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COUNCIL MINUTES July 9, 2012 <br />DRAFT <br />224 navigable waterway. Council Member Roeser added that he does have concern about intended uses. • <br />225 Ms. Schwartz argued that Mr. Johnson's parcel did not exist at the time of the settlement. <br />226 <br />227 Council Member O'Donnell noted the hunting use that has been mentioned; that is covered by city <br />228 ordinance so it isn't pertinent to the cartway question. Attorney Snyder pointed out that the question <br />229 isn't personal hunting but rather professional guide hunting, a service that Mr. Johnson offers. <br />230 Regarding the settlement agreement, Council Member O'Donnell asked if there is an easement in <br />231 place? Attorney Langel responded that the settlement agreement hasn't been verified but it appears <br />232 there is an agreement in place; it has been suggested that the easement provided for in the settlement <br />233 has never been recorded however. <br />234 <br />235 Council Member Rafferty asked for a review of claimed damages versus the amount of use claimed <br />236 by Mr. Johnson. Mr. Snyder responded that statute directs consideration of damages and his clients <br />237 have followed an accepted process for appraisal by a professional appraiser. <br />238 <br />239 The mayor asked that the council discuss the threshold element — has the statutory threshold been <br />240 met? The council indicated that they have determined that the waterway is or could be navigable. <br />241 On location, it was verified that 293.7 feet is the length of the cartway requested to the nearest point <br />242 that access is possible (that is a straight line map measurement however and so the exact distance <br />243 hasn't actually been established — a point of entry has been established). It was pointed out that there <br />244 are metal stakes in the ground that would have to be removed. Attorney Langel noted that there is <br />245 also the question of dimension. Mr. Johnson said that statutes indicate a width of no less than 33 feet <br />246 and he'd prefer the area off the road to be 30 feet. Council Member Stoesz suggested that there may • <br />247 be some indication of size in the easement agreement and that in turn could be compared to the <br />248 request and perhaps used to assist with determining damages. Attorney Barnett asked about the <br />249 ability for Mr. Johnson to access the property for his work and measurement. <br />250 <br />251 The mayor suggested a discussion of damages and maintenance; what should be considered in that <br />252 discussion? Council Member O'Donnell remarked that the appraisal data submitted is for the full <br />253 length of Otter Lake Road. Attorney Snyder responded that the appraisal includes damages in gross <br />254 and net (including sub parts). Council Member Roeser suggested that if Mr. Johnson is granted use of <br />255 a private road, he should participate in the maintenance of the road. Mr. Johnson said he agreed in the <br />256 past to pay current and future maintenance. Council Member Roeser suggested sometimes it's the <br />257 fear of the unknown that cause issues or concerns; would Mr. Johnson be opposed to covenants or the <br />258 like attached to the situation that would calm fears. Mr. Johnson suggested that use isn't a <br />259 consideration in the cartway statute so he'd prefer not to add any conditions. The mayor indicated <br />260 that he would intend to somehow address uses and conditions as part of an action on the matter; the <br />261 city attorney clarified that the statute doesn't provide for such. Council Member Roeser suggested <br />262 that a property owner could certainly voluntarily accept conditions. <br />263 <br />264 Attorney Snyder reviewed his clients' position. He believes that this evening's review and discussion <br />265 clearly identifies this as an eminent domain related action and he doesn't believe that the city would <br />266 want to overstep current statute. There are other solutions besides this action to deal with the <br />267 disagreements between neighbors. Conditions or not the issue is imposition on the property owners' <br />268 rights. He recommends that the city call for a posting of a bond in the matter as would be called for ! <br />6 <br />