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APPROVED MINUTES
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL:
Chair Tralle called the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board meeting to order at 6:31
p.m. on September 9, 2020.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The Agenda was approved as presented.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Ms. Peacock made a MOTION to approve the August 12, 2020 Meeting Minutes.
Motion was supported by Mr. Reinert. Motion carried 6 - 0. Chair Tralle abstained.
V. OPEN MIKE
Chair Tralle declared Open Mike at 6:34 p.m.
There was no one present for Open Mike.
Mr. Evenson made a MOTION to close Open Mike at 6:34 p.m. Motion was supported
by Mr. Laden. Motion carried 6 - 0. Chair Tralle abstained.
DATE : September 9, 2020
TIME STARTED : 6:31 P.M.
TIME ENDED : 8:03 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Paul Tralle (Chair), Neil Evenson, Michael Root
Perry Laden, Sue Peacock, Jeff Reinert,
Nathan Vojtech
STAFF PRESENT : Michael Grochala, Katie Larsen, Diane Hankee,
Janele Waterman, Jessica Eller
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VI. ACTION ITEMS
A. Burque Property PUD Concept Plan
Ms. Larsen, City Planner, presented the staff report.
The applicant has submitted a land use application for PUD Concept Plan review.
The proposed development is a PUD residential community located south of
NorthPointe and east of CSAH 54 (20th Avenue) and west of I-35E. It contains 4
parcels totaling approximately 63 gross acres.
Staff requested feedback regarding the PUD Concept Plan for Burque Property.
Board Comments
Mr. Reinert reminded the applicant each type of zoning area has particular lot width
requirements. He acknowledged the applicant’s concept to transfer the senior
housing density, which would allow them to create several 40 ft. wide lots; however,
he further explained that was not the original intent when NorthPointe was
developed. Moreover, Mr. Reinert explained the applicant will run into problems
with changing the timeline for the development of the acreage as specified in the
2040 Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Laden agreed with staff’s recommendation to change the half cul de sac to a full
cul de sac. He preferred the cul de sac to the south be altered to create a loop instead
of a cul de sac. He echoed Mr. Reinert’s sentiment of not appreciating the
applicant’s concept of removing density from the high density housing complex in
order to create a larger quantity of smaller lots. He said, if the board is going to
permit small lots, the applicant will need to provide a public benefit. Mr. Laden
asked Ms. Larsen if the high density building has an age restriction of 55+ years of
age.
Ms. Larsen stated the high density housing complex has an age limit restriction of 55
+ years of age. She clarified the age limit restriction was a part of the resolution
approving the NorthPointe development.
Mr. Laden remarked the City does not have enough property for young adults and
therefore, to have such age restricted housing within the City is not beneficial.
Ms. Peacock agreed with Mr. Laden’s comment regarding age restricted housing.
She disapproved of the applicant’s concept plan to reduce the lot widths.
Mr. Evenson commented he did not believe the small groups of lots to the south
would be functional, especially if a full cul de sac was developed.
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Mr. Root explained he did not disagree with having a higher density, but he did not
approve of the applicant’s concept plan. Furthermore, he clarified, if the applicant
wants a PUD and the development to be zoned for higher density, the applicant must
provide a public benefit. He said, for any future development, Cypress Street ought
to be connected to the development since the street was stubbed and planned
accordingly. He suggested if the density is increased, the addition of a small
neighborhood park should be considered as well. Furthermore, Mr. Root wondered
if the density is increased, how would that impact the figures which were originally
approved for the NorthPointe development and Met Council.
Mr. Vojtech agreed with Mr. Root’s comments. He did not approve of the proposed
concept. He commented on the half cul de sac explaining he did not understand how
the half cul de sac could even function properly with the number of lots the applicant
is proposing to develop. He asked Ms. Larsen if the applicant provided price points
for the homes.
Ms. Larsen stated that particular information was not provided.
Chair Tralle questioned if the developer of the proposed project is the same
developer who developed NorthPointe.
Ms. Larsen explained it is not the same developer. The applicant would be
purchasing Outlot A from BL Holdings.
Chair Tralle said he did not understand how NorthPointe could sell off Outlot A
because, in the original agreement, they agreed to develop the outlot.
Ms. Larsen clarified, in order for NorthPointe to be able to sell Outlot A,
amendments would need to be made to the Comprehensive Plan and NorthPointe
plan. Therefore, if NorthPointe does not sell the outlot, they would be obligated to
develop it as it was originally approved.
