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HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-07-2017 Council Work Session MinutesCITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION APPROVED August 7, 2017 1 CITY OF LINO LAKES 2 MINUTES 3 4 DATE August 7, 2017 5 TIME STARTED 6*00 p.m. 6 TIME ENDED 10000 P.M. 7 MEMBERS PRESENT Council Member Rafferty, Kusterman, 8 Maher, Manthey and Mayor Reinert 9 MEMBERS ABSENT None 10 11 Staff members present: City Administrator Jeff Karlson; Public Safety Director John 12 Swenson; Community Development Director Michael Grochala; Public Services Director 13 Rick DeGardner; Environmental Coordinator Marty Asleson; City Clerk Julie Bartell. 14 15 1. Arlo Lane and Bald Eagle Boulevard Traffic Review —Chuck Rickert, WSB & 16 Associates, reported on the traffic study that was completed for the area. A speed count 17 was done and the speeds were found to be within the 30 mph threshold. They did a full 18 week of counts. They had a couple of peaks (speeders in the morning rush) that came in 19 over 50 mph. Based on existing conditions and overall study results, they are still 20 recommending no stop sign. He explained that putting in a stop sign where it isn't 21 warranted actually causes a less safe situation. They recommend that monitoring 22 continue and direct police efforts based on study data. 23 24 Mayor Reinert suggested that it seems that it is a couple a people in the neighborhood that 25 are causing the problems. 26 27 Crystal Lynn, original requester of a stop sign, asked if the study data can be released. 28 She is currently taking down license numbers and watching herself. She is seeing kids on 29 phones driving and it is frightening. 30 31 Mayor Reinert asked Public Safety Director Swenson if those license number reports are 32 followed. Director Swenson said there is a visit if they live in the city or a phone call if 33 they don't. 34 35 Another resident reported that it's difficult to determine who was driving (car can be 36 registered to someone other than the drive) or where they are from. Some of the actions 37 that have been taken seem to slow things down. He agrees that a stop sign probably isn't 38 the best approach but he favors the communication and enforcement recommended. 39 40 Community Development Director Grochala noted the community education element of 41 the staff recommendation; that will get the word out. 42 43 Mayor Reinert noted his neighborhood experience. The best approach to the problem has 44 been direct communications with the neighbors. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION August 7, 2017 APPROVED 45 46 Staff was directed to proceed with the communication aspect, including a reminder to 47 speak to teenage drivers in the family. 48 49 Bald Eagle Boulevard -Community Development Director Grochala explained the 50 history of traffic issues in the area. 51 52 Chuck Rickert, WSB & Associates, reported on the results of their traffic study. They 53 found traffic speeding on a consistent basis. Their recommendation is installation of 54 driver dynamic signs to inform on speed. The other recommendation is to clear brush to 55 improve the sight line. He admitted that they don't have a good idea of the pedestrian 56 situation because it wasn't active during the study period. They are additionally 57 recommending a pedestrian advisory sign. 58 59 Community Development Grochala remarked that staff proposes to follow the 60 recommendations of the study and to return with information on the cost of the signs. 61 The cost is proposed to be funded through the Council contingency account. 62 63 Mayor Reinert suggested that staff inform the neighborhood on the project. 64 2. Comprehensive Plan Update —Kendra Lindahl , Landform, reviewed a 65 PowerPoint presentation, including: 66 - Open house feedback (including a meeting in a box result); receipt of a few requests for 67 specific actions on people's property; 68 - Community Survey Results — safety came through very strong; top three are more retail, 69 upgraded trails and parks, and preserving public safety; 70 - Review of current comp plan, including future build out; 71 - Potential Land Use Study Areas — working with the Planning & Zoning group now; 72 some areas included are the checkerboard in the northwest corner of the city, sewer 73 staging issues in the south west quadrant where they will work with White Bear Lake, a 74 piece of property on the north edge of town for sewer staging, northern Lake Drive area, 75 the Waldoch area where there is interest in utilities to continue developing the current 76 use, the border on Elmcrest as far as what's happening with the neighboring city and also 77 if the current mix makes sense, Peltier Lake property land use mix in light of the water 78 plans in the area, and the west side of 20th Avenue. 79 - EDAC has reviewed and that information will be returned to P&Z; 80 - Next Steps — participate at Blue Heron Days to get more engagement, back to Park 81 Board consideration, transportation review at Planning & Zoning Board, 82 environmental/surface water; Environmental Board review. 83 84 The mayor remarked that the difficult work has been done in the past and this round of 85 comp plan updating is really about tweaking. 