HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/06/2002 Council MinutesCITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MARCH 6, 2002
DATE
TIME STARTED
TIME ENDED
MEMBERS PRESENT
MEMBERS ABSENT
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
: March 6, 2002
. 5:30 p.m.
. 9:10 p.m.
: Council Member Dahl, Carlson,
Reinert and Mayor Bergeson
: O'Donnell
Staff members present: City Administrator, Linda Waite Smi
Studenski; Economic Development Assistant, Mary Alice D'vi
Dave Pecchia (part); Community Development Director,
Jeff Smyser; Environmental Specialist, Marty Asleson
(part)
neer, Jim
Chief of Police,
rochala; City Planner,
City Clerk, Ann Blair
UPDATE ON FIVE-YEAR FINANCIAL P: • YOR BERGESON
Mayor Bergeson advised a memo was in
memo indicated Finance has received th
needs and other major impacts on th
process of preparing a first draft of
review with the Directors and
through the draft to review o
the term of the plan. A revis
at the Council work
packets regarding this item. The
tors' projections for staff and capital
r the coming five years and is in the
ear Plan. The first draft will be ready for
by the week of March 18. Staff will work
d to assess tax and revenue impacts over
11 be prepared following this review for discussion
Staff's goal is to have th ` we -Year Plan completed and adopted at the April 8 meeting,
prior to the joint City Co q Charter Commission meeting scheduled for April 11.
VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, MICHAEL GROCHALA, MARY
ALICE DIVINE
Economic Development Assistant Divine stated the Beard Group, a real estate
development firm, has indicated an interest in acting as master developer of the Village
project. The group has experience in mixed-use redevelopment in Robbinsdale, Hopkins,
Sauk Rapids and Oakdale. They are also the proposed master developers for the
redevelopment project in downtown Circle Pines.
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Economic Development Assistant Divine continued, stating a draft of the preliminary
agreement with the Beard Group was distributed at the last work session. She noted the
various changes that have been made to the language in the agreement.
Mayor Bergeson asked if Mr. and Mrs. Tagg have reviewed the agreement and the
changes in the language.
Mrs. Tagg stated she just read the agreement and inquired about the reference to the
"third party" and the master plan.
Economic Development Assistant Divine stated the City will not accept any applications
for the City's portion of the property. If an application is received for the Tagg property,
the application will go through the City process.
Mrs. Tagg stated she wants to be clear that developers can wor City on her
property during the agreement period with the Beard Grou
Mr. Bill Beard, Beard Group, stated he would like the
determine the economic feasibility of the project an
involved. He distributed pictures and commented
downtown Hopkins, Robbinsdale, Chicago and
with Ryland Homes in Centerville this spring.
e agreement allows to
tify other issues that may be
projects he has done in
e stated he is starting a project
Mr. Beard referred to the steps outlined i ' .e agreement noting that if the project does
move forward, the next step is to sub ' : co ,pt plan. He distributed a sample of a
concept plan that was used on ano profit. e stated he would like to break ground
on the Village this year.
Councilmember Reinert refe to E ibit ; in the agreement and asked if that is what
the study will dete ne.
Mr. Beard reviewed Ex ;gib;' ting the programming information listed would be
investigated relating to v ue and costs. Recommendations relating to the project and
mixed uses will also be ina.`ded in the economic feasibility study.
This item will be on the regular Council agenda Monday, March 11, 2002, 6:30 p.m.
LAKE PELTIER SURFACE WATER ZONING DISCUSSION, MARTY
ASLESON
Environmental Specialist Asleson stated this issue was discussed at the last work session.
He reviewed the background of this issue noting the purpose of the no -wake zone is to
minimize human disturbance to the adjacent nesting birds, aquatic vegetation and water
quality around the island.
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The Peltier Lake Association met on March 4, 2002 to discuss this issue. Staff
understands that the Association is proposing a modification of the proposed no -wake
zone that would be acceptable to the Association members. Staff would welcome any
modifications that alleviate Association member concerns while still addressing the stated
environmental concerns. He noted the public hearing in Centerville will be held on
March 13, 2002.
Councilmember Reinert asked when the problem began and what has occurred that makes
the lake different now than in the past.
Mayor Bergeson noted a public hearing will be held regarding this issue Monday, March
11, 2002, 6:30 p.m.
Mr. Jerry Linder, 7413 Peltier Lake Drive, came forward and t ,; ` ' the Council for the
opportunity to speak regarding this issue. He gave a presentati °eluded his
background, video from the American Water-ski Associat • ting to noise on
the lake, habitat of the Blue Heron and a conclusion. He • : = d ' - does understand the
importance of the Blue Heron for the Lino Lakes area g= d - on they are leaving
needs to be determined. Once that reason is determ'q e '.whatever is causing the problem
should be limited such as noise or shore restrictio ted he will move the slalom
ski course from its current location.
