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APPROVED MINUTES
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL:
Chair Tralle called the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board meeting to order at 6:30
p.m. on May 10, 2017.
II. APROVAL OF AGENDA
The Agenda was approved as presented.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Mr. Masonick made a MOTION to approve the April 12, 2017 Meeting Minutes. Motion
was supported by Mr. Stoesz. Motion carried 5 - 0.
IV. OPEN MIKE
Chair Tralle declared Open Mike at 6:31 p.m.
There was no one present for Open Mike.
Mr. Laden made a MOTION to close Open Mike at 6:32 p.m. Motion was supported by
Mr. Masonick. Motion carried 5 - 0.
V. ACTION ITEMS
A. Chavez Preserve
DATE : May 10, 2017
TIME STARTED : 6:30 P.M.
TIME ENDED : 7:52 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Dale Stoesz, Lou Masonick, Perry Laden, Paul
Tralle (Chair), Neil Evenson, Michael Root
MEMBERS ABSENT : Jeremy Stimpson
STAFF PRESENT : Michael Grochala, Katie Larsen, Diane Hankee,
Mara Strand
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Chaves Preserve action item was tabled.
Mr. Laden asked about the variances that go along with this project. Ms. Larsen
stated there are 2 potential variances. One for reducing right-of-way width and
one for reducing the front yard setback.
B. Lake Amelia Vistas
Ms. Larsen presented the staff report.
The applicant submitted a land use application for PUD Concept Plan and
Comprehensive Plan Amendment. The proposed development is a master planned
residential community located along CSAH 54/20th Avenue just east of Amelia
Lake. The site contains 2 parcels totaling approximately 40 gross acres.
Staff recommended deeming the development premature.
Staff addressed questions of the board.
Mr. Masonick asked about the depth of the lake. Ms. Larsen stated that it is a
natural environment lake but unsure of the actual depth. Ms. Hankee said that she
was reading and there are restrictions around this lake. Mr. Masonick reinstated
that he was wondering if this lake would be good for recreational use. Ms. Larsen
stated that everything along the shoreline is existing wetland.
Mr. Laden asked for clarification regarding sanitary sewer hookup in Lino Lakes.
Mr. Grochala stated sewer is designed to be served by White Bear Township and
water is designed to be served by Lino Lakes.
Mr. Laden asked about the ownership of the trail system and how would they be
accessed by others. Ms. Larsen stated that this trail currently is not planned to
connect to anything existing and would be primarily used by residents in the area.
Mr. Laden asked where the closest recreational park is. Mr. Grochala stated that
the cities long range park plan does not identify a park for that specific area.
There is a park planned to the north of the site. Ms. Larsen stated that Park Board
to review on Monday, May 15, 2017.
Mr. Stoesz asked how the development got around the electrical line. Ms. Larsen
stated that the applicant was cognitive of the layout, easement, and utilities. As
proposed, the electrical lines will not be moved.
Mr. Stoesz asked how the development would go about utilities if this was
planned in a rural city, outside of Lino Lakes. Ms. Larsen stated the development
would be on well and septic but not at this density. Ms. Hankee stated that the
largest permitted soil system in the state is a third of what’s being presented.
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Mr. Masonick asked how the number of units were increased. Ms. Larsen stated
the request was for 452 units. Four (4) units would be allowed today based on one
(1) unit per 10 acres.
Mr. Evenson asked how the neighbors would be affected if the utility staging area
were to be approved. Ms. Larsen stated that that is something that would need to
be evaluated at a later point. Ms. Larsen stated that we have to be conscious
about taking up the entire allocated sanitary sewer. Mr. Evenson asked if there
would be any harm if the utility staging area were to be approved. Ms. Larsen
stated everyone in this area is in the post 2030 and there would be no cost to the
immediate property owner.
Chair Tralle asked about the no service area to the south. Ms. Larsen stated that
there is one home on the property that is on well and septic. Chair Tralle asked if
there are any issues with bringing a pipe through the no service area. Ms. Larsen
stated that they would have to obtain an easement to get the pipe through the
easement.
