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182 suited. He asked if the legal opinion given on August 22, 1979 has changed? He felt it is a question of whether the laws of the State of Minnesota are being violated. He also said he has never appeared before any Council on a issue such as this with- out any facts. He said the home owners have been asking for answers for two years and have not received any facts to rebutt. He asked for a continuance of this Council meeting for 22 weeks in order to gather these facts. Mr. Hook said there has not been an application filed with the DNR or RCWB. He asked that this plat be submitted to these Boards and then considered by this Council. Mr. Hook said he would recommend this be sent back to the Planning add Zoning Board and wait for the information for all the Boards and then let that Board make a determination on its merits then forward to the Council and let this Council make a determination on i3e merits. He said he didn't think that was too much to ask. Mr. Paul DeNuccio, of E. Shadow Lake Drive, asked to speak and said he had been here at least 20 times and had gone through the process of getting this project shut down only to have it resurrected. There are a number of issues that never have been re- solved on this thing - there are some very cloudy legal background as to whether or not this use of this land is permissible at all. We seemed to have had a dictorial statement that says 'forget about what the Ordinances in the City are, lets just forge ahead on this.' Secondly, weave got a density problem that no one has ever tried to wrestle with - we've just seen a type of density that's totally inconsistent with what is out there, and it just knocks off one and comes back a year later and ex- pects to get it passed. You're gonna put four times as much concrete and houses out there on a space basis per use of land as what's out there right now. You're gonna change what is primarily a single family neighborhood into something that is dominate - ly a multi - family neighborhood because what's going in there now is gonna far over- shadow the living situation that's there right now. There a lot of concerns in terms of drainage and there's a water problem out there. It's nice to talk about things being checked later but when the water's 6 inches from your basement and the lake level, as it's been in the past for me, you think a little more seriously than saying 'let's pass dt on and check it out later.' The plan, what happened to the plan, Mr. Gourley that you worked 'on for two years when you were on the Planning and Zoning Board, was approved by this Council, and this development is inconsistent with the long range plan of this community. And it's not just putting in a couple of buildings, you're talking about one of the major developments of this kind in the Northern part of the Twin Cities Metro Area. All these reasons - never been answered - just shoved aside and it's kinda like, 'that's OK, we'll take care of it.' So, I just want to reiterate my indignation that the input of the people in Lino Lakes seems to take the backseat to the input of the 'powers that be behind the scenes, in this in- stance.' Mr. Blackbird said if there were any questions as to their compliance with RCWB, Mr. Mollanaro is working with that Board on comprehensive study of Lakes Add. #6 & #7. Mr. Larry Johnson, the density problem has been thrown around quite a bit. Most quad - reminium plats there are not considered unless they have acreage and the bedroom units proposed. The density is figured on the bedroom area. Mr. Blackbird has said the den- sity is the same whether the units have two bedrooms or four bedrooms. Shoreview did a study and two bedroom units have approximately 3.3 people; 3 bedroom unit has 4 people on the average in the Twin City area. That's what they use for density. As- suming that one half of these units are two bedroom and half are three bedrooms, on the 22 acres,and taking away the two acres for ponding, this plat is down to 20 acres, he computed over 350 people on 20 acres of land and he felt this is one reason this was denied by the Planning and Zoning Board. Mr. Theimich read the petition for the record; We, the undersigned residents of Lino Lakes oppose the quadreminiums project of Mr. El Rehbein's desire to construct