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PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MEETING
APRIL 13, 1994
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES
I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Al Robinson moved and was supported by
John Landers to approve the minutes of the March 9, 1994
meeting as submitted. All voted aye. Motion carried.
Ed Schones congratulated Jame Schaps on his reelection to
chairman.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Al Robinson stated that he had an item to
add under "Discussion ".
III. OPEN MIKE: No one was present to speak under Open Mike:
IV. ACTION ITEMS:
A. 94 -8 -C, D. Kastner, 154 Pine St., CUP Kennel License
Planning Coordinator Wyland reviewed this request which is to
allow a Kennel License for four dogs at 154 Pine Street. She
explained that the license request was the result of a
complaint involving the attack of a passing dog. Since the
complaint was initiated the subject dogs have been contained
within a building waiting for the frost to leave the ground to
the allow the installation of an invisible fence. Staff has
recommended approval with the condition that should the
invisible fence fail the applicant be required to install a
suitable rigid fence.
Chairman Schaps opened the Public Hearing.
Al Robinson advised the Board that it was his grandchild's dog
that was attacked while walking with the grandchild along Pine
Street. He had no objections to the proposed request but
questioned the effectiveness of an invisible fence.
Jame Schaps stated that some of his friends have tried the
invisible fence and it was not effective with older dogs.
Mr. Kastner's representative, Joan Falkers, stated that they
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had been advised that the fence would work on their dogs. She
also indicated that they were willing to try it and if it is
not effective, replace it.
Tom Mesich stated that the effectiveness of an invisible fence
depends on the psyche of the dog, its tolerance for pain, and
its "want" to run. He felt it would be a bad precedent to say
that an invisible fence is a fence. A cyclone fence would be
more effective in this case. He added that the existing Dog
Ordinance is vague and that extensive work has been done on
revising the ordinance which has been presented to staff for
further review and adoption.
Ed Schones stated that dogs should be able to run on their own
property. He also had reservations regarding this request due
to the attack previously mentioned and was not familiar enough
with the effectiveness of the invisible fence.
Ms. Falkers neighbor was present and indicated that her
children play with the Kastner dogs and have had no problems
with them. She would support the proposed invisible fence.
After some discussion Al Robinson made a motion recommending
approval of the kennel license with the following conditions:
1. The Invisible Fence must be installed by June 1, 1994.
2. The Permit shall expire in 12 months and must then be
reviewed and renewed, if so recommended, by the City.
3. After receipt of complaints concerning the effectiveness of
the invisible fence the CSO Officer shall instruct the owners
to install a rigid fence within 20 days and the dogs shall be
immediately contained within a structure.
Tom Mesich seconded the motion. On roll call:
Ayes: Robinson, Gelbmann, Schaps, Nordine, Landers,
Mesich
Nays: Schones
Motion carried
B. 94 -9 -P & 94 -10 -Z, Subdivision and Rezoning from R to R -1X
for Randy Rehbein Property, 1585 Birch Street, PUBLIC HEARING
Planning Consultant Brixius reviewed this item which is a
request to divide 2.96 acres into 4 single family lots and
rezone the site from Rural to R -1X. Three of the proposed
lots would front on the new Sherman Lake Road and become a
part of the Pheasant Hills Preserve Development. The fourth
lot contains an existing dwelling and fronts on Birch Street.
Sewer and water services are available for the three lots on
Sherman Lake Road, but not the property on Birch Street.
Mr. Brixius reviewed the Judgement Criteria regarding the
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Rezoning and the preliminary plat and recommended approval
with the conditions outlined in the report dated April 7,
1994.
Mr. Landers asked why the proposed mitigation on the wetlands
was 1:1 when the new rules require 2:1 mitigation. Staff
advised that the mitigation plan had been approved by the
Watershed District prior to the new rules being in effect and
added that criteria to determine replacement also involves
types of wetland being filled and created. The wetland being
filled, in this case, is a degraded wetland along the side of
Sherman Lake Road. The wetland to be created will be of a
higher quality than that replaced. Mr. Landers was also
advised, in response to his question, that the property was
located within the MUSA Boundary.
Mr. Schones asked why the zoning was proposed to be R -1X
rather than R -1 and if that would have an impact on the
wetland replacement. After some discussion he was advised
that Pheasant Hills Preserve is Zoned R -1X and that the zoning
does not have any effect on the mitigation or wetland
replacement plan as far as the Watershed District is
concerned.
Mr. Mesich expressed concern about the installation of silt
fence during development and was advised that the property is
being sold to Contractor Developer Properties who are
developing the balance of Pheasant Hills and that they would
be required to sign a Development Agreement and post financial
guarantees to insure proper development including erosion
control.
There was some discussion regarding the location of the
transportation trail. Ed Hasek, representing the Developer,
indicated that they are working with the County to locate the
trail within County right of way. The location of the trail
in the right of way would be an acceptable alternative to the
Park Board and is common practice along Birch Street.
After further discussion Mr. Schones moved and was supported
by Mr. Robinson to approve the Rezoning from R to R -1X and the
Preliminary Plat as submitted with the conditions outlined in
the Staff Report dated April 7, 1994. All voted aye. Motion
carried.