Chair Tralle stated that NorthPointe is about a mile from the proposed location.
Chair Tralle asked why we are reviewing this land use application with all the red
flags. Ms. Larsen stated that any land owner has the opportunity to submit a land
use application and we are doing our due diligence.
Chair Tralle declared the Public Hearing open at 7:22 p.m.
Rick Harrison, Rick Harrison Site Design Studio, 8832 7th Ave North, Golden
Valley, presented his own PowerPoint presentation. Mr. Harrison discussed why
this site is good for a high density residential development given its topography
and view sheds of the lake.
Chair Tralle stated that he likes the concept of what is planned but it boils down to
sewer and water.
Chair Tralle questioned the affordability of the housing. Mr. Harrison stated that
he cannot answer that question at this point.
Mr. Root stated that the concept is great but there are several hurdles. Mr.
Harrison asked if these issues can be overcome and if it is something that could be
supported.
Chair Tralle stated that if this does come to fruition, what is the board’s opinion?
Chair Tralle stated that if you get your ducks in a row, this project would probably
be a go.
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Tom Budzynski, TJB Homes, 9100 Baltimore Street, Blaine. We know sewer is
available towards White Bear Township, can water come from this way?
Kent Brander, Civil Methods, 1551 Livingston Avenue, West St. Paul. The 300
units could be supported by utilities. There may be different calculation methods
used to come to 302 units. There is water and sanitary sewer available. This is a
draft study and because of that, we did not dig deeper. We will look at the
different options for the utilities and the variances available.
Mr. Grochala stated that the feasibility study stated the 8 inch water main
connection to the south; however, the City never planned on going to White Bear
Township for this site. The city is not anticipating White Bear Township to
provide water outside of their city. Extending the water main from White Bear
Township is not a viable option. Chair Tralle asked for clarification on whose
responsibility it would be to gain the agreement.
Mr. Budzynski asked who is currently maintaining the sanitary sewer. Mr.
Grochala stated that it is currently paid by North Oaks and maintained by White
Bear Township.
Chair Tralle asked about the density of senior living. Ms. Larsen stated that she
would have to go back and analyze the density numbers.
Chair Tralle asked what we need to tell the applicant and land owner. Ms. Larsen
stated they are present to hear the comments from the board. Mr. Grochala stated
that they will be at the next meeting.
Mr. Budzynski stated that we are here today to present a jewel. You are creating a
luxury living space and creating a space for seniors.
Mr. Stoesz stated this plan is a dream. This plan adds a lot of value and tax
revenue. There are a lot of positives that go along with this project. We are not in
a position to decline at this time. The first step would be to figure out the water
and sewer.
Mr. Laden stated that this could be an asset to the city. Mr. Laden questioned the
market rate apartments. Mr. Budzynski stated resident qualifications is not
determined at this point.
Mr. Laden stated concerns around the transportation. Three cul-de-sacs are not
appealing and would like to see cross connections.
Mr. Laden stated concerns around density using all the capacity with one project.
Mr. Laden stated that he would like to call this premature now but review this
project as we are reviewing the 2040 comprehensive plan.
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Mr. Root stated that there is a list of things that need to be worked through. If all
these issues can we worked through, it is worth considering.
VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Project Update
All Board Comprehensive Plan meeting scheduled for Monday, May 15,
2017. Landform planning consultant will be present
Paving on 21st Avenue happened today
Wood Edge buildings are going up and a model is open
Eagle Liquors will be getting their building permit shortly
Potential meeting scheduled with All Seasons next week
American Legion purchased land from the city and will be constructing a
parking lot on the south side of the building
Plans in for Saddle Club 3rd addition and adjacent Comcast property
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Root made a MOTION to adjourn the meeting at 7:52 p.m. Motion was supported
by Mr. Laden. Motion carried 5 - 0.
Respectfully submitted,
Mara Strand
Community Development Assistant