2 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION APPROVED August 7, 2017 86 3. Water Tower No. 3 Siting Report — Community Development Director 87 Grochala recalled that the city has a model predicting future public improvement needs. 88 The last plan identified the need for a third water tower in the city. The City's 89 consultant, WSB & Associates, has been working on the plan and will present the study 90 results. 91 92 Greg Johnson, WSB & Associates, reviewed a PowerPoint presentation, outlining: 93 - Projections and growth for the city; additional water storage is recommended now; 94 - Existing and future storage needs — basis for evaluation was reviewed and also a chart 95 indicating demand and required storage; 96 - Current storage and recommendation to add more; 97 98 Council Member Kusterman noted that it appears that the usage has been decreasing. 99 Mr. Johnson suggested that less use is the new normal based on more efficiency and 100 conservation efforts; it will probably get to a point where those efforts bottom out 101 however. Mr. Grochala explained that there has been some new development that has 102 increased capacity. 103 104 Mayor Reinert noted that the recommendation pretty much doubles capacity and he 105 received confirmation that it would bring capacity to 35,000. 106 107 - Storage Types (about 75% of new towers being built are composite most likely because 108 of lower long term maintenance needs); 109 - Benefits of added storage (fire protection, water pressure, emergency storage); 110 - Storage Type Cost Comparison; 111 112 When the mayor asked how a project like this would be funded, Mr. Grochala said it 113 would be paid from through the Trunk Water Fund and the city would probably use 114 bonds. Mayor Reinert said that it could be a good situation to utilize the self -bonding that 115 has been discussed. He asked staff to bring that idea to the Finance Director, 116 117 - Site Evaluation — a map was shown with four possible sites. The city would be looking 118 at purchasing the necessary property so should think about ideal site characteristics. Staff 119 will seek more geotechnical information if the council directs moving forward. That will 120 include shadow studying to understand impact on residents; 121 122 Community Development Director Grochala explained that the cost of borings would be 123 in the range of $20,000 and he would bring that forward for council consideration later in 124 August. 125 126 Council Member Manthey remarked that the treatment of the city's water needs to be 127 geared toward the best result for this community. Community Development Director 128 Grochala said the city's water quality is very good. 3 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION August 7, 2017 APPROVED 129 4. Watermark-Lennar Revised and Use Plan- City Planner Larsen recalled the 130 presentation in June of Lennar's revised land use plan. There was some discussion of the 131 elimination of 40 foot lots and elimination of larger lots before. (A map of the revised 132 plan was shown on the large screen). The changes from the Mattamy to Lennar proposal 133 are included in the staff report and were reviewed by Ms. Larsen. 134 135 Planner Larsen said the development would like to submit their PUD Amendment plans 136 soon and staff felt the council should have the opportunity for review. Lennar is 137 interested in getting the project moving this fall. She introduced Joe Jablonski 138 representing Lennar Homes who was present to answer questions. A book of Lennar 139 home styles was submitted. 140 141 Mayor Reinert recalled that he had asked which products are anticipated for this 142 development. Mr. Jablonski explained that the color zones on the plan are tied to the 143 products in the booklet. For example, the townhomes would be tied to "colonial manor" 144 home styles. 145 146 When the council discussed the townhouse element, City Planner Larsen explained that 147 the city's requirements will be in force for all elements. 148 149 Mayor Reinert said he'd like to discuss timing and scope. He feels that there is some 150 loss in no longer having a developer grabbing this as a whole who would start with a 151 community center and nice entrance. He sees this proposal as more of a vision than will 152 be chipped away at and there is some risk that it wouldn't get finished. Mr. Jablonski 153 explained that Lennar Homes has contractual obligations with Mattamy that require 154 Lennar to purchase property in segments. They'd like to get going on that first segment 155 this year. 156 157 Mayor Reinert remarked that he'd prefer to take a step back and figure out the whole 158 project. He'd like to hear about any challenges that concern Lennar. He wants to go at 159 this all out with everything in place and mutual agreement. 160 161 Mr. Jablonski said he appreciates the comments but this is a big project for Lennar and 162 there's little change that they can take on the whole thing at once. Knowing that markets 163 and other things can change. They are committed to an HOA amenity. 164 165 Community Development Director Grochala noted that the first purchase is about 130 166 acres, or one third of the site. Mr. Jablonski said the reason they are starting where they 167 are is related to sewer and water; he suspects that in year two there would be more room 168 for discussion about moving ahead to the middle (and the entrance features). 