10-05-2020 Council Work Session Minutes

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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION APPROVED 42 Planning and Zoning Board prior to this meeting would be helpful to him but generally 43 the timing doesn't allow that. Generally though he is concerned for the same reasons 44 he's heard from staff and the Planning & Zoning Board. 45 Councilmember Stoesz remarked that although this would be a PUD, he thinks mirroring 46 the R-2 district as they've done at NorthPointe is a positive. This doesn't appear to go in 47 that direction. 48 Councilmember Cavegn concurred that the 40 foot lot is not what the City is looking for. 49 Mayor Rafferty asked what is the public benefit to allowing a PUD in this case? He 50 doesn't like any of the concept plan presented. 51 Councilmember Lyden discussed the utility element and Ms. Larsen explained 52 improvements that would be required. 53 Steve Soltau, concept plan applicant, said they are here to listen. They have seen the 54 success of NorthPointe and are interested in extending that. They came up with the idea 55 of shifting density and have heard that the Planning and Zoning Board is not supportive. 56 They are wondering now if the council would be supportive of a compliant project. They 57 would like to look at options for the parcel they control. They have all but given up on 58 the 40 foot lots but any development will present challenges. They would still be looking 59 at a PUD but certainly with less sticking points. 60 Councilmember Stoesz remarked that the idea of apartments that aren't senior oriented 61 doesn't appeal to him and isn't what he envisioned. 62 Councilmember Lyden said he likes the idea of the senior element but also thinks mixed 63 age groups could be a positive. 64 Mayor Rafferty said he isn't big on the idea of an apartment complex either —doesn't fit 65 in that area. He's concerned out, getting away from 80 lots. 66 Community Development Director Grochala noted that there are different types of land 67 and guidance in the City. NorthPointe was all guided for medium -density. The 68 development came in 2011-12 and they wanted townhomes but with the recession they 69 originally pitched single family that would be R-2 under the City's requirements. 70 NorthPointe and the PUD was a compromise to the change from townhouses. 71 Councilmember Cavegn spoke to the limitations that he is seeing and while he's not very 72 familiar with the comp plan amendment process, the other stumbling blocks are 73 concerning. 74 The council and the mayor offered cormnents. 75- Larger lots areaway of life in Lino Lakes but also NorthPointe has been popular so the 76 mayor said he recognizes that is also what people want;