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• <br />Planning & Zoning Board <br />October 13, 2004 <br />Page 15 <br />commercial or residential property and the Board could make the determination if certain <br />signs should be banned from certain properties. <br />Mr. Root asked if there was a reason they could not limit total temporary signage to no <br />more than 32 square feet and have a timeline for the sign to be out. <br />Chair Rafferty stated Mr. Root's suggestion was fine, except when it came to <br />construction signs. He stated this issue would come up soon with the development by <br />City Hall. <br />Mr. Laden asked how long could a sign be up before it was considered a permanent sign. <br />Mr. Pogalz stated at a previous meeting a business had indicated they needed the <br />temporary signage for their profitability and he was concerned if the City cut into the <br />profitability of a business, a lawsuit could be the result. Mr. Tralle pointed out staff had <br />not been able to verify that these temporary signs cut into the profitability of a business. <br />Chair Rafferty suggested for next month they take three signs out of this packet and <br />discuss those, starting with the construction signs, subdivision signs, and subdivision <br />directional development signs. Mr. Laden stated he believed these three types of signs <br />were the same. <br />Mr. Pogalz stated until it as brought up on this Board, he never paid much attention to the <br />fact that there were so many signs in the City and he was not sure how to approach this <br />yet. <br />Mr. Hyden stated he wanted to nail down a goal each time so they were moving forward. <br />He stated he did not want to discuss this at every meeting with no conclusions being <br />reached. <br />Chair Rafferty stated he did not know what was the best direction to go, but he would like <br />to get this behind them. He stated he wanted to get to the root of the problem and make <br />this easy to regulate. <br />Mr. Hyden stated he understood what brought this on was the use of banners in the City <br />and the City was looking for direction on how to enforce use of banners, but now they <br />needed to look at all temporary signage. <br />Mr. Tralle stated he wanted to tackle the banners and not construction signs because these <br />were already defined. He stated banners and signs on posts were the biggest problems for <br />him. <br />Mr. Root stated he wanted to pick a sign and discuss it and take this in small chunks, but <br />he agreed they should begin with a discussion on banner signs first. <br />Chair Rafferty asked if they could agree to discuss banners at the next meeting. Mr. <br />Bengston suggested the Board members look at the sign definitions over the next month <br />and if they were defined and the members agreed with the definition, then they did not <br />DRAFT MINUTES <br />