169 170 Mayor Reinert said he doesn't feel the urgency to move on the development as presented. 171 He added that he doesn't care for the back to back townhome element. 172 173 Mr. Jablonski explained the idea of embedding those units where they make sense. They CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION APPROVED August 7, 2017 174 do allow for some diversity. City Planner Larsen reviewed the Mattamy proposal briefly. 175 It was a large first phase but staff understands the mayor's concern; she added that the 176 build out on the area is and has been estimated at ten years. 177 178 Council Member Maher asked if the park shown in Phase 1 is the plan and Mr. Jablonski 179 said not this year but in Phase one, yes. 180 181 Council Member Kusterman remarked that this is a reputable firm who wants to work 182 with the city. He wonders if the risk is not greater with a smaller piece starting this year 183 than having half of the development done and then walk away. 184 185 Council Member Rafferty noted the example of NorthPointe and the size of the phases 186 that worked there — they were quite small. He is leaning to an understanding that the 187 smaller phases can work. 188 189 Council Member Manthey said he is looking at the investment involved here; he would 190 like to have a whole project as well but isn't understanding how that can be guaranteed. 191 192 Council Member Maher asked why Lennar hasn't purchased the entire site and Mr. 193 Jablonski said their business plan doesn't call for those huge purchases and financially it 194 isn't feasible. The business' purchase agreement is for the whole property and they are 195 requesting approval of the plan for the whole thing. He added that Lennar is the biggest 196 homebuilder in the area so he'd wonder if there would be a company that could take on a 197 larger commitment than them. He is being honest about plans. He noted the park and 198 suggested that if it was built first, there would be no one to utilize it not to mention that 199 getting input on what people want in their park is an option if you wait until the people 200 are there. 201 202 City Planner Larsen explained Mattamy's first phase plan in comparison to the Lennar 203 proposal. 204 205 Staff explained that the purpose of the discussion was to receive council comments on the 206 Lennar plans; they will take the comments received and more information will be 207 forthcoming. 208 5. City Paths and Planning for Them- Council Member Rafferty noted that the 209 council recently received a letter from some citizens who reside along a path in the city. 210 There was concern about plant growth along the path. He thought that it would be 211 appropriate to have an update about that type of vegetation situation from responsible city 212 staff. He's also suggesting communication to developers who include paths in their work 213 to clarifiy what's required. 214 215 Public Services Director DeGardner introduced Mike Hoffman, Parks Supervisor. 216 Director DeGardner noted that there are 30 miles of trails in the city and they are 217 inspected at least twice a year. There are some situations inherent to trails where 5 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION APPROVED August 7, 2017 218 encroachments can occur; staff takes the position that encroachments are reported to 219 residents with time to rectify and, if not settled, it is done by the city. He noted that there 220 could be some confusion about property lines due to the non -exact nature of 221 encroachments that sometimes occur when the trails go in; that isn't happening any more 222 with the current planning staff and use of outlot establishment for the trails but it has 223 happened in the past. 224 225 When Mr. DeGardner explained how staff manages the situation, Mr. Hoffinan added 226 that staff attempts to educate residents through use of articles in the newsletter. 227 6. Natural Resources Revolving Fund Plan- Community Development Director 228 Grochala and Environmental Coordinator Asleson reported. Mr. Grochala explained the 229 process that has brought the city forward to this point of having a revolving fund plan. 230 The plan includes maintenance as well. He reviewed the goal of the plan. 231 232 Mayor Reinert asked if there is a way to see how this ends or reaches the goal. What's the 233 perspective? 234 235 Director Grochala said the concept has been to get the ball rolling. There is a bank now 236 and next the city will have to decide on an appropriate price. The plan is based on the 237 city's existing greenway plan. It consists of two banks — Otter Lake and Woolan's park. 238 He reviewed the site selection objectives and then six potential additional sites. The 239 report also identified options for wetland credit compensation. 240 241 Mayor Reinert asked about the maintenance liability and Director Grochala explained that 242 there is a plan in place (required) for long term maintenance and funding for that work is 243 included in the plan. 244 245 Director Grochala requested council approval to proceed with the plan (to next council 246 agenda). Mayor Reinert asked if the council is giving up any authority by passing the 247 plan and Mr. Grochala said no. 248 249 7. 