HomeMy WebLinkAbout01/04/2001 EDAC Minutes 1
APPROVED
CITY OF LINO LAKES
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
DATE: Thursday, January 4, 2001
MEMBERS
PRESENT: H. Juni, T. Vacha, J. Schwartz, J. Milbauer, D. Gorowsky, F. Chase,
K. Hansmann
MEMBERS
ABSENT: J. Jensen
OTHERS
PRESENT: M. Divine, B. Wessel, D. Carlson, J. Bergeson
GENERAL/MINUTES
The December 7, 2000 minutes were approved.
EDAC APPOINTMENTS
Committee members introduced themselves to in-coming member Kathy Hansmann. Ms.
Divine explained that the council tied when voting on the other vacancy and will
readvertise for the position.
Mr. Juni nominated Mr. Chase to remain chairman of the committee. Mr. Vacha
seconded the motion. Motion passed, with Mr. Chase abstaining.
Mr. Vacha nominated Mr. Gorowsky to remain as vice-chair. Ms. Schwartz seconded the
nomination. Motion passed, with Mr. Gorowsky abstaining.
Mr. Gorowsky moved that EDAC request a liaison from Planning & Zoning to replace
Bill Johnson. Ms. Schwartz seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
PROCEDURES FOR TAPING MEETINGS
Ms. Divine stated a complaint had been made that Mr. Wessel requested that she erase a
part of tape at the last meeting. Ms. Divine and Mr. Wessel stated that no portion of a
tape had ever been erased. Mr. Gorowsky asked if there was a city policy for how long
tapes are retained. Ms. Carlson stated the council has a policy regarding that. Mr.
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Milbauer moved that the procedure for retaining EDAC tapes conform to city policy. Mr.
Gorowsky seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
TOWN CENTER UPDATE
Mr. Wessel stated that he and Ms. Divine were teaming the Town Center. Mr. Wessel is
the lead on the Dellwood LLC (Ryan/Target) project; Ms. Divine is the lead on the
Village. Mr. Rolek, the finance director, is hiring a consultant to conduct a Town Center
economic feasibility study, which should be completed in March. Private/public
participation is one aspect of the study. Dellwood LLC has indicated it will request public
participation in the project. Village development, YMCA, and the Dellwood proposal
will all be a part of the study.
Ms. Divine said the 1997 Livable Communities grant may be able to pay for the study.
Mr. Bergeson said this study is high priority for the council. Mr. Wessel said he will have
Mr. Rolek come to EDAC and share the information and get EDAC’s input.
Ms. Divine stated that seven cities received Livable Communities grants. Lino Lakes was
awarded $450,000. The city won’t receive the grant until the Comp Plan is complete. The
committee made a condition of the grant that it be used for site acquisition for rental
housing. Staff will be going back to the committee to ask for more flexibility, since the
Tagg property cannot be required with that amount of money. Other conditions on
receiving the money include the completion of a stop light on Town Center Parkway, an
average of 3 units/acre of housing in the Comp Plan, and making an exception of the
housing in the Village.
Ms. Divine said staff was meeting with the development team to put together other
options for moving forward with the development of the Village, since the partial grant
award does not allow the implementation of the original scheme.
Mr. Chase stated that the Target proposal reinforces his contention that the design
standards for the Town Center should not be a zoning issue, it should be a part of the
property plan. If the standards were approved, it would be a problem with the Target
proposal. Mr. Wessel stated that Calthorpe’s plan was the impetus for the development in
the Town Center, and the name and reputation have helped. Carolyn Krall, who is
working on the Village plan, is working with Calthorpe, and Calthorpe supports what she
is doing. It is a collaborative effort.
Mr. Milbauer asked about approval of the Comp Plan. Ms. Carlson said the council was
continuing to meet. Mr. Bergeson said too much time had been spent on it, and it was
getting time to call the question. Mr. Milbauer asked if the developers had contacted
Taggs. Mr. Wessel said as far as he knew they had not contacted the Taggs since the full
grant was not awarded, and an effort will be made to re-strategize with them.
