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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05/26/1976 P&Z MinutesMay 26, 1976 A special ",meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was called to ordrat 7:40 P.M. by Chairman Gourley. Members present; Nadeau, Kelling, Shearen, Karth. Absent; Hill. Mr. McLean was also present. Mayor Bohjanen, Councilmen Karth and Zelinka, Engineer Gotwald, and Planning Consultant Short were in the audience. Representing the Metropolitan Council Advisory Staff on Planning was Mr. Lee Starr and Mr. James Barton. This meeting had been called for the purpose of discussing the needed regulatory ordinances the City will be required to adopt in order to utilize the reserve capacity in the force main interceptor now planned for installa- tion to serve Country Lakes, Shenandoah and the Baldwin Lake Trailer Court. Mr. Starr presented the members with a list of expectations this City must comply with before any additional connections to the interceptor wi•I1 be approved. The first step required from the City is the adoption of a Resolution stating the City's intentions to protect the Metropolitan Council investments in the interceptor. This will limit development in the South West corner of the City to the number of homes dictated by the capacity built into the interceptor. The next step for the City is to draft ordinance that will control this development, have the ordinance reviewed by the Metropolitan Council for their approval, then adopt the ordinances. Mr. McLean asked if their basis concern is to protect the Metropolitan investment in the interceptor so that it is not allowed to become over used and Mr. Starr said, Yes, but also to prevent pollution problems from occuring in other areas. Mr. Barton said the reason the interceptor is being built is the Metropolitan Council admits that part of the problem is their responsibility in that the projects were approved and allowed to develop by the Metropolitan Council. But,once--the interceptor is built to serve the problem areas, this relieves them of any responsibility in this area. Any other problem area then become the responsibility of Lino Lakes. Mr. McLean asked, until when? Mr. Barton said, 10 or 15 years. Mr. McLean asked the proposed capacity for the interceptor and Mr. Gotwald said it would serve approximately 700 units. Mr. McLean asked Mr. Short if he had any idea the cost of revising the City's Comprehensive Land Use Plan to conform to the demands of the Metro- politan Council and Mr. Short said he had not done any computations as yet. Mr. McLean asked Mr. Starr the cost of the original plan and Mr. Starr said $2500.00. Mr. Starr added there is planning assistance monies available from the Metropolitan Council for the revision ofthis plan and he felt that Lino Lakes would qualify for this assistance. Mr. McLean asked how long would it take to receive approval of these funds? Mr. Barton said the funds would not be available until August and only Step 3 in the proposal would be eligible for funding. Timing is a problem since the funds would probably not be granted until Fall. Mr. McLean asked if the grant would 'pay back'? Mr. Barton thought 'maybe' but didn't know for certain since these applications must go through several committees. Mr. McLean said the City may or niay not get assistance on approximately Page Two- May 26, 1976 $3,000.00 to revise the Comprehensive Land Use Plan that has not been budgeted. Mr. Shearen asked how this assistance is computed is it on a percentage basis? Mr. Barton said the would be based on the costs incurred by the staff in their assistance to the City. Step I is the necessity for passing the Resolution setting forth the intentions of the City. Step II. -will be to determine the area thatwill be served by the inter- ceptor and designate this as the interim service area and all other areas will be designated as a rural service area. There are several ways to control the development in the rural service area such as the adoption of a soils map as part of,the zoning ordinance. If a developer can substantiate on-site system workability, the project could proceed. Mr. McLean asked if a decision such as this would not then void the map? Is there any implication the Metropolitan Council can then step in and stop the project? 'Mr. Starr said, No. Mr. Barton said if the workability can be proven, the map could be overridden. Mr. Starr said another tool is a wetlands protection zone - to exempt these areas from development. This might also be included in the soil restriction map. There was discussion of zoning land as agricultural in relationship to the suggested denesity of an area. Some felt this would deter a farmer from doing anything with his land except farming. Mr. Zelinka felt the City is meeting the requirements and now need specifics not generalities. Mr. Barton said they are not saying the City is wrong. Mr. Zelinka said he didn't expect to see which ordinance are wrong but which ordinance the Metropolitan Council would like to see in the way of revisions or changes. There was discussion on the septic tank regulations and what this would include. Mr. Zelinka said at one meeting the statement was made, that if a system is pumped too often, it would have to be replaced. Mr. Zelinka has his system pumped approximately once a year, Would this indicate hi.; system should be replaced? Mr. Barton said this would seem to be preventative maintenance. He said the Metropolitan Council has model ordinances that covers areas not covered by the State Code and includes monitoring of existing systems. Mr. McLean questioned the method of monitoring the existing system - who does the inspection? who pays for this? and how? Mr. Barton said the method is set by the ordinance and the home owner pays one way or another. He said it could be put on the taxes. Mayor Bohjanen asked for a definition of the S.A.C. How can people be asked to pay this charge in areas where they will never get sewers? Will these persons get a refund of the monies already paid? and will they get interest on their money? rage lnree May 26, 1976 Mr. Barton said they are in the process of re -defining the sewer service 'boundaries and no decisions have been made on this. They are aware of the "problem. Mr. Zelinka said the Metropolitan Council is asking the City to define what the City will not do as to service - Can the Metropolitan Council tell us what they will do as to when service will be where. Mr Zelinka felt this is a two-way street. Mr. Barton agreed. The Metropolitan system statement due before July 1, 1977 will state the capacity of a systen and when that capacity will be available to the communities. This statement must be completed by the above date. Mr. Zelinka asked, if it would not be benificial to the staff if some person with expert knowledge said in on the evaluation sessions. He was speaking particularly of Mr. Gotwald. Mr. Barton said the statement will be based on population forecasts - once the statement is out it can be reviewed by the local communities and the problems worked out. If it should come to an impasse, there is provisions for an appeal. Mr. Zelinka felt it would be better to the the information and do it correct in the first place and save the time and cost of revision. Mr. Barton said this statement does not lock anyone into anything since it must be reviewed and revised once every four years. So, even though service to certain areas may be noted in the original statement, in four years it could be revised to exclude this area. Mr. McLean asked the meaning of 'low density'? Mr. Starr said less than 40 units per square mile. The lot sizes may vary - not necessarily a required 10 acre lot. Mr. Barton said this requirement is being reviewed for possible changes. There was general discussion on the requirements. Mr. Starr will get copies of the model ordinance on septic systems and monitoring these systems to the Planner and the Engineer. They will also get copies of the ones used to formulate the model. Mr. Gotwald asked if the design will conform to the PCA regulations and it was felt that it would. Mr. McLean said then what the Metropolitan Council is looking for is 1) septic system controls and monitoring, 2) lot sizes, 3) define the urban service area and 4) the rural service area. Mr. McLean wondered if the zoning classifications as set up in Ordinance #56 would need to be changed and Mr. Barton felt that just additions would be necessary. There was discussion on the Lexington Park Lakeview area and the need for utilities in that area. Mr. Barton felt if this Board can agree to the general outline, they will refine the requirements. A special meeting was set for 7:30 P.M., June 7, 1976 for more consideration. This will give the Council time to finalize the Resolution at the last regualr meeting in June. Mr. Nadeau moved to adjourn at 10:15 P.M. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Aye.