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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/15/1978 P&Z MinutesThe regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 8:08 P.M. Wednesday, November 15, 1978 by Chairman Gourley. Members present: Gourley, Mattson, Bohjanen, Reinert, Schwankl. Mr. Hill arrived at 9:15 P.M. Members absent: Shearen. Mr. McLean Council Liason was also present. Mr. Reinert moved to accept the October 18, 1978 minutes as written. Mr. Bohjanen seconded the motion. Motion declared passed. Mr. McLeans Report Mr. McLean reported on the actions of the October 23, 1978 Council meeting in regards to Planning and Zoning Board recommendations. He further noted: - Puolic Hearing for the plat Rice Lake Addition 111 was held and - Mr. Dobie's road right of way was accepted. - Public Hearing for plat Caroles Estates 11 was held on November was accepted. approved. 13, 1978 and the plat - Mr. Manning request to build a garage is still pending (Mr. Mobley has proceeded with construction without permits.) - Forrest Tagg - still pending, will be in court November 20, 1978. - Construction trailer on Lake Drive has been removed. - County no longer requires hard shells from platters - City acceptea the cul - de - sac off of West Shadow Lake Drive Plat - Oak Knoll Addition, Ronald Van Kleek noted that Mr. Manning Mr. Van Kleek presented a topog map of his proposed plat and a letter written by Mr. Dobie. The Clerk read the letter to the Board. Mr. Dobie's brother - in - law was also present to represent Mr. Dobie this evening. Mr. Gourley noted that a warantee deed will be needed for the street Blue Bell Lane. Mr. Reinert told Mr. Van Kleek, based on what has already been presented, he could see no problem and he should proceed with the plat. Mr. Gourley asked the Clerk to send copies of the plat map and topog map to the Engineer, Planner and Anoka County Highway Department for their comments. He also asked Mr. Locher to lay out the procedure for a street that is located half on one plat and half on another. Allan Letourneau - Variance Mr. and Mrs. Letourneau have requested a variance to add a 10' wide parcel of land to their present parcel so they can build a garage with the required set back from the side lot line. Mr. Bohjanen moved to recommend that this variance be accepted with the stipulation that this parcel be recorded with the original parcel as one lot. Mrs. Schwankl seconded the motion. Motion declared passed. Jerry Blackbird - North Northeast Reality Mr. Blackbird asked the Board if they will require 1,175 square feet on the mann floor of a split entry quadriminimum. Presently the City requires 960 square feet in a single family split entry and asked if this footage for quads could be reduced to the same footage. He explained the design of quads and said they were very popular and selling well all around the Cities and provided maximum use of the land as well as lower cost housing. Mr. Bohjanen said it would seem they would conserve more energy and upkeep would be at a minimum. Page -2- November 15, 1978 Mr. Reinert asked if this type of housing would be causing more density than townhouses? Mr. Blackbird said not much more since the developer must provide more streets and drive- ways. All other ordinance requirements would be complied with. Mr. Mattson said these are changing times and other types of housing are coming in. Mr. Gourley told Mr. Blackbird to submit some ,logical date to the City Engineer so he can recommend the Board change its ordinances regarding quads. North Northeast Reality should also submit information to indicate that the density will not be substantially larger than what is zoned for in this area proposed for quads. Dennis Cunningham - Variance Mr. Cunningham presented a variance to construct an assessory building before building the primiary building on property he owns on Cedar Street. He presented a drawing showing the layout of the horse barn, arena, house as well as other structures he plans to build in the future. Mr. McLean asked if the Clerk had pulled the file on Carriage House Stables so that the procedure for this installation could be handled in the same manner. She said she would. Mr. Bohjanen said the Board should carefully consider the commercial aspect of this operat- ion, adequate parking, adequate access, etc. A Special Use Permit would be needed. Mr. Gourley asked the Clerk to pull the file on Carriage House Stables and send copies of the file to the City Planner and all P & Z Board members to_,consider at the next Board meet.i.ng. Mr. Reinert asked Mr. Cunningham what his long range plans were. Mr. Cunningham explained within in the next three to five years he plans to build an indoor riding facility and the dwelling next spring. Mr. Cunningham was told he would be placed on the December 20, 1978 P & Z agenda. Richard Klenck - Land Use Mr. Klenck said he was here to request two things. He presently owns just under 10 acres of land and is trying to get more high ground by ponding and hauling fill dirt into his land. The land is useless for development but what he is doing is good for the wild life. He stated that at the time he started he did not know he needed permits from DNR, Rice Creek Water Shed District and the City. Mr. Mobley has informed him this summer the permits are required. he now plans to build a pole building for storage of two dump trucks,etc. He plans to locate the building far engough back on his property so as to be out of the sight of the neighbors. Mr. Mobley said the usage of the building is commercial and the P & Z Board would have to reveiw this request. Mr. McLean asked Mr. Mobley if there was any problem with the building itself. Mr. Mobley said none, however, the problem is usage of the land. Mr. Gourley explained since Mr. Klenck is not operating an agricwltural venture a Land Use Permit is not needed, however, a building permit is required. Permits are being obtained from the DNR and RCWD. A Special Use Permit will be needed to store heavy equipment in the new building. Page -3- November 15, 1978 Mr. Hill asked if there will be a problem with the new building being located so far off the street. Mr. Gourley said there would be no problem with the