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Mr. Bergeson stated he went to the awards ceremony and he had not realized the politics
involved in the grants. He is surprised the city came out as well as it did, since he
believed the odds were stacked against the city. Ms. Divine said there was no
representation for Anoka County. The committee is comprised of politicians, planners,
county commissioners, non-profits in housing, etc. It is weighted toward Minneapolis/St.
Paul, but they spread the funds through the metro. Mr. Juni recommended staff pursue
getting a representative on the committee.
Ms. Carlson suggested that the city should send the Metropolitan Council the parts of the
Comp Plan that are completed to move it forward. Mr. Gorowsky said it was unlikely
they would look at it piecemeal. Ms. Divine said Met Council staff indicated they had
never done more than a cursory review of the first submitted plan since it wasn’t
complete.
Ms. Hansmann asked for background of the site acquisition, and what the next steps
would be. Ms. Divine responded that staff and developers would revisit the options with
the partial grant, since the Tagg parcel cannot be secured now. A strategy is needed to
develop the city owned piece without compromising the plan or piecemeal development.
Discussion continued about what options might work, including further discussion with
the Taggs. Mr. Wessel said the design standards are beginning to create a market. People
are becoming familiar with this type of development and seeing successful projects.
DELLWOOD LLC
Mr. Wessel showed members the schedule that puts Target in the ground in June, which
is an aggressive schedule. Target has presented a site plan that includes retail that has
some architectural characteristics, streetscape, etc., like the Village. There has been an
effort to try to tie the architectural design, use of materials, scale, etc. with the rest of the
Town Center project, but this project, with council support, ignores the real design
standards. Mr. Chase said it showed that it was a development issue, not a zoning issue.
Ms. Divine said that because the design standards were not in place, that type of
development did not occur. Mr. Chase stated that if it was a PDO and the city had a
concept of standards, the city would be doing what it’s doing with the developers and
would have approved design standards. The city has to work with the developer and
negotiate. It needs flexibility. Mr. Milbauer said the design standards in theory are
fantastic until a project of this magnitude comes in. This is what the city has been striving
for.
Ms. Carlson said if the city provides a public subsidy and moves this far away from the
design standards, there is a question about the design standards on the south side. Mr.
Chase said they don’t belong in the ordinance. It belongs on the property in a PDO
situation. If a developer presents what the city wants, then the city can make it work. And
if a developer doesn’t present what the city wants, the developer is told to go away.
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Ms. Divine said because there were no design standards the city is getting a conventional
suburban development. If the city wants the Village, with a mix of uses, and civic spaces,
the city will not get it without the teeth of an ordinance. Mr. Chase said the standards
need to move ahead, but not by putting them in the ordinance. He suggested again the use
of a PDO, with development agreements. He said the city should adopt the standards and
then eventually put them into the ordinance, especially for a rebuild. Having zoning
standards so that the council has to make an exception is a bad deal, but if the council was
happy with negotiations, exceptions wouldn’t be needed.
Mr. Bergeson said the city has some leverage because of road issues, etc.
A traffic study is underway that will look at the whole interchange. The developer has
asked for a second entrance north of Apollo Drive and claims the project can’t go without
it. A neighborhood meeting was held to discuss issues related to 77th Street, and the
developers felt it was positive. The site plan will be submitted for formal review in
January.
APOLLO BUSINESS PARK
Ms. Divine said Summit Fire Protection is applying for a site plan review on for a 4-acre
site. The company manufactures fire protection systems and will build 30,000 SF.
KAISER PROPERTY
Ms. Divine explained that the city purchased this property on Birch Street and Hodgson
Road from the County several years ago. The county wants to purchase it back because it
needs a majority of the site for right of way for Hodgson Road expansion. The remainder
of the parcel that won’t be right of way will be sold to Apitz Garage. A developer has
purchased the entire Apitz farm and is proposing a housing development with some
commercial.
MEETING DATES
It was noted the list of meeting dates had an incorrect February date. The meeting will be
February 1. Mr. Gorowsky suggested the July 5 meeting be removed because of the
holiday.
Meeting adjourned at 8:30 a.m.