Mr. Grochala, Community Development Director, noted if Outlot A is developed, it
is required to be developed at a specific density irrespective of the developer.
Moreover, there is a covenant on the property which restricts the housing to
individuals 55 years of age or older.
Applicant’s Comments
Chair Tralle asked the applicant, Melvin Brown-Moore from Builders Lot Group,
LLC., to respond to the board’s comments.
Mr. Brown-Moore said he did not agree with all of the board member’s comments.
He questioned if the connection from Birch Street to NorthPointe was considered
during the development stage of NorthPointe since it runs through wetlands and a
floodplain.
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Ms. Larsen stated the City stubbed the roads in the best location possible. She
specified, due to the location of the connection, wetland mitigation or floodplain
mitigation would be required.
Mr. Brown-Moore inquired, since they were not planning on connecting their
development to Birch Street, why they would be required to develop the street.
Diane Hankee, City Engineer, replied the developer would be required to develop
the street for the benefit of the public. She further explained the City is required to
provide roadways which link neighborhoods and this street has been identified in the
Comprehensive Plan as a critical link.
Ms. Larsen suggested there may be an additional opportunity for the developer to
purchase some acreage from the owner at 6620 20th Ave and develop more housing
units along the road between Cypress Street and NorthPointe.
Mr. Brown-Moore asked Eric Luth, the Senior Project Manager at Sambatek, Inc., to
address the half cul de sac and the connection between Cypress Street and
NorthPointe.
Mr. Luth explained his team performed a delineation in the field and determined at
least two acres of land south of Cypress Street is wetland. He said since drainage
will be cut off, two acres of impact would add approximately $300,000 to the
project. He specified the increase in cost would then increase the price points of the
homes in the development and would be in excess of the nearby comparables. He
informed the board his team reviewed utilizing Cypress Street versus Chestnut Street
and they determined all of the development on the south could be served through
Chestnut Street.
Mr. Reinert reminded the applicants their concept was reviewed, comments were
made, and the details of the concept could be reviewed with City staff at a different
time.
Mr. Luth commented it was not their intention to be deceptive when shifting density
between parcels. They recalled from a previous discussion with City staff, 88 units
exceeded the requirement for the senior housing building and therefore, they
believed they were resolving the issue by spreading out the density.
Ms. Larsen said City staff held a few development meetings with the applicant, but
she did not recall informing the applicant 88 units were excessive. She concluded,
since the board did not express concern with the number of units, the original
amount of units for the NorthPointe development would likely be accepted.
Mr. Brown-Moore clarified he and his team were trying to solve a few problems
which pre-exist the development and they wanted direction from the board so they
could adjust their plan accordingly. He specified one of the issues they are trying to
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navigate is the wetland and floodplain at 6620 20th Ave which would be integrated
into the development. He questioned how to address the wetland issue in order to
connect Birch Street to the proposed development. He inferred, if they would not be
able to develop the small lots off of 20th Ave, then they would not propose a
connection to Cypress Street because they would not receive any benefit in doing so.
Ms. Larsen explained the connection to Cypress Street is the public value component
of the project and it would be required of the developer to establish the connection.
Chair Tralle recommended the applicants review the board’s comments and return
with a revised plan. He reminded them the board would like to see a design with
larger lot widths and a proposed public value component in order to receive a PUD.
Mr. Brown-Moore thanked the board for their comments and said he and his team
would adjust their plan.
B. 7831 Lake Drive Variance
Ms. Larsen, City Planner, presented the staff report.
The property owner of 7831 Lake Drive, Kathy Thayer, submitted a Land Use
Application for a variance for roofing materials. She is requesting a metal roof with
exposed fasteners be allowed. City ordinance allows for metal roofs with standing
seam (i.e. hidden fasteners).
Staff recommended denial of the variance to allow for a metal roof with exposed
fasteners at 7831 Lake Drive.
Board Comments
Ms. Peacock stated if the applicant did not research what the City requirements are
for a metal roof, then a variance should not be granted. She explained if a variance
is allowed, then likely other residents in the City will think they can utilize metal
roofing with exposed fasteners. She commented rules and regulations are put in
place for a reason and the residents of the City should adhere to them.
