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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION DRAFT 177 Planner Larsen noted that staff is looking for some council consideration on what the City 178 would get for allowing a PUD project. The advisory boards did indicate some concern 179 about a lack of open space. 180 181 Comments: 182 - Councilmember Lyden likes the 13; 183 - Councilmember Ruhland would like as few variances from requirements as possible 184 while maintaining quality; probably can't have it all so some variance to be expected; 185 - Mayor Rafferty said he is looking at both the 13 and 20 unit proposal; he'd prefer to not 186 vary from City requirements; 187 - Public Safety Director Swenson said he cannot comment on the project without going 188 through an official process (a process which he feels yields the best result); 189 - Councilmember Stoesz said 13-20 is a good number to hit. 190 191 Mayor Rafferty indicated that this is still very much in a concept stage and the council has 192 offered comments. 193 5. Fire Apparatus — Public Safety Director Swenson and Deputy Director L'Allier 194 were present. Director Swenson noted previous council direction to get pricing on 195 replacement of two tenders. He introduced Wayde K i rvi da with Custom Fire who was 196 present to answer questions. Director Swenson also noted the assistance of the Finance 197 Director in preparing numbers for the report. Mr. Kirvida spoke about his experience in 198 the business and also about the new normal in the area of cost (price increases). There is 199 a massive amount of engineering that goes into these trucks and they do look for 200 engineering savings. Mr. Kirvida spoke about the difference of buying two trucks or 201 one. 202 203 In response to questions, Mr. Kirvida spoke to lead time and time of delivery (12 — 14 204 months normally). As far as bringing the cost down, he noted that there has already been 205 maneuvering so there isn't much room at this point. Mayor Rafferty noted 206 commitments on both sides of a transaction and he still wonders about timing; can he get 207 a guarantee of some type for the City's commitment of a contract. Mr. Kirvida said they 208 keep high expectations on their suppliers and they have not experienced failures for their 209 customers. Mr. Kirvida explained how the build process worked with the chassis 210 coming first and that being something of a guarantee that the product is on the way. 211 212 Councilmember Stoesz asked about buying one new unit and one chassis with the idea 213 that the second could possibility be improved. Deputy Chief L'Allier noted that 214 personnel are trained on the equipment so changes would make that more difficult; he 215 also noted the time already spent preparing the specifications. Also a discount is 216 currently being offered for purchasing two units and prices will be going up later this 217 month. 218 219 The council discussed financing. Finance Director Lynch said staff is recommending an 220 interfund loan which would be a part of a council action if this comes forward. When