Councilmember Carlson asked why info liven about Goose Lake in White
Bear Lake.
Mr. Linder stated Mr. LeBlanc had
slalom course on Goose Lake. He
course can be shortened.
him that he should practice skiing the
ants to ski on Peltier Lake and the slalom
Mr. Hal Wagner, 15 Peltier L dive, stated the Association met on March 4. He is
making a proposal fo $` LL + is obecause he is fairly neutral regarding this issue.
The Association has a _ a no- ake zone is needed. The Association is proposing
a no -wake zone from the og poles north because that is already an existing barrier and
that will keep the two homy -wners out of the no -wake zone.
Councilmember Carlson clarified that approximately 500 feet would be beyond the bog
poles and past the homeowners.
Mr. Wagner stated the Association would like the ordinance to state that no other
restrictions will be put on the southern portion of the lake. He stated the proposal is the
Association's first proposal and they are prepared to present another option if necessary.
Ms. Joan Galli, DNR, came forward and commented on the biology of the herons noting
that this particular location is the second largest colony in the seven county area. It is also
the only colony in Anoka County. She commented on the Herons nesting habits noting
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the exact reason for the Heron leaving is still unknown. The DNR is continually
gathering information but the current consensus is that a no -wake zone will minimize any
potential disturbances. She stated the eagle and heron do get along together and almost
every rookery has an eagle nest nearby. This particular colony has failed twice and
everyone needs to do what they can to sustain the colony. The ordinance is a standard
management concept that is often used. Utilizing the no -wake zone only on the north
side of the lake will accommodate the recreation on the lake. Time is a factor because the
birds nest in the spring, usually beginning in the middle of March. The quality of the lake
is also an issue and the no -wake zone will help with the quality also.
Mayor Bergeson asked if eagles could be competing with the birds for the same food.
Ms. Galli stated she does not think that herons and eagles cost e for the same food
because they hunt food differently and eat different -sized food.
Councilmember Reinert asked if the herons have been on 's only 12 years.
Ms. Galli stated the herons have only been on the isl. ; f. bars, but eagle nests have
been there also. Eagles have nested on the island at ea ''twice. Some of the herons have
left the island after being there only a few months uccessfully nesting. The birds
have left the island two years in a row.
Mr. Jeff Perry, Anoka County, stated the
studies that were done in 1995. Studies
resource. The 20/20 Vision also indi
County but to residents as well. Th
the north side of the lake and the is
be protected. The rookery was
the previous rookery location
C. . pective on the island dates back to
e island is a very significant
island is not only important to the
d put together a master plan that showed
ing very important and an area that should
d prior to 1989. Due to the disturbances in
eltier Island.
Mr. Perry stated the A °°n'. rem the importance of the rookery is very
beneficial. The Coun doc ent d the heron's habits for quite some time. The
County put together a tas $ force to determine how to sustain the rookery. After reviewing
all the available informatio it was determined that a no -wake zone should be put into
effect. It seems now that a detailed discussion of where the line should be is appropriate.
Mr. Perry added that the County has agreed to post signs and buoys. A minimum of 300
meters is needed for a buffer. There are 530 nests on the island but the majority of them
are on the northern half of the island. He recommended pushing the no -wake zone just a
bit further than the bog poles and referred to a map pointing that line out. He also pointed
out the portion of the area that is owned by the County.
Mr. Art Hawkins, 6102 Centerville Road, stated he is present to answer any questions
regarding the Blue Heron. He stated he has been observing the birds for three years and
has information available regarding the desertion of the birds. He stated a rookery must
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have a buffer around it to be sustained. There is some disagreement about the amount of
the buffer. If the City wants to keep the herons in this area it must be buffered. He
referred to a map and pointed out the rookeries that have been vacated. He commented
on what he has observed relating to the habits of the birds. He read a quote form the St.
Paul Pioneer Press regarding the DNR purchase of the Lamprey Pass rookery. It was
quite expensive and the City of Lino Lakes has one without having to purchase it. He
stated the City should not lose this valuable asset.
Councilmember Carlson asked why the birds left Lamprey Pass.
Ms. Galli stated there was a storm in 1987 and that caused the nesting season to fail. The
birds did come back but there were continual disturbances with ATV vehicles and
humans so they left. She noted mosquito control has been to • ® t to fly their helicopters
over nesting areas. Fire fighters have also been told not to trai - area. The DNR
will also be speaking to sea plane owners. The DNR is trying ad • all the
disturbances to the birds. She commented on the feeding e herons noting
they will go as far as 16 miles to feed but most often feed -2 miles of the nesting
area.