Mr. Laden remarked the fasteners are not easily noticeable and in fact, upon
reviewing a different property with exposed fasteners, binoculars were needed in
order to see the fasteners. He reminded the board, in that particular instance, the
decision was made to allow the fasteners if they were color matched to the roof. He
explained, in this circumstance, he was in favor of the variance and he suggested the
ordinance, which does not permit exposed fasteners, ought to be reviewed. He
stated the metal roofing material is a viable product and it has a longer life span than
shingles. He concluded the City has many neighborhoods with restrictive covenants
which would prohibit the use of this material, but in the remaining areas of the City
without such restrictions, this material should be allowed.
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Mr. Evenson agreed with Mr. Laden stating the exposed fasteners are color matched,
not easily visible and overall, the product is of good quality. He specified there are a
number of buildings on Lake Drive with exposed fastener roofing. He explained,
since the big box stores are making this product more readily available to customers
and likely requests for variances will continue, consideration should be given to
changing the ordinance.
Mr. Root commented he was not concerned with the aesthetics of exposed fasteners.
His apprehension was regarding the fact none of the criteria for the variance had
been met. He suggested approving the variance with the stipulation the ordinance be
revised to allow for color-matched fasteners.
Mr. Reinert said there is good argument for the product in regards to its durability.
However, he explained the requirements for granting a variance have not been met
in this instance and because of this, he would have to vote no to deny approval of the
variance. He recommended postponing a decision on the variance and having a
special session to discuss the ordinance. He clarified if the ordinance is changed,
then the board can allow Ms. Thayer’s roofing material and a variance would not be
needed.
Mr. Vojtech stated the cost difference between exposed fasteners and non-exposed
fasteners is minimal, close to 20 percent. He expressed concern with not being
consistent by allowing a few individuals to install metal roofing while not permitting
others. He suggested the board review the ordinance instead of granting the
variance.
Mr. Evenson was also concerned about being inconsistent if the variance is allowed
for others, but not for the applicant. He concurred it would be best to proceed and
change the ordinance, thereby eliminating the need of a variance.
Chair Tralle appreciated Mr. Laden’s comment to consider changing the ordinance.
He recommended changing the ordinance and stipulating the fasteners be color
coordinated. He commented, considering the financial impact COVID-19 has had
on many families, 20 percent can be costly. Moreover, he remarked he struggled to
expect Ms. Thayer to not be able to utilize the roofing materials she spent $2,000 on.
He concluded he would vote to recommend approval of the variance.
Ms. Larsen explained she was hoping the board would vote on the variance so it
could then be discussed at the City Council meeting on Monday night. Then, if the
variance is approved by the City Council, Ms. Thayer would be able to replace her
roof before winter arrives. Ms. Larsen proposed, after City Council’s decision has
been made regarding the variance, the Planning and Zoning Board could then begin
amending the ordinance.
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Chair Tralle agreed with Ms. Larsen. He took a vote to determine who would be in
favor of changing the ordinance to expose fasteners. The vote was 6 to 1 in favor to
recommend changing the ordinance.
Applicant’s Comments
Chair Tralle asked Ms. Thayer to share with the board why she obtained the roofing
materials prior to purchasing the building permit.
Ms. Thayer said she purchased the materials prior to purchasing the building permit
because she did not want the permit to expire before she was able to install the
roofing material. She explained the roofing materials were listed as residential
material and therefore, she did not believe it was going to be an issue. She
acknowledged she should have been more aware of the rules regarding exposed
fasteners prior to purchasing the roofing material. However, she clarified the
fasteners match the roofing as well as the trim on her house and garages. She hoped
the board would recommend approval of the variance since she spent a lot of money
on the roofing materials and on the application for a variance.
Mr. Laden made a MOTION to recommend approval of the variance to allow for a
metal roof with exposed fasteners on the single family dwelling and two (2)
detached garages at 7831 Lake Drive. Motion was supported by Mr. Evenson.
Motion carried 4 - 3.
The Board also directed staff to draft a zoning ordinance text amendment for their
consideration.
VII. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Project Updates
Staff provided verbal updates to the Board on current City projects.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Evenson made a MOTION to adjourn the meeting at 8:03 p.m. Motion was
supported by Ms. Peacock. Motion carried 6 - 0. Chair Tralle abstained.
Respectfully submitted,
Janele Waterman, Administrative Assistant