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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/19/1975 P&Z MinutesFEBRUARY 19, 1975 The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 8:05 P.M. by Chairman Karth on February 20, 1975. Members present: Keiiing, Hill, Nadeau, Shearen and L'Aliier. Members absent: Lombardi, Councilman Marier was also present. Mr. Keiiing moved to accept the minutes of the January 15, 1975 as written. Mr. Shearen seconded the motion. Motion carried. The first item for discussion was John Tobish and his request to park a mobile home at 6192 Hodgson Road for the purpose of research and development of new products for mobile homes and recreational vehicles. Mr. Tobish has been ticketed with a violation of Ordinance No. 56, Section 4.11 and this has gone to court and on February 7, 1975 Mr. Tobish was ordered to remove the mobile home trailer from the "premises known as 6192 Hodgson Road prior to April 15, 1975 or that prior to that time he obtain the necessary license or permit from the City of Lino Lakes..." Mr. Tobish asked if he could park his trailer there and obtain the nec- essary permits so that he would not have to move and so he could begin the work that he wanted to do. Mr. Karth asked him what the nature of his work is and why he needed to park it there rather than in an established park. Mr. Tobish said that he was doing experimental work on skirting for trail- ers and humidification for mobile homes and recreational vehicles. He also stated that because of the nature of his work, it would be rather difficult to have the trailer parked anywhere that people would have access to it an any time. He said that he would be working on it on weekends and perhaps into the night at times and he did not feel that a mobile home park would allow this type of work to be done where it would be a nuisance to any of the neighbors that he would have there. He stated that he would not be living at that location and he would take the stove and refrigerator out and strip the unit of all furniture to make it un-lieveable. He will not have to hook up the sewer but would need water only. Mr. Karth then restated that the city does not allow mobile home to be parked anywhere except in an established park for the specific purposes of mobile homes. Mr. Karth asked Mr. Tobish what type of utilities he would need there and Mr. Tobish stated that he would only need water and would not need sewer services. Mr. Tobish was asked if he would not need sewer service to dispose of the water he would be using. He stated that he would not need running water end that the only water he would need would be to add water to the humidifier as needed. FEBRUARY 19, 1975 -2- Mr. Shearon asked if there were any other buildings on the property. Mr. Tobish said, yes there was a f concrete and f wood garage that is one unit and in back of that there is a smaller garage. Mr. Kelting said that years ago there was a bowling pin refinishing place there and it had burned down. Mr. Ketling then asked Mr. Tobish if he couldn't put up a pole building and put the trailer inside it and conduct his experiements inside and then there would not be a question of un - s i ght I enesa .nor _wow d -441e-re•-tve- . e . prObtern of -a bag- set- fbr poi..yrat-ers throughout the City. Mr. Tobish said that it would be too much of an expense'for him to put up a building to house a 16 x 55 trailer and besides what would he do with it when his work was finished there. He did not think he would be able to sell it. Mr. Marier then asked him how long the Tobish replied since November of 1973. then? Mr. Tobish replied, no only for to apply for a permit. Mr. Marier asked why he had not done so a ticket had been issued and the matter trailer had been there and Mr. Mr. Marler said for two years 1f years and I have been waiting earlier? Why did he wait until went through the courts. Mr. Tobish said that he went'to the Council in June and was told that he had to appear before the P & Z but before he had time he got the ticket. He said the matter wbnt to court and he asked for a jury trial but the Judge denied a trial by jruy and instead called he and Mr. Locher his chambers and told Mr. Tobish that he had until April 15, 1975 tore- moveit or get the permission of the City to keep it there. Mr. Karth then motioned to recommend to the City Council that the request of John Tobish to park a mobile home at 6192 Hodgson Road, Lino Lakes for use as an experimental unit be denied in accordance with the Village Ordinance No. 51, Section 4.11. Mr. Kelting seconded the motion. Motion carreid unanimously. Mr. Tobish then asked if he had to remove the trailer by April 15, 1975? He also asked if he put up the pole building that Mr. Keiling had recom- mended would he be allowed to keep the trailer there? Mr. Marier reminded Mr. Tobish that the had already turned that option down as not practical to you. Mr. Tobish then stated that he has one other option available to him - he can and will rent it to a motorcycle club for $400.00 per month. 1 will move and rent it to the motorcycle club, he stated. The next item of business was Gary automatic transmission repair shop He lives at 660 - 79th Street; his his house is on. FEBRUARY 19, 1975 -3- Morehouse's request to have an in his garage for about one year. parents own the 40 acres that Mr. Karth asked him if there was ample roadway (driveway) and facilities for parking. Mr. Morehouse said that they have about a 200' driveway and plenty of space for parking near the garage. There was a question about the exact location of the garage, If it is outside the 300' commercial strip and it is probable that it is. The general opinion of the P & Z is that a Special Use Permit would be the route to take. The question of providing restroom facilities was brought up and it was deceided that since this would be a 'casual' operation these facilities would not be required. Mr. and Mrs. Morehouse told the P & Z that they would not allow a lot of "hot -rodding" and other such nuisances there and they explained that this was a venture so that' Gary could earn .some side money while atterid- i ng school and to help him decide'• what he wanted to ago whenhhe gr ac,ua w eu open his own business or work for someone else. Mr. Morehouse was told that he would surrounding neighbors within 300" of the lands were vacant. He was given asked to return to the next Planning have to get the permission of alt their property whether or not a form to have filled out and and Zoning Meeting in March. The Board decided to recommend to the Council that Mr. Morehouse be granted a Special Use Permit for a period of 16 months provided he can obtain the agreement of the neighbors as required by Ordinance 56, Section 5.04. Mr. Morehouse and his parents have agreed to this and will return to the next meeting. Mr. Shearen thanked Mr. Morehouse and his parents for taking the time to appear before the P & Z prior to starting their business and said they were a fine