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Wednesday, December 2 , 2020
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AGENDA
Park Board Members: Pat Huelman (Chair) , Richard Jensen,
John Nordlund, Clark Gooder, Abby Haworth, William Kusterman
Public Services Director. Rick DeGardner
1 . Call to Order and Roll Call
2 . Pledge of Allegiance
3 . Setting Agenda
4 . Approval of Minutes from October 2 , 2020
5 . Open Mike
6 . Determine 2021 Recommendations to City Council
7 . New Business
8 . Old Business
9 . Next Scheduled Park Board Meeting — Wednesday , January 6 , 2021
10 . Adjourn
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PARK BOARD MINUTES (VIRTUAL MEETING)
DATE : October 7, 2020
TIME STARTED . 6 * 30 P.M.
TIME ENDED . 7 : 50 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Patrick Huelman (Chair), John Nordlund,
Clark Gooder, Abby Haworth, Richard Jensen ,
William Kusterman
MEMBERS ABSENT : Andrew Levi
STAFF PRESENT . Rick DeGardner
1 . CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL .
Chair Huelman called the Lino Lakes Park Board meeting to order at 6 : 30 p . m. on
October 7 , 2020 .
A. Welcome Mr. William Kusterman
Rick DeGardner, Director of Public Services , welcomed William Kusterman to the
Lino Lakes Park Board.. At the September 28t' City Council meeting, the City
Council appointed Mr. Kusterman to the Park Board with his term expiring December
31 st of 2022. Mr. Kusterman was previously a member of the Park Board from 2000 -
2013 and he served on the City Council from 2014-2017 .
Mr . Kusterman thanked the Park Board for the warm welcome and he expressed his
excitement to rejoin the board.
Chair Huelman said Mr. Kusterman ' s previous board experience would be an asset to
the Park Board.
2 . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3 . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The Agenda was approved as presented.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES .
Mr. Gooder made a MOTION to approve the August 5 , 2020 Meeting Minutes . Motion
was supported by Mr. Jensen. Motion carried 5 - 0 . Mr. Kusterman abstained .
5. OPEN MIKE
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There was no one present for Open Mike . Open Mike was closed.
6. REVIEW PARK AND TRAIL FUND
Rick DeGardner, Director of Public Services, reviewed the Park and Trail Fund. In 2018 ,
the City Council began to allocate general fund dollars for park and trail development
which resulted in a cash influx of $ 500, 000 . In 2019 and 2020, the City Council
allocated $ 90 , 000 to the Park and Trail Fund. For the 2021 budget, there currently are
not any dollars allocated for the Park and Trail Fund. He summarized recently completed
park improvements which included a full- size tennis court and paved trails at Arena
Acres Park and new playground equipment at Sunrise Park.- The Apollo Drive Trail was
initially considered, but the Park Board decided that it did not make sense to continue .
Mr. DeGardner explained there was a $ 14, 000 cost associated with the preparation of
plans and specifications for the Apollo Drive Trail . Mr. DeGardner informed the board
the 12'�` Avenue Trail project has been completed and the project' s cost was estimated to
be $25 , 000 under budget. Mr. DeGardner explained with the surplus of funds from the
completion of the 12t' Avenue Trail project, the undesignated fund balance is
approximately $250 , 000 . He explained, since the City Council is currently reviewing the
2021 budget, he suggested the Park Board review the Park and Trail Fund and determine
if there are any specific projects the Park Board would like the City Council to consider.
Chair Huelman stated constructing a park next to the new water tower in Lino Lakes
would make a lot of sense since there is a local need in that part of the community. He
explained there is a need within the parks system for hard courts and there is a great
opportunity to construct a hard court on that piece of ground. He concluded starting the
park could be integrated into the larger recreational complex design.
Mr. Gooder agreed.
Mr. DeGardner said the City Council is interested in developing six pickle balls courts ,
two tennis courts, and a full-size basketball court south of the fire station. If the City
decided to develop the property to the south of the park, the park would fit well within
that area. He explained there are currently designated funds for the development of the
PIPrecreation complex . Furthermore, there is a potential opportunity to utilize some of the
dedicated park dollars from the recently approved Nadeau Acres to construct the park.