ordinance in this area. Mr. Gourley explained the purpose of the Special Use Permit and said if Mr. Klenck has it prepared properly and to the Clerk 10 days prior to the December 20, 1978 Board meeting this Board will consider it then. Roy Stanley - Variance Mr. Stanley had presented two xariances to split two lots in Sunset Oaks. Mr. Hill cal- culated each new lot would be one plus acres and have adequate frontages. Mr. Gourley noted the fee paid was fgr two new lots and an additional $50.00 would be required since four new lots will be created. Mr. Bohjanen moved to recommend the Council approve these variances subject to receipt of the additional $50.00. Mr. Reinert seconded the motion. Motion declared passed. Mar Don Homes Mar Don Homes had sent a concept drawing of a proposed retail sales and office building to the P & Z Board for their comments. They, plan to locate this proposed building on a commercial lot on Lake Drive in the Caroles Estates 11 plat. Mr. Gourley said he could not see any problem with the usage of this lot, however, it must meet setbacks, parking requirements etc. as required by ordinance. He asked the Clerk to inform Mar Don Homes of this. Mr. Hill suggested the Clerk ask Mar Don Homes to study the parking facilities better. Gene Mobley - Zoning Mr. Mobley explained that the property he owns at 6910 - 22nd Avenue is zoned commercial but limited to antiques sales and warehousing. He now plans to build a building to house mostly recreational vehicles ( he will rent spaces for the storage of these vehicles). It is strictly a cold storage building. Mr. McLean suggested that Mr. Mobley rezone to a classification that would be broad enough to cover any use he could anticipate in the future. He felt since this property is totally surrounded by the Acton Company industrial park there should be no problem rezoning this property. Mr. Gourley suggested rezonig to General Business. Mr. McLean told Mr. Mobley to pick up the material in the Clerks office and start the procedure. Mr. Mobley asked if he could speak to the Board a.,minute on another subject, holding ponds. Presently the Rice Creek Watershed District (RCWD) is requiring holding ponds on new plats. He explained the problem that this is going to create in building up water eventually caus- ing the water to flow back into basements and causing massive soil contamination. Mr. Reinert explained that the RCWD is suppose to be a systems Board assisting Cities in their over all plan for water flow. Mr. Mobley said this is absolutely not done. There is not anyone on that Board that understands this problem and an overall system is not being dev- eloped and he wanted the P & Z Board and Council to be aware that a problem is being created. Mr. Reinert asked, in your dealing with the RCWD have they not looked at a total system? Mr. Mobley said absolutely not. Mr. McLean noted that the Clerk is presently trying to set up a meeting with the RCWD and Page -4- November 15, 1978 Our Council and consultants to discuss and resolve this problem. He will bet this Board know when this meeting will take place. Mr. Gourley told the Board he had met with Mr. Mobley on Tuesday and had asked Mr. Mobley to sit in on the P & Z Board meetings so that they can call upon him when additional in- formation is needed regarding his department. Mr. Joyer, representing North Northeast Realty presented the Board with a sketch of some property owned by William & Anna Waldoch. The sketch proposes a long driveway of 773' and 33' wide with no other frontage on Lake. Drive. He asked if the P & Z Board would go along with this or require 150' frontage which would be available if needed. Mr. Joyer was told they would need 150' frontage and since there is more than 2.5 acres only a long driveway variance would be needed. Molin Concrete Mr. Mobley explained the situation with Molin Concrete regarding the lot that faces 4th Avenue. He had also sent a memo with his findings. Mr. McLean felt there should be some contact with Molin to determine what their plans -are regarding future expansion. Mr. Mobley said he and Mr. Volk could visit them and resolve this with one visit. Mrs. Schwankl moved to forward this matter on to the Council with the recommendation that Mr. Mobley and Mr. Volk determine how to protect 4th Avenue and provide adequate drainage along Molin Concrete. Mr. Reinert seconded the motion. Motion declared passed. Mr. Mobley told the Board regarding the situation with Mr. Klenck he had abused Rolling Hills Drive with is heavy equipment and when informed he would be responsible he brought in his own patching material and tried to repair the street. It will do for now, hoever, Mr. Volk would have appreciated it if Mr. Klenck would have contact him first for instructions. Mr. McLean said the City Clerk had written to Mr. Herbst telling him to removed the decaying building on his property or the City would place it under condemnation and remove it. Mr. McLean noted that the Highway Department had given Selchow Chevrolet permission to con- struct a sign on a silo near 35E and Main Street and had not stayed within the recommended guide lines for spacing signs. Mr. Mobley said the sign to the south of the silo had been removed and believed this solved this situation. Mr. McLean said the Board had become a variance and special us permit board and should get back to the business of City planning. The Comprehensive Land Use Plan must be completed shortly. Mr. Reinert said he felt there should be professional people present at these meetings and Mr. McLean said he could have the City Harmer, Engineer and Attorney available whenever the Board needs them. In the process of planning, Mr. Reinert suggested that these meetings be set up in advance and an agenda planned so that the Board will not be wasting the professional persons time and the Cities money. Mr. McLean noted three items that need immediate consideration: Land Use Plan, Street Lighting, and Street numbering. Mr. Gourley said Street Lighting had been dealt with and passed on to the Council. Mr. McLean asked the Clerk to check to see what happened to the Ordinance. Page -5- November 15, 1978 Mr. Reinert moved to afjourn at 10:25 P.M. Mr. Hill seconded the motion. Aye.