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HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/17/1974 P&Z MinutesApril 17, 1974 The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order by Chairman Karth at 8:00 p.m. on April 17, 1974. Members present; Shearen, Hill, Kelling, Nadeau, L'Allier. Absent; Rothbauer. Mr. Marier was also present. Mr. Kelling moved to approve the minutes of the Special Meeting of March 13, 1974 as presented. Seconded by Mr. L'Allier. Notion carried. Mr. Shearen moved to approve the minutes of March 20, 1974 as presented. Seconded by Mr. Hill. Motion carried. Mr. Wayne Herr's proposed plat was discussed. Fir. Starr's and Mr. Gotwald's recommendations were read and discussed. Mr. Starr had recommended a possible site for a Park within the plat. Mr. Herr said he was aware of this requirement and was perfectly willing to give the land. If the Board so desired, he would also be willing to give the equivalent in cash. There was the general thought that with the Hall Park property so near, that the recommendation to accept cash would be more desirable. Mr. Herr said he was completely flexiable. Mr. Gotwald had marked the map for drainage along Rondeau Lake Road and had suggested catch basins. He had also marked the street for the change in grade on some portions. Mr. L'Allier questioned the use of metes and bounds for conveyance of title on these parcel of lands. Mr. Herr said the cost of survey to find the NorthEast corner is prohibitive. If he has to go to the expense of this survey, then he will redesign the layout making smaller lots. Mr. L'Allier felt that this should be surveyed properly in order to avoid future boundary problems. Mr. Nadeau felt that he would rather see smaller lots in the area and have the land surveyed properly. Mr. L'Allier said this decision should be left to the Engineer. He moved to recommend to the Council that the land be surveyed and platted. Seconded by Mr. Nadeau. There was discussion that this motion does not cover the situation in its entirety. Mr. L'Allier withdrew his motion. Mr. L'Allier moved to recommend to the Council that the plat be accepted with the following provisions; Mr. Herr conform to Planner's and Engineer's recommendations as to specifications for street grades, the Planning and Zoning would also recomm- end that the North East corner be found by a proper survey and the land be record- ed as a plat and the descriptions be by lot and block and not by metes and bounds. Seconded by Mr. Nadeau. :lotion carried with Mr. Shearen voting, No. He did not want to see the size of the lots reduced. (2) April 17, 1974 Air. Paulsrud of 718 Vicky Lane appeared before the Board asking for a Special Use permit to operate a sheet metal shop in his garage at the afore mentioned address for a period of one year. He is just starting his business and needs to get the business started. If things go, as he expects, within a year he will have to find commercial property. He assured the Board there would be no storage of materials outside the garage, no evening work, no traffic and no noise connected with the operation. Mr. Karth read a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Anthony Jones objecting to the estab- lishing of this small business. Mr. Paulsrud said that he would only be working in the garage about 2 hours a day. He repeated there is no noise connected with this work and that he only wants the special use permit for one year. Por. Kelling felt that if a resident wants to start a causal business in his garage and is willing to appear before the Board for permission and has plans to move it out when the volumn warrants it, these people should be encouraged. He moved to recommend to the Council approval of the Special Use Permit with the following provisions; No work before 8:00 a.m. or after 5:00 p.m. - rionday through Friday, except Holidays. Hours to be limited to 10 hours per week - no outside storage of raw materials - and the Special Use Permit for the operation of a sheet metal shoe at 718 Vicky Lane be limited to 1 year. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Motion carried. The Clerk was requested to send copies of this to Mr. & Mts. Jones. Mr. Blackbird, representing North-NorthEast Realty appeared before the Board for consideration on two possible plats; Pine Haven and Shamrock Estates. Mr. Starr's and Mr. Gotwald's recommendations were read and discussed. The need for the utility easements was noted. Since these two areas are near Park Propert- ies, the feeling of the Board was that here again, cash would be accepted, in lieu of land. It was also recommended that buildings only he put on every other lot until sewers are installed. Mr. Blackbird asked the width of the street to be surfaced. The Board wasn't sure of this and asked that he check with Mr. Gotwald. In the Shamrock area, the street dead ends. The Board felt this could create a problem with snow plowing. They asked that a turn around of some sort be put in that plat. There was some discussion on the legality of restricting the building if the perc test were favorable. Some of the Board members felt that this practice could result in a law suit. Mr. Marier suggested in the future, if developers are to bring in plats for discussion that these not be sent to the Planner and Engineer. When the preliminary is presented then send copies to them. He suggested that Mr. Black- bird consult Mr. Gotwald as to the storm sewers and a street on the south end of the plat. Basically, there were no objections from the Board, if the recommendations of the Planner and Engineer were followed. (3) April 17, 1974 Mr. Bill Meyer was here to discuss the connection of water and sewer to the town houses in Lakes Addition # 2. Mr. Gotwald recommendations were read. He suggested that a bond would need to be posted for the restoration of the street that would have to be excavated in the process of installing these lines. Mr. Meyer agreed to this. The access to these Properties was discussed, Mr. Marier felt that the access to this property should be a public street. Mr. Meyer said he didn't feel this was the intent at this time. He felt that a private driveway had been planned. He will contact Mr. Gotwald on this. The Variances for the transfer of the property at Lino Park was discussed. This is necessary to realign the North line of the Park. The legals are in order. Mr. L'Allier moved to recommend approval of these variances. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Motion carried. There was discussion on the sign permit applications. Some have been returned and paid, some have not. fir. L'Allier moved to recommend approval of the ones that have been returned. Seconded by Mr. Kelling. Motion carried. Mr. Amundsen asked the Board if the 1973 State Building Code had been adopted by the City. He was told that both the Building Code and the Plumbing Code had been adopted. Mr. Amundsen felt that if the Building Code had been adopted in its entirety, then the City is in violation of Chapter 3 dealing with permit fees. The fees set by the State are much higher than the ones now charged by the City. Mr. Marier will discuss this at the Council meeting on Mcnday, April 22, 1974. Mr. Amundsen will attend this meeting. Mr. Amundsen also brought up the subject of a minimum fee. He felt that on additions where the fee under the present system of computation is $5.00Jbr less, that he is losing money on the time involved inspecting these structures. He suggested a minimum fee of $10.00. There was general discussion on the need for this. rir. Amundsen was asked what sort of a report does he make in connection with the inspection of buildings. Mr. Marier said there is supposed to be a quarterly report from both the building inspector and the plumbing inspector. Mr. Amundsen explained that he has a file with a copy of the blueprint with his notes on this blueprint. He did not know of a report. Mr. Hill felt that some record should be kept of the inspections - when they were made and Mr. Amundsen's observations. I -Ie felt that the inspections of the footings was the most important one. Mr. Nadeau suggested some sort of a printed form that Mr. Amundsen could fill out as he inspects. This should be sent along with the permit. Mr. Kelling moved to adjourn at 10:20 p.m. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Ave.