This possible opportunity will be discussed further with the City Council at the next
budget meeting.
Mr. Gooder suggested all members review the packets from a couple of months ago and
try to prioritize the various park and trail opportunities so that the board can begin
utilizing the funds .
Chair Huelman agreed. He suggested each member forward to Rick or himself a list of
park and trail recommendations so the board can continue the conversation and set a
criteria for establishing priorities . He reminded the board designated funds are dollars
received from specific projects that are intended to be spent within those
communities/neighborhoods . In some cases, the funds may be utilized near the
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neighborhood or directly within the neighborhood. He clarified these are an alternative
set of available funds, however, they are more restricted. Undesignated funds do not
have restrictions on how the funds are to be spent.
Mr. DeGardner further explained this is the park and trail improvement fund and its sole
revenue source is general fund dollars via City Council authorization. The other fund is
the dedicated parks fund and these are dollars the city receives from residential ,
commercial , and industrial development. At this time, there is not an undesignated fund
balance for the board to utilize for any discretionary projects .
Chair Huelman wondered if the reason there are no dollars allocated for the 2021 budget
was because of COVID - 19 and tax revenues .
Mr. DeGardner stated there have been a few budget work sessions and as of right now,
October 7th, there is not any allocation in the 2021 budget for contributions to the Park
and Trail Fund.
Mr . Kusterman shared, he reviewed the initial 2021 budget and he said $ 70 , 000 was
originally dedicated to the park and trail improvement fund . He asked why were the
funds removed and who made the decision to eliminate the funds .
Mr. DeGardner clarified the $ 70 , 000 was originally included at the first budget meeting,
however, the City Council identifyied potential funding cuts and the Park andTtrail
Improvement Fund was chosen .
Mr. Kusterman ekplamed when he was on the City Council , he and his fellow members
worked hard to ensure the parks received funding. He shared, prior to 2017 , the
Dedicated Parks Fund had not received General Fund dollars for approximately 16 years .
He expressed concern with not receiving any 2021 funds for the Park and Trail
Improvement Fund.
Mr. Gooder agreed with Mr. Kusterman . He explained Lino Lakes residents are outside
biking, hiking, jogging, and walking now more than ever before due to COVID - 19 and
therefore it is important for the Park Board to have a solid plan for the improvements of
the City ' s parks and trails . He recommended the board prioritize the park and trail
projects and ask City Council for the funds to complete the projects . He stated the Park
Board ' s job is to fight for the residents of Lino Lakes and for the funding of the City ' s
parks and trails .
Mr . DeGardner asked the Park Board to provide a list of recommendations by next month
so he could go to the City Council in December for consideration and then staff would
have the winder months to prepare plans and specs and go out for bid.
Chair Huelman recommended the board reconvene next month and list their priorities for
park and trail projects . He commented the $ 90 , 000 or $ 100, 000 annual allocation is a
small investment towards the parks system. He offered to communicate with the City
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Council members and encourage them to continue finding the parks and trails with the
undesignated dollars .
7 . PARK UPDATES
A. Lino Park Playground/Park Shelter Concept Plans
Rick DeGardner, Director of Public Services , presented the staff report. Mr.
DeGardner stated Lino Park is one of the three most utilized parks within Lino Lakes .