2018 Street Reconstruction Project Update — Community Development 250 Director Grochala updated the council on the current state of the project (no petition was 251 received). This will be a very involved project (sewer and water, culvert replacement, 252 right of way acquisition) coming forward. Initially data collection will move forward 253 (i.e. well information, data from property owners). On LaMotte, there will be sump 254 pump information gathering connected to the high water level and the possibility of a 255 storm sewer in the project. He then reviewed the WSB & Associates proposal to prepare 256 the plans and specifications for the project. 257 258 Mayor Reinert asked if this is a feasibility study and Director Grochala said no, this 259 would be design (plans and specs) and engineering right up to the bidding. Mayor 260 Reinert recalled discussion with residents about when their input would occur and he 261 understands this is it. Director Grochala said part of the process will be meeting with 0 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION August 7, 2017 APPROVED 262 the residents, including in the field, and that will help to inform the design process. 263 264 Council Member Rafferty asked about administrative costs. Director Grochala said there 265 will be another contract proposal after the project is bid; that is standard process that 266 allows more understanding of what will be needed as far as administration. 267 268 Director Grochala continued to explain the process for this project that lays ahead. This 269 anticipates a 429 process for sewer and water if that is the way it goes; he feels there is an 270 expectation that sanitary sewer will be included. 271 272 Council Member Maher noted that the staff report includes language indicating that the 273 project design will include culvert replacement and a stormwater lift station on West 274 Shadow. She knows there is resident questions about those elements. Director Grochala 275 explained that the contract includes the cost of designing the lift station but that's just to 276 ensure the cost is anticipated if it is needed and that hasn't been decided and actually is an 277 element that staff would like to avoid. Mr. Grochala added that staff is working with the 278 watershed district and the state to explore opportunities for grant funding and also with 279 Anoka County since they own the golf course in the area. 280 281 The council concurred that staff will bring the matter forward for council consideration. 282 8. Centennial Fire District Unemployment Case Update —Administrator Karlson 283 reviewed his written report. The matter of unemployment benefits for a certain former 284 employee of the Centennial Fire District has been litigated and appealed. 285 286 The council discussed the history of the legal consideration of the matter, the financial 287 impact to the taxpayers of all involved, and the request of the Centennial Fire District 288 administration that the City pay a portion of the costs. The council concurred that the 289 City will not elect to pay for any of the unemployment costs. 290 9. Peddler/Solicitor/Transient Merchant Ordinance —City Clerk Bartell reviewed 291 her written report updating the council on the city's regulations regarding door to door 292 sales. Council Member Maher asked if the city would be able to restrict the number of 293 licenses issued for a certain type of sales and the city clerk pointed out the League of 294 Minnesota Cities memorandum on this type of licensing that seems to guide cities away 295 from that type of restriction. 296 297 The council reviewed the information on license fees and discussed the possibility of 298 charging an investigation fee. Public Safety Director Swenson commented a very large 299 number of backgrounds have been performed by his staff recently, with a lot of staff time 300 involved, so he sees it is appropriate to charge something for that service. The council 301 will discuss the license and possible addition of an investigation fee when the city fee 302 schedule comes forward for consideration in the fall. 7 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION August 7, 2017 APPROVED 303 10. Public Works Facility =Mayor Reinert explained that he has met with 304 staff and has received much more information on this subject and will be receiving more. 305 Perhaps that information will includes what he felt was lacking earlier. He feels it could 306 be beneficial for city officials to look at other facilities. 307 308 Council Member Manthey asked about the goal of touring other facilities. Administrator 309 Karlson can work with other city staff to arrange visits. Council Member Kusterman said 310 he'd be happy to share some documents that he has from the City of Shoreview and their 311 process of phasing improvements. 312 313 The council agreed on the date of Tuesday, August 22, 5:30 p.m. 314 7. Council Updates on Boards/Commissions, City Council 315 8. Monthly Progress Report —Administrator Karlson reviewed the progress report. 316 This item included an update on the Laserfiche project by the City Clerk. 317 9. Review Regular Agenda —The agenda for the August 14, 2017 council meeting 318 was reviewed and there were no changes. 319 320 The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m. 321 322 These minutes were considered, corrected and approved at the regular Council meeting held on 323 August 28, 2017. 324 325 326 32 ` �-•-� 328 Julia e Bartell, City Clerk 329 E:3