
feet; Mr. Reinert thought that for confined housing, the estimate was 1 chicken per
square foot. Mr. Shearen moved that the application be tabled until more information
was gotten and more signatures were obtained from the adjoining property owners. Mr.
Reinert seconded the motion. All were in favor. Motion declared passed. Mr. Gourley
further explained that the P & Z was looking for the signatures of everyone within 300
feet whether a house was there or not, but that they would take into consideration
that the investment company couldn't be reached. Also needed was information on how
many chickens there would be and under what conditions.
The next item on the agenda was two variance applications by Mr. Shaughnessy, 6231
Otter Lake Road. Mr. Shaughnessy presently has a house on tract A (1.02 acres) and
wants to put a house on tract B (1 acre); this required two variances, one for each
tract. This was felt to fall within the policy previously set by the Commission. Mr.
Doocey moved to recommend approval of the two applications. Seconded by Mr. Shearen.
All were in favor. Motion declared passed. This will be on the Council agenda for
August 27.
The next item was a variance request by Mr. Bhend, 7702 Lake Drive, for a lot less
than 22 acres (1 acre lot). According to a note from the Clerk, the property had
been divided one month after the ordinance was published, a variance had never been
requested, and it had changed owners several times since. There was a problem with
registering title, and Mr. Locher felt the City should formally issue a variance.
Mr. Bhend was not present, and there was no certificate_ of survey, although there
was a legal description. Vi Schwankl moved toitab1e it until a certificate of survey
was available. Mr. Doocey seconded the motion. --All were in favor. Motion declared
passed. The Clerk is requested to write a letter to Mr. Bhend indicating to him
that a certificate of survey on the property was needed before action could be taken
on the application. This should also be put on the P & Z agenda for the September
meeting.
/The next item on the agenda was an application for a rezone from R-1 to R-2, duplex,
by Tim Rehbein on lots 4, 5, 6f and 8, block 1, and lot 8, block 2, Carole's Estates.
Lot 7, block 1, was Mr. Rehbein's home. Mr. Rehbein had presented the idea previously
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and a letter had been received from the planner that indicated it would be consistant
with the Comprehensive Plan. There were already two duplexes onthesouth side of
77th Street. Mr. Rehbein asked if the. rezone to R-2 was granted, would he still
have the option of using the lots as R-1. This was a question of lesser uses. Mr.
Gourley felt a special use permit might be needed for that. Mr. Shearen moved to
recommend the Council grant'Rehbe Construction a rezone from R-1 to R-2 with the
option of the lesser use of R-1 only, subject to the interpretation of the attorney,
and a public hearing be set. Vi Schwankl.seconded the motion. All were in favor.
Motion declared passed.
The next item on the agenda was an application by Mr. Wegleitner for a special use
permit to operate a kennel. There was a representative present, who indicated that
it had recently come to their attention that they were governed by Lino Lakes ordin-
ances. There had been some confusion because their mailing address was Hugo, MN.
Mr. Gourley read from the March 17, 1975 P & Z minutes in relation to a similar request
by Mr. Orrin Clover, for which the P & Z recommended approval of a special use permit
subject to annual review, and limited to 8 dogs with the exclusion of litters that
would not be retained more than 6 months. The March 25, 1975 Council minutes were
read by Mr. Gourley and they further stipulated that some type of visual screen be
provided. It was explained that Mr. Wegleitner would like to maintain in the next
2 to 3 years a breeding show stock of 12 dogs. This would not be a kennel because
they would raise a single breed of dogs, and would be for show only and no dogs would
be boarded nor any services provided. The puppies would be sold and the money used
for maintenance. It would qualify not as a profit-making venture, but as a hobby run
at a loss. Mr. Gourley noted it would qualify as a business if it were making a profit
and open to the public. They plan to build separation pens and runs; at present the
entire 5 acres is fenced and an additional fence encloses the backyard. There was
discussion on the surrounding landowners; because of the freeway and Washington County
across the street, the signatures represented all the surrounding landowners. Mr.