The current playground equipment was installed in 1998 and the open air shelter was
built in 1986 . City staff asked WSB to create a few concept plans to replace the
existing playground equipment and shelter. City staff would like to improve the
separation between the parking lot and active park area, but they believe the
playground equipment should remain within the same general area because it sense
functionally and economically . Mr. DeGardner explained, 15 years ago , the City
conducted a remaster planning process of Lino Park and recommended the
playground structure be relocated within .the trail loop. He continued, since then, the
open space area has been utilized more often for organized activities as well as for
Blue Heron Days . Because of the more frequent use of the open area than in years
past, City staff did not recommend relocating the playground equipment within the
trail loop . The potential funding sources for Lino Park are the Park and Trail Fund
and the Dedicated Parks Fund. Mr. DeGardner presented the "three park concepts to
the board. He stated City staff prefers Concept # 1 . Concept # 1 would relocate the
park shelter between the play area and the open space area. The downside to this
concept is the shelter would be removed from its original location. However, this
relocation would allow the electrical pedestals to remain within its existing location
and provide electrical power to the shelter. Another benefit to Concept # 1 is the
existing sidewalk on the other side of the fence would remain while, on the opposite
side of the fence, a 5 ft. buffer with landscaping would be constructed which would
provide a larger buffer between the parking lot and the play area. He continued,
Concept #2 would keep the playground equipment and shelter in the same location
and would provide a buffer between the parking lot and play area. The benefit to
Concept #2 is it is less costly than Concept # 1 . Concept #3 would construct a
concrete plaza area with tables and umbrellas between the play area and open space
area. This concept would allow parents to observe their children playing either on the
playground equipment or in the open space area. There would be a shelter area
located in the southern portion of the park for larger groups . However, this concept
would require one of the electrical pedestals to be relocated. Mr. DeGardner asked
for the Park Board ' s feedback regarding the three concept plans .
Ms . Haworth liked Concept # 1 because of the buffer between the play area and the
parking lot, the location of the shelter, the shade provided by the shelter, and the
ability for parents to observe their kids playing on either the playground equipment or
within the open space area without having to relocate .
Mr. Jensen concurred.
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Mr. Kusterman asked if there was any room to install a pickle ball court at Lino Park.
Mr. DeGardner said there may be room to install a pickle ball court. However, he
explained, he viewed courts as serving the Lino Lakes community regionally more so
than residentially. There are eight tennis courts at Centennial Middle School for
residents to utilize for pickle ball and tennis . Mr. DeGardner suggested the Park
Board determine whether or not hard court surfaces should be integrated in the Lino
Lakes park system and if so , begin identifying which parks would receive hard courts .
Mr. Kusterman explained part of the reason for suggesting the;implementation of
hard court surfaces is due in part to the closure of the YMCA. With the YMCA ' s
closure, the elder generation has been out of play in regards to pickle ball . He
acknowledged the tennis courts at Centennial Middle School, but questioned if the
courts can be repurposed for pickle ball .
Chair Huelman agreed with Mr. DeGardner and restated some parks will remain
neighborhood parks . However, he said Lino Park is currently a destination' type park
with its large parking lot, central location, and frequent use by the public .
Mr. Jensen commented the shelter should not be moved as it is in a perfectly good
area where parents have good sightlines of their kids .
Mr. Nordlund preferred Concept # 1 . He stated the location of the park shelter would
work well there for Blue Heron Days .
Mr. Gooder liked the placement of the shelter on Concept # l . He suggested planting
trees, bushes , or flowers next to the chain4ink fence, as depicted in the other
concepts, to provide more shade , but also to improve the curb appeal . He wondered if
there would be an opportunity to get the community involved in the planting of
flowers, etc. to improve the aesthetics of the park.
Mr. DeGardner reviewed the budget and estimated the total project cost would be
` approximately $300 , 000 . The Park and Trail Fund currently has an undesignated
fund balance of roughly $255 , 000 .
Mr . Kusterman stated the importance of the City Council continuing annual funding .
Mr. Gooder :asked what the board ' s project priorities are for 2021 and the years
following. , He suggested the board establish their priorities so that they can approach
City Council with a plan and be better equipped to request more funds . He concluded
the board needs funds because many families move to Lino Lakes for its expansive
parks and trails . Furthermore, it is the duty of the Park Board to represent the
community and ensure the park system is well maintained.
Chair Huelman restated the importance of taking the next board meeting to establish
project priorities and where Lino Park falls within the list, and if the board will ask
City Council for additional funds to complete the Lino Park updates .
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B . Birch Park — Girl Scouts Kindness Mail Box
Rick DeGardner, Director of Public Services , presented the staff report. The Girl
Scout Troop 56277, a group of 6�' graders from Centennial Middle School, recently
contacted city staff to request constructing and installing a Kindness Mail Box at
Birch Park. This project was part of their Bronze Award project. A Kindness
Mailbox is similar to the Little Free Library concept that you have seen over the last
couple of years where people can take or add things to brighten someone ' s day .
