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Page 2 Planning and Zoning Commission October 10, 1979 �? be extended for Lino Lakes to be meaningfulii,n view of the layout of the city. The two principal arterials or freeways, in addition to the good minor arterials, served the purpose of, or substituted for the lack of intermediate arterials. County roads were intended.to serve normally as collectors, and were on a one -mile grid. Another criteria, land access, referred to the type of land, immediately adjacent .to the thoroughfare; for example, land along,the free- way would not have access to it other than through the whole system of road- ways. This became meaningful when reviewing subdivisions, asin the case of areas adjacent .to collectors or minor arterials,; where driveways should not back right on to the thoroughfare for reasons of safety and :function .of the roadway. It was preferable that they back on to local streets, which in turn fed into the arterial or collector —Mr. Short indicated that local streets would not be covered in depth as .it was difficult to plan these on a city-wide. scale. Another criteria, right-of-ways, generally became larger as the capacity of the roadway increased. Mr. Gotwald noted that ; Anoka County;was asking developers to dedicate a full 150-ft right-of-way, , and that the ,City had realized that developers who platted were being forced to give the additional land, whereas his neighbor with meets and bounds was boi.ng compensated for that additional land when the county made an improvement. Mr. Gourley indicated that the Councilhad recently taken action to not require that width any more, but to ;require a 100-ft setback from centerline to insure that 'fire county could expand. Mr. Gotwald felt this kind of situation could be handled with slope easements or ditch ease- ments rather than the large right-of-way. Mayor Karth indicated that the county had also requested 150 feet on Elm Street; the county's rationale for this was discussed and generally felt to be insufficient. Mrs Short noted that Elm St. was not even designated a collector in the Metro System, although it was a minor arterial in the 1974 county plan. He noted the county would be updating their system to be consistent with Metro, and :. there were some adjustments that would have to be made between the city, county and region. He recommended that in the meantime Elm Street be classified as as collector. In answer to a question, Mr. Short indicated that the city and county plans would not necessarily have to agree, but hopefully would; otherwise they would have to be negotiated out. Metro's major concern was principal and intermediate arterials, although they had an interest in any conflict between communities and would try to resolve it. Mr. Gotwald indicated that the City would be concerned with county desig- nations in cases where there was a direct impact on the local street system, particularly where development occurred, and where the City would want to limit the amount of acreage the county took in right-of-ways,ie., off the tax rolls. Mayor Karth indicated that according to the County Attorney's Office, there was no state statute which gave the county the authori+ty to take the land without going through condemnation proceedings; yet in this case the city would be liable rather than the county because it was the city that was enforcing the demand. Mr. Short reviewed someof the revisions to the 1974 plan. One,of the big- gest changes was that Anoka County had proposed Main Street be a.principal arterial, and that an: interchange occur between Main Street and 35-W. That plan had since been dropped. Mr. Short recommended that Main Street be classified as a minor arterial, which also had implications as far as the collector service roads that had been proposed to serve the properties ad- jacent to Main, and which would no longer be needed. Mr. Heath notedthis had been intended to serve the airport, which was not going to be built. Mr. Gotwald indicated that Main would have been constructed to freeway standards, yet with access not quite as limited, such as Highway 61 and 65.