Doocey read Ordinance No. 37, section 9, which required that the land be zoned commer-
cial and a special use permit be issued in order to run a kennel. Mr. Heath felt that
since they were in open country, this shouldn't make any difference, as there were no
adjoining landowners nearby. There was some question as to which of the ordinances
regarding dog kennels applied in this situation, and the precedent set by the Clover
Kennels situation was also considered. Mr. Heath felt that kennels were usually run
by one family, and if the land were rezoned commercial, then any future buyer would
be stuck with commercial zoning; he felt a special use permit should be used instead.
Mr. Reinert felt no action should be taken until the attorney gave an interpretation.
Mr. Heath suggested recommending to the Council that they change that part of the
ordinance. Mr. Shearen moved to recommend to the Council that they grant a special
use permit to Mr. Wegleitner to operate a private hobby kennel with a maximum of 12
dogs, other than litters up to 6 months of age, and also that the Council refer to
City Ordinance No. 37 on kennels being allowed on commercial property and also refer
to the March 17, 1975 action by the Planning and Zoning Commission where Mr. Kelling
made reference to that rezone conflict. In reference to special use permits, Mr.
Gourley pointed out that any neighbor could apply for a similar permit. Mr. Shearen
noted it could only be done with the agreement of two-thirds of the surrounding prop-
erty owners, and in this case 100 percent of the property owners were in favor. Mr.
Heath thought the circumstances (agricultural versus, for example, Vicky Lane) had to
be taken into consideration. Mr. Gourley pointed out that special use permits were
transferable with the sale of the property. Section 5.04 of Ordinance No. 56 was
consulted, "the permit shall be granted for a particular use and not for a particular
person or firm. The cancellation of a special use permit shall be considered adminis-
tratively equivalent to a rezoning." Once granted, even though it can be reviewed,
it goes with the land and a public hearing and advertisement process were required to
cancel it. Mr. Shearen amended his motion to include that the special use permit
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be granted on an annual renewable basis from the date of issuance. Mr. Reinert
seconded the motion. All were in favor. Motion declared passed. The attorney's
opinion should be gotten on this. It will be on the Council agenda for August 27.
Next on the agenda was a plat for East Birch Addition, submitted by Mr. Nadeau.
Updated copies (8-13-79) were available. Mr. Gourley read a letter from the County
Highway Department, dated July 18, which in addition to the previous request asked
that lot 11, block 4, and lot 13, block 3, have no access by driveway to County Rd. 54.
This would have to be a covenant on the deed and it would be up to the Council if
they wanted it indicated on the plat and on the deed. Mr. Nadeau felt buyers would
not want to put a driveway up to County Rd. 54 there because it was much higher than
the lots. In reference to the park dedication, Mr. Nadeau felt the lots were large
enough that people wouldn't want a park, and proposed cash in lieu of land. Lots
1, 2 and 3 now showed a 40 -foot setback as recommended. Mr. Nadeau again raised the
question of the 100 -foot setback from the center of the road called for in Ordinance
No. 56, which was not enforced. Pertinant buildings and structures within 100 feet
of the site, watercourses and marshes were all now indicated on the plat. Mr. Nadeau
indicated that easements or drainage weren": indicated but felt it was premature to
do so before the City engineer went over it. All power line easements were shown
(Anoka Electric). The section on drainage from the engineer's letter was read by
Mr. Gourley. It was Mr. Nadeau's understanding that the City engineer would address
drainage and confirm whether the ponds were adequate. Section 14 of the planner's
letter asked for easements of 12 feet centered on the rear lot lines where necessary,
but it was felt this was not necessary yet and was more of a notation for the future.
Lots 7, 8 and 9, block 3, were to take care of water storage, but Mr. Nadeau felt
they were also going to be buildable lots because they would be above the high water
table. There was further discussion, and Mr. Nadeau felt that the area would be better
off as part of a lot so the owner would be taking care of it rather than the City
maintaining the property. The proposed development was adjacent to the Centerville
city limits; a letter and copy of the plat had been sent to them but there had been
no response. Mr. Gourley felt the engineer should address the drainage easements and
utility easements, but otherwise everything seemed to have been complied with. Mr.
