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• <br />• <br />• <br />ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD MEETING JULY 28, 2004 <br />Asleson stated the concern was the management of those areas. He admitted that <br />the City was obtaining the greenways, but noted the trail would be public. An <br />advantage would be the association would know they would continue to have the <br />scenery. A second advantage would be that it would reduce the amount of stoim <br />sewers for the developer. <br />Grundhofer requested that both plans be held up side by side for the Board. The <br />Board briefly discussed the contrasts. <br />O'Connell noted that with the Conservation District, not all the lots would be the <br />same size. Mr. Black responded he was not rejecting the entire idea, and that <br />some ideas could be incorporated. He expressed concern about the homeowners' <br />association managing the open space. He applauded the City's intention, but was <br />concerned about the City testing their idea on him. He had intended to build on <br />the upland areas and to create a quality neighborhood. The things that were <br />suggested went against what he knew. The City could not merely take land. They <br />had to consider the implementation. He stated the City was on to something, but <br />that it had to be within the City requirements. <br />Bor stated that the value of the property would be expressed as the City became <br />more developed. As it went forth, it would bring change to the coding and other <br />areas. Asleson agreed. He was concerned with the plans in terms of the high <br />water table. People say there needed to be a separation between the water table <br />and the bottom of the NURP ponds. He cautioned that in five years the ponds <br />between the houses would not function properly. Staff noted the State considered <br />the Southern portion of the site to be of outstanding value with unique resources. <br />They had high ecological value. A goal in the 2020 Vision was that "no unique <br />resources should be lost." He recommended more of a buffer for that area. <br />Mr. Black stated that he had a 50 acre parcel, and had done the appropriate work. <br />He agreed to attend the meetings. <br />Asleson indicated he believed that the plan would not work. Mr. Black responded <br />that his engineers assured him the plan would work. <br />Asleson noted that the plan was going to go to Planning and Zoning Board. He <br />reminded the Board that they had received incomplete information. He gave the <br />example of Mr. Quigley's Clearwater Creek with all the meetings he attended, and <br />the lots became more valuable. Staff stated only the landowner knew the value of <br />his own work. <br />Mr. Black indicated he needed specific recommendations, and believed he was <br />being used for new ideas. Bor answered that what the Board was recommending <br />was not far off from his own plan. The example of buffering was worth trying, <br />given the value of the land. <br />3 DRAFT MINUTES <br />