C. 94 -11 -P, Trappers Crossing, Holly Drive & 12 Avenue,
Preliminary Plat, PUBLIC HEARING
Planning Consultant Brixius reviewed this item which involves
the platting of 72.4 acres into approximately 127 single
family lots with a Planned Development Overlay to provide some
flexibility in lot width, depth and /or square foot area. The
overall density of the proposal is 1.72 units /acre. Mr.
Brixius explained that there are several items which must be
addressed regarding this proposed plat and it is recommended
that the item be continued until the May 11, 1994 meeting to
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allow the developer time to modify his proposal.
Mr. Brixius briefly reviewed the history of this property and
explained that in 1981 the Comprehensive Plan indicated the
site as Rural and Expansion Residential. The 1987
Comprehensive Plan amended the MUSA Boundaries and indicated
the property north of Holly and west of 12th Avenue as urban
residential. Beginning in 1989 through 1990 the City was
involved in a Comprehensive Plan amendment to enlarge the
City's MUSA. The area south of Holly Street was then brought
within the MUSA. Public hearings on this amendment were held
by the Council in July of '89 and December of '90. The plan
was reviewed by several advisory boards and the Council
officially closed the public hearing in December of 1990. The
Metro Council approved the plan in March of 1991 and the City
worked to fulfill the conditions of the Metro Council's
approval and formally adopted the Plan in June of 1992. In
August of 1992 the City amended the Zoning Map, after public
hearings, to reflect the new land use changes and Metro
Council recommendations that certain zoning districts be
eliminated. Finally, in February of 1994, the Council rezoned
the subject property from R -1 Residential to R -1X. The City
Attorney has reviewed the historical account of the property
in regards to the comprehensive plan revisions and rezonings
and has stated "that there has been no improper actions on
the part of the City under State Statute and local ordinances
and that the current zoning classification of R -1X is proper ".
John Landers stated that there is a question pertaining to the
rezoning of the property from Rural to R -1. He stated that he
had looked through the minute books from March of '87 through
'88 and found nothing relating to a change from Rural to R -1.
Tom Mesich stated that he thinks the P & Z has enough
direction indicating that the zoning was done properly. "I do
not think it is our place to insinuate that this was not the
case ". As far as the P & Z is concerned, we are working off
the Official Zoning Map and should not let this other issue
direct us.
Chairman Schaps stated that he agreed with Mr. Mesich. Map
rezoning is covered under State Statutes, we have asked the
staff for direction and received it, and the City Attorney has
advised that the zoning is legal.
CITIZEN COMMENT:
Sue Walseth, 1101 Holly Drive, stated that she has been a
resident for nine years and her comments are coming from her
heart. She feels that she is losing the use of her property
and will no longer fit in with the neighborhood. When the
property was changed from Rural to R -1 she did not receive a
notice and when her land was added to the MUSA, although she
objected, the designation was changed anyway. She was
originally told this plat would consist of 90 large lots.
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Additional comments included the following:
- Would like 10 acre parcel zoning returned to the area.
- Holly Drive extended to Centerville Road
- An evergreen buffer installed between her parcel and the
development on the north and east sides.
- No variances for anything less than R -1X lots.
- No road abutting her property on the north side.
Mr. Al DeMotts of 6265 Holly Drive had the following questions
in response to the request:
- Where does the water run -off go.
- What happens to the land on the west side of Holly. Who
will pay the taxes or will it become tax - forfeit property
- Where was the land surveyed from.
- P & Z members in other communities tell me you should
get business development before homes. We are way ahead
in homes.
- Will the run -off go into the wetlands.
- Can the City send out a survey to find out what the
people think of more development.
- The groundwater will go under Holly Drive.
- There was no add in the Circulating Pines for this
request (Staff checked this item and proper notification
was made 10 days prior to the meeting as required by the
Zoning Ordinance).
- Who will pay for the schools.
-How big are the lots.
Tom Mesich asked Mr. DeMotts if he was aware of the change
from Rural to R -1. Mr. DeMotts stated that he had not
received any notice. He was also unaware of the Comprehensive
Plan Amendments.
John Dahl of Holly Court stated that he owns approximately 11
1/2 acres south of this proposed development and has lived
there since 1990. He would like to see a buffer between his
property and the development and asked if there was some such
provision in the Ordinance. Planning Consultant Brixius
explained that the lots proposed to abut his are very deep.
He questioned the surface drainage and run -off. Mr. Weigert,
the developers engineer, explained that according to City
Code, they must demonstrate that the surface water run -off
from the development will be no greater after development than
it was prior to development. The actual flow off the site
will not be increased.
Mr. Mesich asked if he had checked with City Hall before
purchasing the property. Mr. Dahl indicated that his wife had
come up to City Hall and was told that the area was Zoned
Rural.
Mark Payette, 6266 Holly Drive, was present and stated that he
had moved into the area in 1985 because it was Zoned Rural.
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He indicated his frustration in not being able to determine
when the property went from Rural to R -1. He further stated
that he appreciated the work Mr. Landers had done in
researching the minutes.