Nadeau indicated that some trees along an existing ditch would be taken out. There
was some question about the zoning classification indicated on the plan, which was
FR, farming -residential. tIt was felt the zoning should be agricultural, which is
concurrent with an R-1 use.- Mr. Reinert moved to submit Mr. Nadeau's plat to the
Council for approval subject to the correction of the terms expressed by the engineer,
and also to have it corrected in terms of the proper zoning for a plat of this type;
also the concerns of the planner being referred to the engineer for proper correction.
Mr. Shearen seconded the motion. All were in favor. Motion declared passed. Mr.
Gourley moved that the Council also be recommended to set a public hearing on Mr.
Nadeau's plat. Mr. Heath seconded the motion. All were in favor. Motion declared
passed. This will be on the Council agenda for August 27.
Next on the agenda was a sketch plan for Lino Industrial Park. A representative, Mr.
Gagteod, was present. The p1lnnej's and engineer's letters were read, and the Clerk
is requested to provide Mr. i;& with copies of these. The developer indicated
that the buildings would be one, and possibly two stories, and it would be small
businesses to start with, such as body shops and cabinet shops. Mr. Gourley noted a
rezone would be required, and the developer would have to make a decision as to whether
they wanted a light industrial or heavy industrial classification. The developer felt
there weren't the facilities for heavy industry at this time, but if sewer service
came in as anticipated, they would like to change the zoning at that time, or make
it subject to when the sewer did come in. Commercial zoning uses were read by Mr.
Gourley and discussed. In reference to the recommendation for a larger lot size and
additional streets, the developer didn't feel these were necessary. The land was sold
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by the square foot and a buyer could purchase more than one lot if needed. Mr.
Gourley suggested the developer look at Ordinance No. 56 on setback requirements
in regard to the lot sizes. The developer felt that in a commercial/industrial
area, buildings could go up to the lot lines. It was noted this could only be done
by variance, depending on the type of business. The ordinance was referred to on
setbacks, maximum building heights, andmaximum percentage of coverage of the lots,
and there was discussion as to whether the lot size was sufficient. There was some
question as to a 3 -acre minimum lot size, and the developer felt with the cost of the
property, roads, and so forth, that a 3 -acre lot size would not be feasible and could
not be afforded by the type of business he hoped to attract. Under a light indus-
trial zoning, a variance for this would be required. In reference to the park dedi-
cation, the developer felt cash -in -lieu of land would be appropriate. Mr. Heath
asked what would be done with the drainage ditch, and the developer indicated the
possibilities under consideration. Mr. Shearen felt the intended use of the land was
fine, although the details would have to be worked out. Data on 4th Avenue was needed;
Lillac Lane had been brought up to a 9 -ton road, and Highway 49 was an industrial -
type road. Copies of the plans should be sent to the Lexington Fire Department, to
determine if they had the capability for an industrial park. The developer had yet
to make some submissions to the engineer and planner on the things required for platting
(topography, etc). He asked to be put on the next P & Z agenda, and was told that
the submissions must be in ten days in advance of the meeting. A decision on the
zoning classification should be made, and the rezone application should accompany the
plat at that time.
