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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION <br /> APPROVED <br /> 177 Planner Larsen noted that staff is looking for some council consideration on what the City <br /> 178 would get for allowing a PUD project. The advisory boards did indicate some concern <br /> 179 about a lack of open space. <br /> 180 <br /> 181 Comments: <br /> 182 - Councilmember Lyden likes the 13; <br /> 183 - Councilmember Ruhland would like as few variances from requirements as possible <br /> 184 while maintaining quality; probably can't have it all so some variance to be expected; <br /> 185 - Mayor Rafferty said he is looking at both the 13 and 20 unit proposal; he'd prefer to not <br /> 186 vary from City requirements; <br /> 187 - Public Safety Director Swenson said he cannot comment on the project without going <br /> 188 through an official process (a process which he feels yields the best result); <br /> 189 - Councilmember Stoesz said 13-20 is a good number to hit. <br /> 190 <br /> 191 Mayor Rafferty indicated that this is still very much in a concept stage and the council has <br /> 192 offered comments. <br /> 193 5. Fire Apparatus—Public Safety Director Swenson and Deputy Director L'Allier <br /> 194 were present. Director Swenson noted previous council direction to get pricing on <br /> 195 replacement of two tenders. He introduced Wayde Ki rvi da with Custom Fire who was <br /> 196 present to answer questions. Director Swenson also noted the assistance of the Finance <br /> 197 Director in preparing numbers for the report. Mr. Kirvida spoke about his experience in <br /> 198 the business and also about the new normal in the area of cost(price increases). There is <br /> 199 a massive amount of engineering that goes into these trucks and they do look for <br /> 200 engineering savings. Mr. Kirvida spoke about the difference of buying two trucks or <br /> 201 one. <br /> 202 <br /> 203 In response to questions, Mr. Kirvida spoke to lead time and time of delivery(12— 14 <br /> 204 months normally). As far as bringing the cost down, he noted that there has already been <br /> 205 maneuvering so there isn't much room at this point. Mayor Rafferty noted <br /> 206 commitments on both sides of a transaction and he still wonders about timing; can he get <br /> 207 a guarantee of some type for the City's commitment of a contract. Mr. Kirvida said they <br /> 208 keep high expectations on their suppliers and they have not experienced failures for their <br /> 209 customers. Mr. Kirvida explained how the build process worked with the chassis <br /> 210 coming first and that being something of a guarantee that the product is on the way. <br /> 211 <br /> 212 Councilmember Stoesz asked about buying one new unit and one chassis with the idea <br /> 213 that the second could possibility be improved. Deputy Chief L'Allier noted that <br /> 214 personnel are trained on the equipment so changes would make that more difficult; he <br /> 215 also noted the time already spent preparing the specifications. Also a discount is <br /> 216 currently being offered for purchasing two units and prices will be going up later this <br /> 217 month. <br /> 218 <br /> 219 The council discussed financing. Finance Director Lynch said staff is recommending an <br /> 220 interfund loan which would be a part of a council action if this comes forward. When <br /> 5 <br />