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Charter Commission
November 8, 2012
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DATE
TIME STARTED
TIME ENDED
MEMBERS PRESENT
MEMBERS EXCUSED
MEMBERS UNEXCUSED
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT
OTHERS PRESENT:
CORRECTED
CITY OF LINO LAKES
CHARTER COMMISSION
November 8, 2012
6:32 p.m.
8:33 p.m.
Aldentaler, Bartsch, Bretoi, Dahl, Gunderson, Lyden
Penn, Storberg, Sutherland, Timm, Trehus, Turcotte,
Williams
Zastrow
Helgemoe
None
Council Members Rafferty and Stoesz; Mayor Reinert
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Lyden convened the meeting of the Lino Lakes Charter Commission at 6:32 pm on
November 8, 2012.
OPEN MIC
Council Member Stoesz noted that with just slightly over 50 percent of Lino Lakes citizens
voting in support of the proposed changes to Chapter 8 of the Charter he would like to see
consideration given to making changes to the Charter through an ordinance rather than through
an amendment.
With the presence of three council members, the Chair expressed concern that this would be
considered a quorum for a Council meeting and as such should be posted.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The presentation of the plaque and Certificate of appreciation to Jim Drennan was removed as
Mr. Drennan was unable to be present. An item was added to the Minutes section by Vice Chair
Dahl — a discussion of the level of detail required in the Commission minutes.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Penn, seconded by Commissioner Dahl, to approve the July 12
minutes as corrected. Motion passes unanimously.
Vice Chair Dahl proposed that the Secretary captures the main themes in rather than attempting
to capture all of the details pertaining to all of the discussion. However, the Secretary would
ensure that the wording of all motions was verbatim as they were proposed. Commissioner Dahl
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proposed that this process be tried as an experiment for three Commission meetings.
Commissioners Gunderson and Sutherland spoke in favor of the proposal as did Chair Lyden.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Commissioners discussed item 6B Charter Amendments and noted that the Commission had not
been able to acquire a legal opinion advice from the its attorney in sufficient time to make
Novernbee ballotbefore the ballot deadline expired. Commissioner Gunderson raised the
question about whether there was a sufficient balance remaining in the Commission's budget to
allow for attorney fees.
Council Member Rafferty commented that only one bill for $303.00 has been submitted for
payment leaving a balance of slightly under $1200.00
Commissioners raised a question about which they would like to get a legal opinion:
What is the process for getting a proposed amendment on the ballot when the Commission and
City Council disagree?
Another question for which they would like a response is: what funding do other charter cities
receive?
Commissioners expressed a desire to have a discussion of the Charter amendment added to the
January 2013 agenda.
MOTION by Commissioner Storberg, seconded by Commissioner Gunderson, to have the entire
Commission and the entire Council meet together to discuss the provisions of Chapter 8.
AMENDMENT offered by Commissioner Timm that there be a tight agenda agreed to the Mayor
and the Commission Chair and that some procedural rules for discussion be defined.
Council Member Stoesz left at 8:04
The question was called and the vote to vote on the main motion passed with Commissioners
Aldentaler, Trehus and Turcotte voting no.
The main motion passed with Commissioners Storberg, Lyden, Williams, Bartsch, Gunderson,
Timm and Penn voting in favor and Commissioners Trehus, Turcotte, Bretoi, Dahl, and
Aldentaler opposed.
Commissioners Bretoi and Sutherland left at 8:17.
MOTION by Commissioner Trehus, seconded by Commissioner Turcotte, that the officers of the
Commission work with the Commission's attorney to review the Commission's proposed
amendments and that the attorney be asked to provide an opinion in terms of their
constitutionality, and to respond to the opinions rendered by the City's attorney regarding the
legality of the proposed amendments
The motion passed with two Commissioners opposed.
NEW BUSINESS
No new business was discussed.
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90
91 ADJOURN
92
93 MOTION by Commissioner Storberg seconded by Commissioner Gunderson, to adjourn the
94 meeting at 8:33 pm. Motion carried unanimously.
95
96 Respectfully Submitted,
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98 Margaret (Marg) Penn
99 Secretary and Commissioner
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