The same developer presented a detailed sketch plan for the Wallen property, next on
the agenda. Mr. Gourley read the planner's letter. Twenty-seven lots were proposed
for 50 -acre area; the smallest lot was 1 acre, and the largest, 10 acres. Access
was on to Lake Drive. The Anoka County soil survey indicated some wet soils, and
development was restricted by permit for those areas. The planner's letter referred
to the dead-end street and suggested coordinating this with Nordeen Street in Pine
Oaks; if extended this would go into lot 14, a 10 -acre lot and largely swampy. The
developer was asked to indicate on the drawing where Nordeen Street would come in,
and also indicate some idea of how he would like to connect it. He felt there might
be a problem with adjacent property owners and easements. Urban Sewer District II
qualification needed to be looked into; Mr. Gourley noted that Sunset Oaks had had an
alternate plan for the possibility of sewer service coming in, and suggested the
developer consider doing the same. The planner's letter had recommended eliminating
direct access on to Lake Drive; land for a park dedication; and felt the land use
was consistant with the Comprehensive Plan; and that the commercial lots be rezoned
to R-1. However, the developer preferred to keep these commercial, and would inform
the buyers of the residential lots of their status. The Commission indicated they
were in the process of reviewing the commercial status along the highway. Lots 1 and
24 would be commercial, but the ones just behind them, partly commercial, the developer
would want to zone residential. Mr. Gourley read the engineer's letter, and Vi
Schwankl read the letter from Anoka County Highway Department. The right-of-way
should be 60 feet instead of the 40 feet shown, and driveway access on to Highway 23
was reviewed. Mr. Gourley thought covenants on the deed to control access would be
needed.
The next item on the agenda was the plat for Bloom's Addition, with Mr. Glenn Erickson
appearing for Mr. Bloom. The P & Z minutes from the July 18 minutes referring to this
were read. Mr. Gourley had contacted Mr. Gotwald on this situation. The number of
lots had been reduced from 7 to 5, and each lot was at least 1 acre in size, less pond
surface. There was some question as to what the Park Board wanted in the way of park
dedication. Mr. Gourley noted that when thedrawing was revised, the 60 -foot right-of-
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had been missed, and should be corrected. With the alteration of the lines, lot 1,
block 2 could be accepted as a little smaller than an acre. Mr Heath moved to recom-
mend that the Council accept theplat for Bloom's Addition with the change in the
one line from 55' to 60' from thecounty road and that they set a public hearing.
Mr. Shearen seconded the motion. All were in favor. Motion declared passed.
There was a note from the Clerk concerning Lyndol Nelson, which was read by Mr. Gourley.
There had been a variance request by Mr. Nelson at the June 20, 1979 meeting; due to
the builder's error, his house had been built close to or right on the lot line. Since
that time, the house on the adjacent lot had been built. This constituted a safety
hazard. The variance had been refused and it had been felt to be a builder problem.
The June 20 minutes in regard to this were read by Mr. Gourley. Mr. Mobley had not
followed the P & Z recommendation in regard to the house under construction adjacent
to Mr. Nelson's property. However, the setbacks on the second house were in order,
and there was no violation there. Mr. Gourley suggested the land be surveyed in order
to determine the exact position of Mr. Nelson's house, and have Mr. Locher, Mr. Nelson
and the neighbor come to an agreement as to the disposition of the property. However,
Mr. Shearen pointed out that the second homeowner could not be forced to sell a piece
of his property toMr.. Nelson in order to satisfy the setback requirements. The prob-
lem still remained with Mr. Nelson's property, which was in violation of the ordinance.
It was felt that Mr. Mobley should proceed with his job, which was to issue a red tag;
other than that, the P & Z felt it could take no action as it then became a problem
between the owner, Mr. Nelson, and the builder, Sussel Homes. Mr. Reinert moved that
the Chairman get hold of Mr. Mobley and tell him it was the opinion of this body that
he go out and tag, or whatever he has to do, at least pinpoint the problem, to the
initial home that was built in the wrong place or in violation. Mr. Heath seconded
the motion. All were in favor. Motion declared passed.
There was a letter from Mr. Locher available --an opinion on the Reshanau Estates
zoning. This was a matter of information only, and no action was necessary.
The next item on the agenda was the matter of Fran Burque's plat. The P & Z had
handled an item for Mr.:Burque contingent on his submitting a plat, which he had not
done. The Clerk had sent a letter to Mr. Burque on this, but there had been no
reply. Mr. Gourley read the letter. Mr. Shearen moved to table the matter until
the Commission had a request from Mr. Burque and recommended that if there was no
submission by the next meeting, he be billed for the park land dedication. Mr. Doocey
seconded the motion. All were in favor. Motion declared passed.
Mr. Reinert moved to adjourn at 12:10 a.m. Mr. Doocey seconded the motion. All were
in favor. Motion declared passed.