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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06/16/1976 P&Z MinutesJune 16, 1976 The Planning and Zoning Board met on June 16, 1976 at 8:00 P.M. Mr. Gourley Chairman, was absent due to conflicting meetings. Mr. Nadeau, Vice -Chair- man, resigned from that position and asked for a motion to accept his resign- ation. Mr. Kelling moved to relieve Mr. Nadeau of his duties as Vice -Chairman for this meeting only. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Motion carried. Mr. Shearen moved to appoint Mr. Kelling as Chairman of this meeting. Sec- onded by Mr. Karth. Motion carried. Mr. Kelling called the meeting to order at 8:20 P.M. Members present; Karth, Nadeau, Shearen. Absent; Gourley, Hill. Mr. McLean was also present. Mr. Shearen moved to approve the minutes of May 19, 1976 as presented. Seconded by Mr. Nadeau. Motion carried unanimously. The first item on the agenda was the consideration of an 80 acre parcel to be divided into 2g acre lots with a private airstrip. This was presented by Mr. Roger Kolstad. The lots would run to the center of the airstrip and would be a corporate holding by the owners of all the lots. The preliminary plat has two street, both dead ending at the Western edge of the property. Mr. Kolstad explained this was for the purpose of discour- aging traffic. He also requested the requirement of curbing be eliminated since planes will be taxiing from the strip to parking on the lots. Mr. Kolstad said the streets could be wrapped around at the West end but he would prefer not to if possible. Mr. Kelling said this would have to be forwarded to the Planner and the Engineer for their recommendations. Mr. Nadeau asked about the adjoining property owners and Mr. Kolstad said he had consulted with the owners to the North and South of the property and had found no objections. It was suggested he also talk with the owners of the land to the East and West. Mr. Kolstad said he would. Mr. Nadeau asked about the requirements of the aeronautical board and Mr. Kolstad said he has an appointment on June 17, 1976 to discuss this matter with them. Mr. Kolstad said this would be a 2500 foot airstrip and would be for the 32 people who own the adjoining lots. This is not a public air- port. Mr. Karth asked where the planes would be worked on and Mr. Kolstad said possibly in the private hangers or the planes could be taken to Forest Lake or the Anoka Airport for checks and maintenance. There are some mechanics who will come to the private homes and do themaintenance at that location. Mr. Shearen moved to submit these plans to the Planner and Engineer for their recommendations. Seconded by i1r. Karth. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Blackbird, representing North -Northeast Realty, presented the Board with a revised plat for Pine Haven. There was also an extensive report from Dolan Engineering. Mr. Short and Mr. Gotwatd both concurred with the re- commendations of that firm. Page -2- June 16, 1976 Mr. Kelling asked Mr. Gotwald if the installation of septic systems has been revised to account for automatic washers, dis washers, etc.? Mr. Gotwald said this is reflected in the increased size of tanks and length of drain - fields to handle the increase In water volume. Mr. Mobley, Building Inspector, said the installation has increased in total volume by about one-third. Mr. Nadeau asked if there was any way of removing the cul-de-sac without losing a lot and Mr. Blackbird said they would loose more than one tot by removing the cul-de-sac. Mr. Shearen moved to recommend to the Council approval of the Pine Haven Plat. Seconded by Mr. Karth. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Landers, of Sunrise Avenue, presented an application for a special use permit for the parking of cars on his property and the repair of small eng- ine parts in his garage. Mr. McLean asked if this request was for parking the cars of the income prop- erty and Mr. Mobley said it was for obth. Getting the family cars off the right-of-way is the primary use but to also allow the repair of engine parts in the garage. Mr. Kelling felt the recommendation would have to make note of the noise and /or limit the hours. One of the problems would be solved by allowing the parking of the cars in the yard. Mr. Nadeau asked how far from the right-of-way the garage was constructed and Mr. Mobley said, 71 feet. Mr. McLean asked if the problems on the structure had been corrected? Mr. Mobley said he had re-evaluated the building and the: permit has been upgraded to reflect the cost of the construction. The old permit has been cancelled and a new one issued. He has made a recommendation for reinforcing the build- ing and this work has begun. rnce the inside is completed the outside will be taken care of. Mr. McLean asked when will it be completed and Mr. Mobley said this cost is being paid for as the construction is done - felt that the structural work should be done before winter. He thought that maybe some of the out- side work could be done this year but the bulk would not be done until some time next year. Mr. Shearen asked how many property owners were involved? Since Mr. Landers only had two signatures, Mr. Shearen felt there should be at least 2/3rds of the abutting property owners. Mr. Hill arrived at 9:00 P.M. Mr. Karth asked if the cars parked at that location are all personal cars and Or. Landers said, Yes, there are no junk cars. Mr Mobley said the yard is immucalute. Mr. McLean asked if some of the cars might be the ones he would be work- ing on and Mr. Landers said it would be possible. The work would be done in the garage and no later than 10:00 P.M. Page -3- June 16, 1976 There was a suggestion of screening on the North side of the lot and the parking area be blacktopped. Mr. Mobley said the screening is right and felt this would be done, but, he felt thbt a square of blacktopping in the middle of the yard would be out of place. Mr. Karth asked how many cars there were in the family and Mr. Landers said, counting the pickup there are five. Mr. Nadeau asked if there was a proposal for additional construction and Mr. Landers said, No. There was discussion on the method of screening with some suggestions of fencing and some shrubs. It was felt the shrubs would be better than the fence. Mr. Nadeau moved to recommend approval of this special use permit with a screening of trees or shrubs along Elm Street, with Mr. Landers to ob- tain at least one more signature on the petition. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Motion carried with Mr. Hill voting, No. Mr. Mobley presented the Planning and Zoning Board with recommendations that he would ask the Board to condone his enforcing. These points are alt part of the State Building Code which the City has adopted by refer- ence. The first is the building fee schedule which is nowin use; second - Plan checking fees (Mr. Shearen said the building code has been adopted, all iMr. Mobley has to do is enforce the law), third - re -inspection fees - same thing; fourth - occupancy certificate - the Board agreed. Mr. Keiling asked about someone building their own home and wants to move in before entirely completed. Mr. Mobley said a temporary occupancy certificate could be granted. They must make application for the temporary occupancy and wilt be given nine months to complete the dwelling. Mr. Mobley volunteered to police the usary portion of the law. He will enforce this provision in the building codes. He is also starting to police the septic systems. Mr. Nadeau &sked about the Plan checking fee. This amounts to the build- ing fee. Mr. Shearen asked Mr. Edmundson, a contractor in the audience, if he ran into this provision. Mr. Edmundson said the contractor is res- ponsible for bringing the complete plan with the 'R' factor. Mr. Keliing moved to give the Building Inspector a vote of confidence and adopt by reference the portion of the State Building Code Mr. Mobley is concerned about. Mr. Shearen felt the reinspection fee is fine but felt the Plan checking fee was out of line. Mr. Mobley reminded Mr. Shearen, the Building Insp- ector is responsible for the Plans meeting the State Building Code in both construction and the 'R' factor. Mr. Gotwald said in most cases the Building Inspector charges the Plan inspection fee but if the Plans are complete the cost can be reimbursed for the 'R' factor. Mr. Nadeau felt the Plan checking fee is good. He felt the Building In- spector was responsible for this to the people and the City. If this is Page -4- June 16, 1976 not checked out by the Building Inspector, who else will do it? Mr. Shearen moved to table this paint for further discussion. Seconded by Mr. Karth. Motion carried. Mr. Le Vessuer asked the Planning and Zoning Board about splitting his lot on 77th Street. Mr. Nadeau moved that Mr. Le Vessuer get a certified sur- vey on the property and locate the drain fields on his new home. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Motion carried. Mr. Le Vessuer was told the Board has no objections to thesplit but it would be necessary to have a certified survey for transfer of title. Mr. Edmundson presented his prelimary plat for 40 acres located at the end of 62nd Street. This plat contains 29 lots varing from 1 acre to 2 acres and is called 'Colonial Woods'. Mr. Gotwald informed the Board that he is part owner in this land but the plans had been drawn for them by another firm in order to avoid a confl- ict of interest. Mr. Edmundson said the lots had been drawn so as to conform with the nat- ural drainage and to preserve the trees. The streets will be completely installed before any building takes place. If this plat is approved, Mr. Edmundson ;•opes to have the street installed this fall. There is also an extra 162 foot easement along the South edge of the land to bring the easement to 33' for future development of a street. Mr. Edmundson was told it would be necessary to get some soil borings. This matter should then be sent to the Planner and the Engineer. Mr. Nadeau moved to recommend approval of the preliminary plat with the stipulation that at least 3 soil borings be completed, the soil typed and confirmed, the feasibility of on-site septic systems be confirmed; the plans be approved by the Planner and the Engineer and aneasement of 162 feet along the South edge for future road purposes. Also, money be accept- ed in lieu of land for park purposes. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Motion carried. The resolution rquired by the Metro Council was discussed. Mr. Short said the proposed Resolution written by Mr. Starr ties this City to the Requirements as stipulated at the last meeting. Mr. Short had inquired about assistance from the Metro Council and he had received favorable accept- ance of his request. On the first page of the Resolution, under point 3, subdivision b, place a period after the word 'standards' in the second line and delete the re- mair.,;er of that sentence. Mr. Hill moved to recommend the adoption of this Resolution to the Council, with the above revision. Seconded by Mr. Karth. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Nadeau presented the Board with a list of three names where he felt residential property was being used as commercial. He felt these persons should be contacted and the matter investigated. Mr. Nadeau so moved. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Motion carried. Mr. Shearen moved to adjourn at 11:30 P.M. Seconded by Mr. Nadeau. Aye.