Carolyn Dahl of Holly Court was present and state that when
they built their home in '90/91 she went to the City and asked
if there were any plans for the area. She was told the
property was Zoned Rural and that there were no plans for
development. In less than six months the property to the
north changed from Rural to R -1 - she would like to see it
remain Rural. She asked what is the procedure for getting
into the MUSA. The City needs a balance of housing and some
areas should remain rural. If this development goes in, an
additional outlet is needed for Holly Drive - Holly Drive
East. She added that she would like to see some proof that the
property was properly rezoned from Rural to R -1.
Chris Lydeen of Holly Drive provided a map of the proposed
plat indicating several lots not conforming to the R -1X
standard. He indicated concerns about open space and park
dedication and stated that he would like to see more open area
in the plat. He questioned the rezoning from Rural to R -1 and
thanked John Landers for his efforts in researching the
matter. He stated that he had checked on the rezoning with
the Quad Press and found some poor copies of maps of the area.
He questioned when the area south of Holly went to R -1. He
stated that Holly Drive east "obviously" needs to be extended.
He questioned where the sewer /water would come from and would
12th Avenue have to be dug up again. He stated that he has
lived on Holly Drive since 1992.
Charles McKenna, property owner on East Holly Drive, was
present to voice his objection to the extension of Holly
Drive. He has lived in the area since 1979 and there was no
road there. The property owners along East Holly have 5, 10,
and 20 acre parcels. After 15 years - now you want to put a
road on the back of my property. He stated that there is no
road easement on the back of his property and he does not want
a road forced on him. He indicated that an alternative would
be to rezone the area for 5 or 10 acre lots.
Al Klemic of 1390 Karth Road stated that he has lived in the
area since 1981. He is opposed to the opening of Holly Drive
East. He stated that he does not want to see any tax money
spent on this roadway.
Carolyn Dahl read a letter from the City Attorney written in
1985 indicating that the City may have right of way for east
Holly Drive even if the roadway has not been maintained.
Ruth Sepanin of Holly Drive presented a petition requesting
that Holly Drive be extended to the east and statements from
10 people indicating that they remember when you could get
from Holly Drive east to Holly Drive west.
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Paul Behr of Karth Road stated that his property line ends
before the road begins. The pond is on his property - not the
road. Furthermore, the road has not been used as a road since
before 1981. It is in Cedar Lake.
Jeanne Cummings, daughter of Mrs. Whitcomb, stated that they
have farmed the property since 1971. Mrs. Whitcomb decided it
was time to sell the property so they sought developers. They
have lost over 14 acres to wetlands. The lots proposed will
be over 3/4 of an acre which is larger than required in an R-
1X District. The land is valuable and people knew it was not
going to stay rural forever. In response to a previous
question by Mr. DeMotts, she indicated that they still own the
property on the west side of Holly Drive and have no plans for
it at this time.
Al Strommen of 6177 Holly Drive indicated that he has lived
there since 1979 and the rezoning was a shock to him. There
was no notification that he was aware of.
Additional comments were received.
Kirk Corson, representing Hokanson Development, explained that
the original parcel contained 120 acres but due to wetland
constraints their purchase included only 85. He indicated
that a lot of the wetland is Type I and II and will most
likely end up being mowed and considered yard by property
owners.
MOTION: Al Robinson made a motion to continue the Public
Hearing to the May 11, 1994 meeting of the Planning & Zoning
Board. Tom Mesich seconded the motion. All voted aye.
Motion carried.
In response to the extension of Holly Drive East, City
Engineer Schneider stated that the City probably has the ROW
for the roadway, but that is not the problem. The City
Charter would prohibit us from just building the road.
Adjoining property owners would have to agree to pay for the
improvement. This could be a million dollar project. Wetland
constraints are an additional problem.
Al Robinson stated that in the '40's & 50's this roadway was
barely passible.
Mr. Schneider further explained that adjoining property owners
will not be assessed for any sewer and water or road
improvements to 12th Avenue and Holly Drive West as a result
of this proposed development.
In response to an earlier concern, both Mr. Mesich and Mr.
Robinson indicated that they would like to see a buffer
between the rural area and the R -1X area.
The audience was advised that the developer will be presenting
a revised plan, meeting with the Park Board on May 2nd, and
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returning to the P & Z on May llth with revisions.
VI. DISCUSSION:
A. DRAINAGE: Al Robinson stated that there appears to be a
problem in new developments with drainage easements. He
suggested that before occupancy a final grade inspection is
done. Darrell explained that we do require certificates of
survey with new homes indicating drainage patterns. Staff has
discussed installation of "green tops ", survey markers
indicating final grade points and has adopted a policy of not
issuing any fence permits on drainage easements with certain
conditions present.
B. EDAB - Al Robinson reported that things are beginning to
happen in regard to Economic Development. Brian Wessel is
working on several proposals. The 49/23 Project has been
funded and will be initiated in July.
VII. ADJOURNMENT: Upon the unanimous consent of the Board the
meeting was adjourned at 9:55 P.M.
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