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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/23/1977 Council Minutes21 9 February 23, 1977 The special meeting of the Lino Lakes City Council was called to order at 7:50 P.M. on February 23, 1977 by Mayor Bohjanen. Council members present; Karth, McLean, Schneider. Absent; Zelinka. Mr. Gotwald, Mr. Locher and Mr. Short were also present. Mr. Gourley, Planning and Zoning Board Chairman was also present. Mr. Lee Starr, Mr. John Hoeft, and Mr. Bob Ranta were present as staff representatives of the Physical Development Committee of the Metropolitan Council. Mayor Bohjanen said the purpose of this meeting is to clear some of the points of contentions in the City's package presented to the Physical Development Committee on February 17, 1977. Mayor Bohjanen turned the meeting over to Mr. McLean who had worked very closely with the preparation of this material. Mr. McLean said the purpose of this meeting was to make clear the intent of the material submitted to the Physical Development Committee. He felt the Committee should be made to understand this material is intended to conform to the City of Lino Lakes Resolution in conjunction with the installation of the interceptor and to upgrade the City's Comprehensive Land Use Plan at the same time. The mater- ial submitted paralleled the Resolution as passed by this City. Mr. Locher said in Number three of the Resolution stated the City will define an Urban Service Area. This has been done_ and the staged development has also been indicated in both Urban service area #I and #2. Area #I concerns the development in the Country Lakes area, Shenandoah and the Baldwin Lake Trailer Court. Area #2 is the Lexington Park Lakeview area which the Committee says cannot be consid- ered at this time because the reserved capacity in the Blaine interceptor is not allocated to the City of Lino Lakes. Mr. Locher said that capacity is there and was set aside at the time of design for the City of Lino Lakes and this matter would be contested if the reserved capacity was allocated to another community. The request for the allocation to be staged over a fifteen year period has been done in increments. The rural service area encompasses the remainder of the City which has been divided into three areas; Ag. #I, Ag. #2, and Rural Residential. Mr. Locher explained the restrictive soils Ordinance and the septic system regulations that are to be considered in relation to this area. The Physical Development Staff had asked for a definition of the problem areas now existing. Mr. Short explained that the City has no records that could document the problem areas. The City is proposing to set up a record keeping system that would define those areas with septic system problems. This system was discussed and explained. Mr. McLean asked if the recommendations of the staff was bounced against the City's Resolution or against the Metropolitan Council demands? Mr. Starr said both was used, but the emphasis had been placed on the Metropolitan requirements. Mr. Starr said in approving the interceptor, the Metropolitan Council had three areas of concern; 1) inpact on serving just the existing homes. 2)the Blaine in- terceptor; 3) service to existing development meant'land platted or just the exist- ing homes'. Mr. Locher added the determination as to annual pumping and monitor- ing septic systems. Number 1, presents no problems; on number 2, Mr. Starr said the City would need to conform to the Land Use Act and prepare an interim comprehensive sewer plan. Mr. Starr said the map as prepared by Gotwald was pretty much sufficient. 1 1 4 A t February 23, 1977 Mr. Ranta reminded the Council the System Statement is due by July I, 1977. He would like to meet with the Committee in order to resolve what ever differences there may be. Mr. McLean suggested a meeting some time next week since there are differences of opinion in the area of Open Space and also on the projected popul- ation figures. On number #3, Mr. Locher's understanding was that all lots platted were included. If only the number of homes connected to sewers as of September 29, 1976 is to be considered, then the homes in Shenandoah cannot be considered. There were no hook- ups in Shenandoah at that time. Also, there is a bond issue with an outstanding balance of $140,000.00 due over a four year period. If the lots are not sold and developed, the City will be unable to meet the principal and interest payments and will thus default on the bond issue. The lines in Shenandoah were put in at the developer's expense, but, here again, this man cannot be expected to have this much money tied up without expecting some return. Mr. Locher pointed out the City has prepared and submitted a comprehensive sewer plan that has neither been accepted or rejected. This was done four years ago. In discussing this matter, Mr. Starr asked for a map showing the platted lots that could be hooked into the system, both in Shenandoah and Country Lakes. Mr. Gotwald will prepare these maps. It was the general consensus of the Council that the original intent of the interceptor was to serve the existing platted land and the potential lots to a maximum of 700 homes, this figure is there and should not be a part of these discussions. Mr. Starr said he would send the City's package to the Physical Development Committee and also tonights discussions. Mr. Gotwald felt it important to make clear there is no way development can be locked in. He said the interceptor would have many maintenance problems with just the few homes now existing hooked in. The Blaine interceptor serving the Lakeview area was discussed. The City's posit- ion on that had been discussed previously. It was made clear to the staff members that no one had asked for the interceptor to be extended. The cost of getting to the interceptor had been computed in the overall cost of the proposal for the Lake- view area. This had not been understood by Metro. Mr. Starr said this presented a different picture. There was discussion of documenting potential problem areas. The Council had pro- posed documenting the areas by keeping records on pumping. The staff would like a map with a general outline of the potential problem areas. This can be done, but not documentation as to individuals. The density figures for the varuous service areas was discussed. It was felt the proposed 22 acre figure for rural residential was not acceptable. There was also objections to the City's aversion to adopting zoning ordinances defining urban and rural service areas. Mr. Starr asked if the guidelines were enough control and Mr. McLean felt that with the soils map and ordinance and the septic system ordinance, the controls were there. III One area of objections, was the sever soils (marginal) usage without a permit. The Council had no problems with this requrement. They felt that requiring a permit for this type of soil could be done. The proposals for controlling septic system problems was discussed. The staff felt the City should adopt an ordinance that requires pumping every two years February 23, 1977 and annual monitoring. Mr. Locher asked why they are asking this City to adopt an ordinance to conform to a proposal that is not even law yet? No one else in the seven county area is being asked to conform to the WPC40 suggested rules and regulations. There was discussion on the ways and means of trying to enforce such a law. A septic system cannot be properly inspected without being dug up and people will not do this. This will be a point to be heard by thePhysical Development Committee. Mr. McLean moved to authorize Mr. Gotwald, Mr. Locher and Mr. Short to prepare all necessary documents. Seconded by Mr. Karth. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. McLean moved to adjourn at 11:00 P.M. Seconded by Mr. Karth. Motion carried unanimously.. These minutes were corrected Ella pproved a the February 28,/ 1977 regular scheduled Council meeting. , CLERK - TREASURER