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November 20, 1974
The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was called to'
order at 8:10 P.M. by Acting Chairman Shearan. Members present: Keliing,
Nadeau, Lombardi and Councilman Marier. Members absent: Hill, L'Allier,
and Karth.
Mr. Kelling moved to accept the minutes of October 16, 1974 es written.
Motion seconded by Mr. Nadeau. Motion carried.
Chairman Shearan read a letter received from Engineer Gotwald on the
Whispering Pines preliminary plat. The only change Mr. Gotwald recommend-
ed was to clearly show that Mr. Nelson would put In a pond specifically
for drainage purposes.
Mr. Nelson stated that he could forsee no problems with the recommendation
of Mr. Gotwald. Mr. Nelson also read a letter he had received from Mr.
Starr and his recommendations on his plat. Mr. Starr's recommendations
agreed with the Engineers report.
Mr. Nelson's biggest problem at this point is with financing and the Metro
Councii and their influence on FHA monies. He feels that if the
Council does not approve the entire plat that they will approve at least
9ve or six of the lots and that he can live with their dec£sion. He
is aware that FiA has split plats in recent years and feeis that they
m ght take th!s -4t'cn with his plat.
Mr. Nelson stated that he has had the entire plat perc tested and is
ready to put in .:.fat is recommended by the testc.
Mr. Lombardi cautioned Mr. Nelson and the P&Z that before the end of 1975
there would possibly be some vast changes in the structure of the Metro
Council and that they would likely adopt very rigid and for the most
case, more difficult s tan 'ends to adhere to.
Mr. Marler remined Mr. Nelson that he would have to getthe approval
the Rice Creek Watershed District and that he should make Is presentation
as soon as possible to the District.
Mr. Nelson siad that the plans would be presented shortly and this his
engineers are in the process of drawing up the plans that are required
by 'lice Creek now.
M7. yelling moved that the P&Z recommend to the Courci i ix accept the
'ei'minar' Plat of Whispering Pines, with the addiron of a drainage
nc ri. °.r. Nadeau seconded the motion. Motion carried.
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Mr. Nelson then questioned the Surety Bond •- he wanted to know if it had
to be given to the City when the final plat was accepted or could it be
done when the first building permits was issued? Mr. Marier advised Mr.
Nelson that it was at the Council's discretion.
There was a discussion on why some sort of standards could not be set on
the Sureety Bond issue and Mr. Marier said it is up to the Council and that
theyjudge each case on the needs of the developer. He reminded Mr. Nelson
and the Board that the purpose of the Surety Bond is to protect the City
as far as promised and proposed roads in the development are concerned.
Mr. Nelson was told that he would have to appear at a Council Meeting and
he could make arrangments with the Council for the Surety Bond at that
time.
Mr. Pie. i on RISC wan ted to know how the 10% cash donation would be handled.
Cons it have to he when the preliminary plat is approved or can ?': be
given when theefinal plat is approved or can it wait for the first
building ,?ermit to be issued?
Mr. 'd3r ev stated that there has been many preb1ems it 5t'e pa,t with
his oa- .a land donation for naris;: 1; 3 cap!`: .'on-.ti.�n is
are ► ql er .r '�r-: +:: already enough open s,;ace to c.,oeate t; a rumber o
o', eeoe is '<,i'aa • ve in a:he area or expected -%e b c`.tght into the area
as P r:n1 i t of '<;:e lie•^l development.. He ad is,::ri Ar. Nelsen, t' at as
In the Cr35€. of t.1".P `d.tr r y Bond, it has b2e, c'nd would be left to the
discretion cf the ';_m,..i.i 1.
The Clerk was a&,ed to have Mr. Nelson pua- on the agenda for the next
Council Meeting aneF., notify him as to the t;me he should he present.
Mr. Clark Mc0ermi w%y next on the agenda but was not present, his problem
was tabled until t 1 :,;'. r.
The next order c busieess was a Variance to Ordinance No. 21 A being
applied for by M,. and Mrs. Dean R. Aller fcr w:) 4uot drive -way to
his proposed bili=t.'i.,e site on Pine Street. The Ordinance now has a
';OC foot max4iur- t;r. Allen stated that Se has ha'i perk test done
and til>e t;a t:aqi Le {gutting is drive h10.t t :1 a:: the sod fart;. He brovi*
maps ulth !iii and showed the Board Jus '^ ;r w nt'; to Gaut :lis drive
i.; 3i1 .'hv it i_, re7essary. He intender to hilt lei a 'owe °cite far off
tiouie "ec ire the long drive ry hvmse. His job
Lz: ;-e..lre;:s are sucz that he needs the , e.::ce and golet t' at su:h a
.cold nice his family.
H! was questioned on his proopsed beginning date to build and stated
t:iat he would probably not be able to start until spring noa. Mr. I':adeau
sagg_sted that since time was not a factor, that it would be best to
contact Mr. Starr, the Planner, to look as his plans and make his recom-
mendations to the Pa and to the Connell. Mr. Alien was told how to
contact Mr. Starr and he agreed to do so as soon as possible.
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The Board cautioned Mr. Alien on the problems he could expect to encounter
living so far off of the road and Mr. Allen started that he was a farmer
for many years and was well aware of the problems that winter brings in
this area and that he is prepared to do most of his own snow removal.
Under Old Business Mr. Marler read a letter that he had received from Mr.
Starr on the board recommendation that he contact the Metro Council for
some clarification on their housing proposal ret,iew process. Mr. Starr
wrote a letter to Mr. John Doyle of the Metro Council stating the
position of the City of Lino Lakes and he a,ked If a representative of
the Metro Council could come to a Council Meeting in the near future
to present the views and positions of the Netro Council. Mr. Doyle
responded to Mr. Starr's letter stating that they would need a request
from the City Council and would be more than happy to aopear before
our City Council.
During the ensuing disnvssion about the tetters anct the Metro Ccunci 1,
Mr. Lo- bardi again ga+,,tlan d the PSZ that th Matro C1MA i t wa7 likely
to tsii:', a new from in th-1 coming year and tul`_?t the nel..4 standar ww.1 to3
t
Ve.,r , rigi i for ail ccetr4.r ed.
Mr. e e i:z !vde motion to recommend to the Council that they
invite s) me.n gar ,_ f the ie'rsing Review Sera or P.,tn
tot 3tt?j'-..4 .;i t, .G..F 't:.F}pz0r, t S! ..•:.$Ling at the err 7e. "' '� ..: a .. st �C The
',°. iadeau. Mo..i',.
LfT" $' ? �„ dry,^ �' i, w +
lJrdc:r Nr, . «Yaran raised thf:, the di r.,itation
of u.en span t.. � -rr,y tlt6 whether or .,, t t °; n : t 'i1d Ea a set of
stand is lair this. '..,ordered if Lino t_ai;f Nae: reecne3
the point where mho r r,•,i hl‘4e enough land sit a c " park purposes end
if the 10°r% cash 6c.:<a4trx1 he ac .epted and so.a. s � for the park fonds
in the fL ur!r t y e x :"f and.
Mr. Marie a. ';a ! the o:, rd that there c ul ! -c: a flamer in not settirg
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asimie park it :d, r4,inded them of th;: prrnSelts e:, i,erienced with
rha F'roko`; /Jandrir. c rt r and also of the prr,b411s with Country,. Laker.
He stated that it i r••s: be handled on a indi*;i 11 basis but that there
are some J i n •d in the ordia +;;i^ 3, ' building
,,.:E�tatr�'�.,n to till r,=aP ding
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