Items such as cards , sayings, painted rocks, etc . can be found in those mailboxes . It is
about a 24" W x 19" H x 13 " D and is made from solid pine and aspen. The roof and
shingles are pretty durable . They are made of plywood. The mailbox will be
mounted to a 4x4 stained, treated post. One of the troop members will be assigned to
monitor the mailbox monthly to fill it up with kindness knick-knacks and repairs , if
needed . It will be located near the open air shelter at Birch Park.
Mr. Jensen stated the Kindness Mailbox is-a wonderful idea, but he expressed
concern of possible vandalism .
Mr. Gooder said, by allowing this project, the Park Board is welcoming the Girls
Scouts to the City and encouraging them on their various projects . He stated the
Kindness Mailbox may also benefit the community . He further explained, by
allowing this project, it enhances the board ' s connection with the community, it lets
them know the parks are theirs , and they can approach the board anytime if they have
alternative ideas to enhance the parks ' experience .
8. NEW BUSINESS
There were no comments made regarding new business .
9. OLD BUSINESS
There were no comments made regarding old business .
10. NEXT SCHEDULED PARK BOARD MEETING
Wednesday, November 4 , 2020
11 . ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Gooder made a MOTION to adjourn to adjourn the meeting at 7 : 50 p .m. Motion was
supported by Mr. Nordlund. Motion carried 6 - 0 .
Respectfully submitted,
Janele Waterman, Community Development Administrative Assistant
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DATE . December 2, 2020
TO : Park Board Members
FROM : Rick DeGardner, Public Services Director
RE : Determine 2021 Recommendations to City Council
Each year the Park Board typically recommends parks and trails projects to the City Council for
consideration . Funding is usually provided through Dedicated Parks Funds and the Park and Trail
Improvement Fund ( established by the City Council in 2018 ) .
The Park Board has spent considerable time discussing potential project recommendations . It was
suggested during the October, 2020 Park Board meeting that all members review the previous
Park Board meeting packets and attempt to prioritize the various parks and trails opportunities .
The Park Board agreed to continue the conversation and forward a list of projects for City Council
consideration .
The following attachments are provided to aid the discussion process :
1 . Park and Trail Improvement Fund Summary ( Dated 11/25/2020 )
2 . Dedicated Parks Fund detail ( Dated 11/25/2020 )
3 . Comprehensive Parks and Trails System Plan Memorandum ( Dated May 11, 2018 )
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Memorandum
To ; Mayor and. City Council
From: Rick DeGardner, Public Services Director
Sarah Cotton, Finance Director
.Date: May 11 , 2018
Re: Comprehensive Parks and Trails System Plan
Attached is the Comprehensive Parks and Trails System Plan that was referred to at Monday' s
City Council work session during the Park Board Recommendation of 2018 Parks and Trails
Capital Projects agenda item.
During .the November 6, 2017 work session, Council directed staff to prepare a comprehensive
park and trail repair or replacement plan for council consideration. The attached plan was
presented to the City Council during the December 4, 2017 City Council work session. The
relevant minutes are attached.
Sheet 1 - Existing Park Assets Worksheet - Identifies all existing assets within each individual
park. The worksheet provides information for each individual asset including the year installed,
useful .life, estimated replacement cost, and projected year of replacement.
Approximately $ 1 , 136 , 000 of existing assets are identified as either past due or scheduled for
replacement through 2020 . This results in a somewhat unrealistic investment in the short term.
Therefore, the summary sheet provides options regarding the annual investment required to fully
fund the existing parks assets by the years 2025, 2030, 2035 , 2040, and 2045 .
If the City Council determined that ten years was the goal to get .caught up with replacing
existing assets , the estimated annual investment needed to keep pace with the replacement
schedule is $244, 500 .
Sheet 2 — New Assets of Existing Parks Worksheet - Identifies the estimated costs to complete
the neighborhood parks system per the master plan of each park. The summary sheet provides
the annual investment required to fully fund the new assets of existing parks by the years 2025 ,
203% 2035 ) 2040, and 2045 .