example of good residents. Before the next items on the agends were taken, there was a discussion on stables in Lino Lakes and how they are regulated and what constitutes a stable in the City. At the present time there are no ordinances covering stables and no action is planned. FEBRUARY 19, 1975 -4- The P & Z was informed that there has been a change in the business at Ross' Corner Store, from a hardware store to a poof hall but that there had not been any complaints to the knowledge of the Clerk's. Again there is no ordinance covering this type of business at the present time and since the location Is within the commercial district, the P & Z decided to pass this information to the Council but to not recommend any action at this time because of the location and the bbsence of any complaints. The P & Z has also been informed that there is an auto body repair shop located at 874 Oak Lane, known as Smith Auto Body. The Clerk said that no-one has been in to the office inquiring about the proceedure that is to be conformed to. Mr. Sheeran made a motion to recommend to the Council that a letter be sent to that address informing the owner that he must appear before the P & Z and request a special use permit. Mr. Nadeau seconded the motion. Motion carried. Mr. Robert Emery was next on the agenda and he was present to bring his preliminary plans for a storage building and an antique car museum to be added to his present location at 6931 Lake Drive. He is In the process of finalizing the financing of this now and emphasized that the drawing he has forwarded to the P&Z is only preliminary and he has come this evening :a1y to get the reactions of the P&Z on this matter. if the plan he has presented tonight does not evolve he will then seek permission to add only one story now with the provision to add another story later. He is having a traffic study done to see if the area will support such a museum. The question arose if the proposed extension would still be within the commercial zone. Mr. Emery said that he owns 3f acres at 6931 Lake Drive and could forsee no probfems with this requirement as his present building is withing the 300' zone. He also said that they anticipate no problems for parking space. Mr. Emery said they would probably have to put some fill in the marsh area in back of his present building, but that he would only use clean fill and asked if the City has any regulations on this. He was advised to con- tact the Rice Creek Watershed District which has the jurisdiction in that area. Mr. Emery indicated that he would contact them immediately. N^xt on the agenda was the request from El Rehbeing & Sons for a Special Use Permit adjacent to their present warehouse area now on Lake Drive. The proposed use is for surface storage of miscellaneous items such as sand, stone, blocks. lumber, etc. They have complied with the regulations by ratting the consent of the neighbors within 300' of the property. Alt of The neighbors have agreed with only one requesting that a privacy fence Le erected around the entire area. FEBRUARY 19, 1975 -5 - Mr. Blackbird was asked how long the storage area would be needed and he stated, 'forever and eventually they would petition for a rezoning of the area but right now it had been decided that a special use permit would be In order.' Mr. L'Allier moved to recommend to the Council that the Special Use Permit be granted with the stipulation that if the area becomes unsightly it is to be removed. Mr. Keii1ng seconded the motion. Notion carried. The next item was a sign permit request from the N. W. Saddle Club, Since Mr. Amundsen was present, he was asked if this sign conformed to the Ordinance and he replied that it does and he had inspected it and turned it into the office with the request that an application be sent to the owners as it had never been applied for. The Board agreed with this action and Mr. Sheeran moved to recommend to the Council that this sign permit be granted. Mr. L;Aitier seconded the motion. Motion carried. A discussion of the building permit fees and the increase that is being requested by Mr. Amundsen was next of the agenda. Mr. Amundsen said that if the increase is passed then Lino Lakes wi11 be in line with most of the rest of the Twin City Area. He said the idea of the new fees was to stand- ardize the fees that are charged from one city to another so that builders would be able to give estimates more accurately. There were questions of the difference between the higher and lower priced homes. is there so much more work to inspect a $50,000.00 versus a $15,000.00 home? Mr. Amundsen said that while he follows the same pro- ceedure for both homes, he would naturally have to take a longer time in- specting a home of greater value becasue of the overall size of the home and the greater number of rooms, etc. that would be present. Mr. Amundsen was then questioned on the house Located on Sunset and Elm Streets. A permit had been issued for a garage at this location, but the garage has a rather large bow In it and is a safety hazard as it presently stnads. Also the garage has grown to include living quarters on a second floor. Mr. Hill also questioned the setback on this particular house. He said there does not appear to be more than a 15' setback there now and he feels that this presents an additional safety hazard for anyone that would be walking in that area. The cars when parked almost reach to the street and the safety of children playing in that area must be considered. Mr. Hill said that he believed the setback to be 75' from the center line. The setback regulations will be researched'for the next meeting and if he is found to be in violation the matter will be turned over to the attorney for action, Mr. Amundsen said he has discussed the matter of the bow with the owner and has instructed him to take care of it but to i to nfilt:r16, has been done. FEBRUARY 19, -6- Mr. Amundsen said that he will red tag the building but when he goes there to do so he will take a police officer with him as the owner has threatened him. Mr. Nill asked if the building permits could not be amended to include a statement that all setback regulations of the City will be conformed to and that no building permits will be issued without prior approval of the building inspector in order to avoice this type of a situation in the future. Mr. Nadeau moved to recommend to the Council to amend the office proceedure for ail building permits to be approved by the budding 'inspector before issuance and must conform to the setbbck ordinances of the City. Mr. Kelling seconded the motion. Motion passed. Mr. Kelling questioned the sign ordinace that says all signs must have a permit. He wondered why a business was not allowed one sign on the build- ing with a permit. After a discussion of the pros and cons of this, the Board decided that the only way signs could be controted was dro subject all of them to the permit regulations. Mr. Kelling moved to adjourn at 9:30 P.M. Secondsc by Mr. Nadeau. Aye.