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Planning & Zoning Board <br />February 12, 2003 APPROVED MINUTES <br />Page 18 <br />cul-de-sac. He noted Carl St reet had two āSā turns, whic h he did not believe would be <br />appropriate for emergency vehicles. He noted traffic would increase drastically if Carl <br />Street was put in. <br />Mr. Olson noted when the cul-de-sac was instal led, the City retained a technical easement <br />from the main property line to the west to wh ere it hit Sunset. He noted that width was <br />30 feet or less and this was not large enough to build a 32 foot road that was required. He <br />noted the City did not have enough easement to put a road through and the traded off by <br />permitting this entire development. He stated the wetlands were established and this was <br />meant to be a permanent cul-de-sac. <br />Mr. Lyden made a MOTION to close the pub lic hearing at 8:03 p.m. The motion was <br />supported by Ms. Lane. Motion carried 6-0. <br />Chair Schaps asked how difficult would it be to build a road along the sod farms. Mr. <br />Johnson replied it would not be an impossibilit y. He noted they envi sioned a trail in that <br />area. He noted a road would impact the pond and/or the house. He asked if it paralleled <br />the power line, could the road share a power line easement. He noted he did not believe <br />it could. He noted one of the other problems was that the sod farm was not in the <br />Comprehensive Plan to be developed at any time in the near future. <br />Mr. Lyden stated the issue of Carl Street was that it was a nei ghborhood and it was his <br />position that they did not have the right to create a new neighborhood, while destroying <br />another neighborhood. He stated he did not believe emergency access had met the merit <br />to push Carl Street through. He asked staff if this was a viable plat with just a west <br />connection and if it was possible to look at something where it was viable to approve <br />Phase 1, 2 and maybe even 3 and look for th e other east/west connection which would <br />run north of Carl Street. Mr. Kirmis replie d his understanding was th at they wanted Carl <br />Street for emergency purposes. He noted an east/west connection n eeded to be provided <br />at some point. <br />Chair Schaps stated if the City was willi ng to wait until Phase 2, it would buy them some <br />time to add an east/west connection. He st ated he would like nothing done with Carl <br />Street right now and allow for the connecti on to made in the future, maybe depending <br />upon a number of things that might change i.e. emergency situation or there was not any <br />other connection that could be created. He s uggested the developer ge t in touch with the <br />sod farm owner to see what options they co uld work out with him to get an east/west <br />connection. He noted they needed to main tain as much flexibility as they could. <br />Mr. Corson asked if the City should look fo r a dedication for the street under the power <br />line if they needed it in the future. Mr. Grocha la noted they would need to dedicate it for <br />street and utility purposes a nd not parkland. He indicated the stub to the north would be <br />enough. He stated Carl Street connection wa s more important at the beginning of the <br />project. <br />Mr. Corson asked if there was a wetland to the north. Mr. J ohnson replied the only <br />problem would be the houses off of Fourth. He noted where the trail was now, if they
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