Sheet 3 — Existing Parks - Anticipating Dedicated Parks Funding; For Development - Identifies
the parks likely developed thru park dedication. fees when undeveloped land within the park
service area is developed.
Sheet 4 — Trail Projects Needing Funding Worksheet - Identifies higher priority trails, both
existing and new. The summary sheet provides the annual investment required to fully fund these
trail segments by the years 2025 , 2030, 2035 , 2040, and. 2045 .
All existing trail segments were ratedJinspected in the Fall of 2017 . The next step is to work
with WSB Engineering to develop a maintenance/replacement strategy similar to. the Pavement
Management System for streets .
Sheet 5 — Park and Trail Asset Worksheet Summary - In addition to summarizing the
information detailed :above, several computations related to the annual costs needed to begin
funding the Recreation Complex are provided.
The summary sheet outlines the various parks and trails categories ala-carte style so the City
Council can consider prioritizing various funding levels for each specific asset category. For
example, the City Council may choose an aggressive approach to funding existing park assets
and identified trail projects (2025 or 2030) , and a more long-term approach to funding new assets
within existing parks (2040 or 2045 ) . There are several combinations to consider. The more
aggressive the City Council elects to complete each asset category, the higher annual investment
needed.
Attachments
• Parks and Trails Comprehensive Plan — (Distributed at .December 4 , 2017 City Council
work session)
® December 4, 2017 City Council work session minutes related to Parks and Trails
Comprehensive Plan discussion
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315 public resources" as it shows up in the policy be addressed, so going forward there can be
316 a better understanding.
317
318 Council Member Rafferty suggested getting back to the basics of the concerns..
319 - Newsletter concerns ;
320 - Making an opinion clear as what it is;
321 - Use of social media (does it come across positive for the entire council) opinion
322 based things clear again.
323
324 Mayor Reinert pledged to do a better job .
325
326 Administrator Karlson, given what he' s heard, said he recommends looking at examples
327 and using League of Minnesota Cities resources to bring back some update
328 recommendations in January.
329
330 12 . Legal Spending Limits for City Staff — Administrator K.arlson said the question did
331 come up the same night as the previous question. He mentioned the budget for these
332 services . He feels that trust is needed as staff has to make a decision about when a legal
333 opinion is needed. He is conservative and he feels trust is merited.
334
335 13. Replacement of Council iPads/Tablets — Mayor Reinert suggested waiting until
336 January for the discussion, after the new council member .is on board .
337
338 14. Election Polling Places — City Clerk Bartell reported that the city must designate
339 polling places for the coming year prior to the end of this year. A resolution that
340 maintains the current locations will be on council agenda. She reviewed additional
341 information in the staff report that was intended to update the council on the possibility .of
342 future precinct/polling place changes .
343
344 1S . 2018 Budget - Finance Director Cotton recalled previous discussions of the 2018
345 budget that have brought a proposed budget forward to this point. She also mentioned
346 consideration of the 2017 budget and a proposed surplus (mostly revenue based) . She
347 noted the possibility of designating some of that surplus to an air conditioning unit for the
348 city hall complex. She noted that the Public Services Director, Mr . DeGardner, would be
349 speaking on parks .
350
351 Mayor Reinert noted the recent loss of the tennis courts in one area of the city and the
352 lack of replacement of those facilities . His opinion is that some surplus funding could be
353 allocated for some replacement use in that area, perhaps decided by the residents . Those
354 residents feel that they ' ve lost something and he' d like to advocate for something there.
355
'356 Council Member Rafferty said he spoke with some people who felt the courts could have
357 been redone. It was a safety situation that required the removal and he understands that.
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359 Director DeGardner remarked that ultimately it ' s up to the council on how funds are
360 earmarked. ..
361
362 Director DeGardner then reviewed his report, including an inventory of park facilities
363 with assumptions on the life of equipment at those locations and estimated replacement
364 costs. This is really a first look at the system and what could be done .
365
366 Council Member Manthey said he appreciates having all the information for use as the
367 council considers questions about these facilities .
