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11/22/71 127 called to order at 10 :05 P.M. The property concerned was Outlot K of Lakes Add'n. No. 2, to be known as Chamonix South. Mr. Locher read the notices, noting publication of the hearing notice on November 4th, posting on November 4th, and mailing of notices on November 5th. He read the-names of those to whom the notices were mailed, and stated that the affidavits were all in order and the notices timely. Mr. Cardinal stated that a discussion on the square footage of the various residential units had ensued at the P&Z hearing, and the matter had been tabled, until the ordinance was clarified. Mr. Locher stated that he had talked with Mr. Van Housen on November 19th, and that Mr. Van Housen wanted•to see the unit plans first. He had suggested not amending the ordinance, but allowing a variance. Mr. Locher stated that "footage" means "living room ". Mr. Van Housen had felt that changing the ordinance might allow unsubstantial buildings. Otherwise, there was no problem with the plat. Crystal Ahlman stated that she sew two problems with the plat, namely the road size which our Village says must be 66 feet wide and the square footage of the units. Mr. Cardinal stated that these roads would be private. Mr. Gotwald stated that dedicated roads must be 60 feet wide; however, in trailer parks, P. U.D.'s, etc. any safe width from 24 -30' is eooeptable since the roads are not public. Mr. Gotwald noted oleo that the surface of dedicated roads is usually 30 feet, but there is a 60 foot easement. Crystal stated that she had checked the blaoktopped roads in Chamonix and they were no 60 feet. Mr. Gotwald stated that the only blaoktopped road near Chamonix is old 7th Avenue which was 24 feet wide, and that such existing roads are only eurfaoed to their existing width. He stated that Main Street had only 24 feet of surface. The roads in this plat will not be dedicated. Mr. L'Allier stated that the specific floor plans would be gotten to Mr. Van Housen. The Clerk noted that U. S. Lakes had requested a variance to the zoning code and made payment of $25.00. Don Waalen stated that he had obtained copies of the zoning oode since the P&Z meeting and that he felt that the requirement of 1150 square feet for a 2 bedroom townhouse unit was inconsistent when a R -1 house has a minimum of 880 square feet. He wished to ask for a variance to the townhouse zoning to allow units of 780-square feet and thus allow them to proceed with the plans as presented at the last Council meeting. He also wished to get building permits for 2 model homes. Mrs. Gould wished to know how this discrepancy in the building node was allowed to happen, considering the hearings on the code. She didn't feel that U. S. Lakes should be allowed to•build differenty from-the zoning code. She also felt that builders should be given the minimum size of lots and houses. There was discussion. Mrs. Gould mentioned a previous meeting when someone had noted that Jandrio was building oraokerboxes in other locations and asked if we had looked into this. She stated that we should put teeth in the code and allow no variation.- Mr. L'Allier noted that we had given 4 variances already this evening and that it was not unreasonable to deviate. Also, that the reason builders are required'to submit a preliminary plat is so that changes and corrections can be made and variances granted if the Council is so inclined. Crystal asked about the townhouses as to size and how many were built. Mr. Dielentheis stated that they had put up none of these units yet, but similar modeli were under construction in Eagen Township this week. He noted that the units were larger in the townhouse models built in Lakes No. 1, that these had been priced to market at $39- 51,000, ranged from 1400 -2200 square feet in size, had many amenities, but did not sell. The units now proposed are being built throughout the metro area, and the sizes are oompatable with the rest in the Metro area. He stated that they couldn't market any units if they were not oompatable with others. He mentioned several other townhouse developments presently selling which had sires very close to these proposed.