Mr. Rod Kukonen, Chair of the Environmental Bo e forward and stated that Lino
Lakes had recently participated in some resear was one regarding the birds. The
research indicated activity has to be limited i - ng area and the Environmental
Board is recommending a 1,000 foot buffe
Councilmember Reinert clarified the g _ a 'o ' the ski course in relation to the island
and where the course may be move
Ms. Connie Grundhofer, 235 L
citizen. She distributed pic
the island does have ee specie
other birds.
e forward and stated she is a concerned
d egrets as well as other birds. She noted
erons and the island is also used as a resource for
Councilmember Carlson ked for the County's recommendation regarding the no -wake
zone.
Mr. Perry referred to a map and pointed out the County's proposal for the no -wake zone.
The line will be 175-200 feet south of the island and angle north. That line will not effect
the homeowners. The County also feels that boats at no -wake speeds will not adversely
affect the area. It is not the County's intent to keep people out of the area but to limit the
disturbances. This type of management practice has worked in the past.
Councilmember Reinert stated he would also like to protect the birds. He asked what the
outcome will be with a no -wake zone relating to the bird population. He also asked for
clarification regarding what it means when the birds leave.
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Mr. Perry stated the hope with a no -wake zone is the colony will come back and grow
larger.
Councilmember Reinert stated it seems that no one knows specifically whey the colonies
have vacated. He asked what will happen if the birds do not come back.
Ms. Galli stated the DNR will continue to keep track of the birds and how they are doing.
It can take 2-3 years after the disturbances are minimized before the number of birds
increases.
Councilmember Reinert stated a no -wake zone with a time period has been utilized on
other lakes. He asked if that has been considered in this case.
Ms. Galli stated the timeframe is for when the birds are nestin
to feed and the northern portion of the lake is a very important
resources on the lake need to be protected for a larger time
would like the no -wake zone to be in effect for the whole
birds then move out
ea. Other
efore, the DNR
Mayor Bergeson asked Mr. Perry to put the County' pry . osa in writing and give it to
staff prior to the Monday night Council meeting.
Mr. Wagner came forward and stated the Ass iatio . second proposal for the no -wake
zone is to move the line up 100 feet from the t island and angle it north. He
stated it is very similar to the County's p
This item will appear on the regular ounea:enda Monday, March 11, 2002, 6:30 p.m.
Mayor Bergeson called for a shy . �:0 p.m.
Mayor Bergeson reconvened the ng at 8:15 p.m.
UPDATE ON SPRIN " ' . ` N 1 UM, MAYOR BERGESON
Mayor Bergeson referred t . memo that was distributed in the Council packets. The
memo indicated all facets of the "Referendum 2002" committee is progressing well. At
the last meeting the marketing plan was finalized to ensure all residents have several
opportunities to become informed on all aspects of the upcoming referendum.
The memo also referred to a draft copy of the informational brochure that will be
delivered to all residents the first week of April. Some changes will be made to the
brochure but it does include the most pertinent information relating to the April 27, 2002,
referendum.
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PHEASANT HILLS 12TH ADDITION, EAW PETITION, JEFF SMYSER
City Planner Smyser distributed a memo regarding Pheasant Hills 12th Addition. The
City has received a petition requesting the preparation of an Environmental Assessment
Worksheet (EAW). The City is responsible for supervising or approving the project as a
whole. No final decision can be made on the project until either the City decides no
EAW is needed, or the City decides an EAW is needed, and afterward decides no
environmental impact statement is needed. The City has 30 days to decide if an EAW
should be prepared. Staff is recommending Council discuss this issue more fully at the
March 20 work session. He noted that the information that was included with the memo
is the original staff reports on the project.
City Planner Smyser added that the deadline is up on this prof =' q and without the EAW
petition, the City would have had to take action on Monday ni
This item will appear on the Council work session agenda March 20, 2002,
5:30 p.m.
ST. PAUL REGIONAL WATER SERVICES PROR ICHAEL
GROCHALA
Community Development Director Grochala ell` St. Paul Water Services is trying
to sell some of their property. He distributed ap p inting out the area in question.
The State is trying to pursue a metro gee .��aY o purchase the property.The State
would then have the County manage the The question is if the City has any
objections to the County managing e majority of the land is wetland and not
accessible or developable.
The Council indicated no obj onsthe Minty managing the property in question.
REGULAR AGENIC~ BRU • 11, 2002
There were no changes t ere lar Council agenda.
Mayor Bergeson stated he received a call from County Commissioner Langfield regarding
another Commissioner's suggestion that a casino be developed where 35E and 35W meet.
Commissioner Langfield asked that the Council be polled regarding that idea. He
suggested each Councilmember give their comments to the City Administrator to develop
a letter to send to Commissioner Langfield.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
These minutes were considered, corrected and approved at the regular Council meeting held on
March 25, 2002
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