368
369 Director DeGardner then reviewed the sheet indicating cost estimates based on the future
370 master plan.
371
372 Director DeGardner then reviewed the third list of possible future park developments that
373 are not a part of the master plan.
374
375 Director DeGardner then reviewed a trail projects sheet. They are components that are
376 being followed with estimated costs .
377
378 The next sheet reviewed is seen as a tool to put all the information into perspective to
379 give the council an idea of an annual investment requirement, based on a timeline out to
380 2045 . It does give a sense of the magnitude of the work.
381
382 Mr. DeGardner ' s final information presented was on the $30, 000 that has traditionally
383 been budgeted for trails .
384
385 Mayor Reinert suggested that he was looking for something with a little more consistency
386 in cost. He doesn' t like the heavy front end and lighter back end. Ives . Cotton said it' s
387 heavy on the front end due to the assumptions on life.
388
389 Mayor Reinert suggested that it looks as if the city could dedicate $ 300, 000 for next year.
390 He would support the recommendation.
391
392 Council Member Rafferty asked about a culvert at Clearwater Creek; is that because the
393 trail is always underwater? Mr. DeGardner concurred. He concurs with the $300 ,000
394 range ip get things going and he wonders about adding more even if it' s borrowed. He
395 touched on the recreation complex land. Mr. DeGardner suggested that this time of a
396 budget surplus is something that may not occur again. Council Member Rafferty asked
397 about putting some surplus funds into roads as well. Director Cotton yarned that the
3.98 surplus may still be impacted by future needs . Council Member Rafferty asked if
399 $50, 000 to roads is unrealistic. Director Grochala said there will be a surplus update in
400 January ,
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402 Council Member Manthey said he' d like to wait and see with more data. But he ' d love
403 to seethe tangible impact on the community that parks and trails can bring. It' s good to
404 not let assets fall apart.
405
406 Mayor Reinert noted the levy of 42 . 3 . The 42 . 756 that went out in the 'Truth in Taxation
407 statements is 'a change based on a change in valuation.
408
409 Council Member Kusterman suggested. using more funds to a need that' s there at a time
410 when funds are available. Mayor Reinert noted that the city was forced into a position of
411 austerity by the loss of value during a difficult period. Council Member Kusterman
412 suggested dedicating $ 500,0.00 . :Council Member Manthey clarified that if the fluids are
413 dedicated, what specifically would they be spent on. Mayor Reinert said the funding
414 keeps up with the schedule presented; he wouldn't support going higher than presented.
415 There is $400 , 000 put aside if more is needed and could be used with .a future decision.
416 The funding would be used for maintenance of current facilities . Council Member
417 Marnthey said he' d like to see trail projects done . Mayor Reinert asked that the council
41.8 look at the situation in January, with up to date surplus information, and with a dedication
419 to trails
420
421 Council Member Rafferty asked that the council make a direction this evening. Mayor
422 Reinert said how about the $300 ,000 discussed and $ 100,000 for trails. Council Member
423 Rafferty said he' s more in line with the $ 500 , 000 mentioned; it could be a rare
424 opportunity . Director Grochala warned the council again about the expenses that exist in
425 the area of building permit revenues ; many inspections related to the revenue remain
426 outstanding.
427
428 Council Member Maher said she ' d love to put as much as possible into the goals but she
429 understands the need for caution. She' d like to do $500 ,000 but sees the $400 ,000 may
430 be more appropriate at this time.
431
432 The council concurred that the figure is $400, 000 but that doesn' t include the $ 30 , 000
433 that is already budgeted for trails . Ms. Cotton explained that the funds will be held in a
434 management fund and the Park Board will make recommendations that come back to the
435 council .
436
437 Council Member .Kusterman said he feels $ 500,000 is reasonable with a unique funding
438 opportunity such as this.
439
4.40 Council Member Rafferty concurred with Council Member Kusterman. He' d like to see
441 the positive .move forward. That would be $500,000 total .
442
443 Council Member Manthey said he concurs ; that would be $400, 000 plus the $ 100,0000
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445 Council Member Maher said she' d join with the group and support.
446
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