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COUNCIL MINUTES AUGUST 11, 2003 APPROVED 239 City Planner Smyser clarified a lift station is not needed for this development, but would be needed to •240 bring development to the west. He reminded the Council this development is being brought forward 241 by the request of the owners, so he believes they are in favor of the project. 242 243 Councilmember Reinert asked how the other neighbors that are not part of the development feel about 244 it. City Planner Smyser stated they want utilities, but have not said much else. He indicated there is 245 one parcel that is not involved in this subdivision, which would have been preferable. Community 246 Development Director Grochala advised the lot on the corner is not included in the petition. They 247 have had several discussions with that owner, and know he intends to come in at a later date and 248 subdivide. 249 250 Councilmember Reinert asked if there had been any discussion on trying to do something other than 251 four lots per parcel. He asked if they are smaller than Bluebill Ponds. City Planner Smyser stated 252 they are smaller by three feet, as the lots are 85 x 132, not 135. 253 254 Councilmember Reinert indicated this project concerns him. He stated it looks like it can be done, 255 but maybe they are trying too hard. It seems like Minneapolis where they are trying to cram houses 256 into a space that is too small. 257 258 Mayor Bergeson indicated he has a concern with the lots that are not included. He thinks when they 259 had a discussion about the lots to the north and putting utilities in there, they had the intention it 260 would benefit all the property owners. Now they have a situation where 3 parcels are involved in 261 taking the easy and free stuff, with no lift station needed and free MUSA. He is concerned that the 402262 lots that chose not to sell or participate at this time could end up with all the expense. 63 264 City Planner Smyser stated everyone had the opportunity to be a part of this plat, but a number chose 265 not to, whether because of money or timing issues he does not know. He does not think it was a 266 matter of not being fair from that perspective. He indicated that concerning paying for the lift station, 267 he has a hard time believing that even if all the parcels were involved and a lift station was needed 268 that they would be able to pay for it. Community Development Director Grochala advised that 269 usually when they have large improvements they look at area charges and divide the cost out. He 270 indicated the bigger issue is Mar Don Acres in general. He stated the Comprehensive Plan says it is 271 not sewered now, in 2010 or even 2020, but because there is sewer on the backside, they have the 272 opportunity to extend it to this area, and would probably consider going as far as the city can. 273 274 Mayor Bergeson indicated the rest of Mar Don Acres may not be good candidates for sewer because 275 they could probably only get two lots, or maybe even one. 276 277 Councilmember Dahl asked how much is left in their MUSA without this 6.2 acres coming out. City 278 Planner Smyser stated they are not proposing using the MUSA reserve, they are proposing getting 279 more. If this project goes ahead, part of the Comprehensive Plan Amendment would include 280 requesting 6.2 acres more of MUSA. 281 282 Councilmember Dahl asked if septic systems were failing now, which is creating the petition for 283 utilities. City Planner Smyser stated he is not aware of any failing within the petitioners, but there is 284 one of the existing homes in the proposed plat that does have a failed system. •285 6