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HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-04-1986 Park Board Minutes PARK BOARD August 4, 1986 Chairman Ray Johnson called to order the regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Park Board at 7:00 P.M. , Monday, August 4, 1986. Present: Ken Johnson, John Baumann, Kim James. Absent: Bill Nissen. Jim Flannery arrived at 7:05 P.M. and George Lindy arrived at 7:35 P.M. Also present were Don Volk, Public Works Director and Shar Foster, Secretary. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES - July 7, 1986 Ken Johnson moved to approve the minutes of the July 7, 1986 Park Board meeting as presented. Mr. Baumann seconded the motion which carried unanimously. RAMSEY COUNTY PARK PLAN - Larry Holmberg Mr. Holmberg, Supervisor of Planning and Development for Ramsey County Parks and Recreation Department was present, at the request of the Lino Lakes Park Board, to explain the draft master plan for Bald Eagle Lake and Otter Lake area. Mr. Holmberg showed a map of the area covered in the draft mast plan, explaining that the regional park planned for development is in three segments. The Tamarack nature center area of approximately 350 acres, the Otter Lake area of approximately 400 acres and the Bald Eagle area of approximately 140 acres are adjacent to the southeast corner of Lino Lakes and are planned for development over a long period of time (10+ years) . He stated that this is a draft plan and must be reviewed and approved by the Ramsey County Board of Commissioners, the White Bear Township Board of Supervisors and the Metropolitan Council. Mr. Holmberg felt that the one issue of particular interest to Lino Lakes would be the boat launch at the south end of Otter Lake. The Ramsey County Sheriff's Department showed a concern some time ago as to the use and abuse of the current boat launch in the area and recommended closing the launch. White Bear Township asked to reopen it The plan incorporates improvement to the boat launch and further improvement in about ten years. Mr. Hawkins, a landowner along Otter Lake Road, was in the audience and voiced some concerns with regard to the boat launch area which is near his property. He suggested consistent regulations for the entire lake because of the fact that part of the lake is Ramsey County and part is Anoka County. Mr. Holmberg said that the regulations on the lake are the same for each county and said that any regulation against power boats does not seem to be necessary because of the type .of lake it is and the major use of the lake. Mr. Volk stated that he under- stood that regulations on the lake could not restrict any of the boats currently owned by lakeshore owners. Mr. Hawkins also suggested fencing or guardrails to eliminate the boat launch users from trespassing on his property. He was instructed to contact Anoka County regarding this fencing. Chairman Johnson thanked Mr. Holmberg for attending this evening. ICE ARENA PROPOSAL - Jim Arntzen n Mr. Arntzen attended the June, 1986 Park Board meeting and had asked to return to this meeting to update the Board on the progress of plans for an ice arena in Lino Lakes or Circle Pines. He stated that the group he represents is no PARK BOARD August 4, 1986 Page Two longer part of the Centennial Hockey Association and that the group calls them- selves CACC (Centennial Area Civic Center) , currently in the process of incorpor- ating as a charitable, non-profit organization. Mr. Arntzen stated that his organization is looking for a commitment from Lino Lakes or Circle Pines for a piece of property (approximately 2z acres) on which to build an ice arena to service the communities in the area. Though the group would not need to own the property, they would need authority to manage the operation of the ice arena. The opinion of the CACC is that the ice arena which was proposed through the school recently did not become a reality because the citizens were concerned that taxes would increase. Ray Johnson suggested Country Lakes Park as a site. Mr. Volk thought that there may be a problem due to the fact that Country Lakes Park has been developed with a grant and the plan for Country Lakes did not include a ice arena when the grant was made available. Mr. Lindy asked that staff check into the possibility of using Country Lakes Park, particularly checking with the grant administration office to see if this would create a problem. Mr. Arntzen was asked whether utilities would be recommended for the ice arena. He did not feel that utilities would be needed, however they would need to follow the zoning regulations of the City. The CACC needs a commitment for a piece of land immediately in order to begin fund raising. When $250,000 is raised the building could begin. Ray Johnson thought that another possibility would be the lots which were just recently received at Sunset Oaks. Mr. Volk explained the growth that the City expects to see along Lake Drive near 35W and said that possibly a few years down the road this would be a suitable location. Mr. Arntzen stated that at this time a commitment for land- is needed, the particular location would not need to be designated. MOTION: Mr. Lindy moved to approve in concept the idea of an ice arena and make available to CACC, 2-1/2 acres we have available, for an ice arena facility. Ken Johnson seconded the motion which carried unanimously. Mr. Volk was asked to put together a list of possible sites for the ice arena. COUNTRY LAKES PARK The following updates were given on Country Lakes Park: - The fishing dock is in and being used regularly. - Signs are on order and delivery is expected within 2 - 3 weeks and will be erected immediately after delivery. - Buoys are on order. - Mr. Volk is negotiating with the prison officials for a crew to brush and clear the area as needed. This should be sometime this year. - Mr. Volk is working with the Police and Fire Departments for a rescue system. - Park will be soon ready for grand opening. PARK BOARD August 4, 1986 Page Three PROPOSED SCHOOL PROPERTY Ray Johnson updated the Board per a phone conversation with the City Administrator: - The lease agreement has been given to Warren Tester on the School Board, and the Superintendent and their lawyer are considering the lease. There has been talk of changing the term of the lease from 15 years to 5 years renewable annually thereafter- - The farmer who presently uses the property has been promised use of the land until November, therefore it is doubtful that the City could seed the ground this fall to .begin establishment of turf. BALDWIN LAKE PROPERTY The City of St. Paul has sent to Lino Lakes more information regarding the Baldwin Lake property which the City of Lino Lakes leases from the City of St. Paul. A tour of the area was offered by the City of St. Paul, so that Lino Lakes boardmembers could view the property to help make a decision as to whether or not Lino Lakes wishes to purchase the land. Mr. Volk agreed to let Mr. Schumacher know that the Park Board would like to tour the area so that arrangements for the tour can be made. Mr. Volk and Mr. Flannery thought that it would be wise to look into why the City of St. Paul is interested in selling the property. Mr. Flannery volunteered to do the necessary legwork (going through minutes; etc.) to try and learn the motive for selling. VANDALISM Mr. Volk reported that no new vandalism reports have been filed since the last meeting of the Park Board and that the Anoka County Crime Investigator assigned to the Sunrise Park vandalism problem has not yet had a chance to look into the vandalism report. Mr. Volk will be meeting with the Lino Lakes Police Chief to try to establish a procedure for investigation of park vandalism reports on the staff level rather than through the County Crime Department. OLD BUSINESS None. NEW BUSINESS Due to the Labor Day holiday in September, the Park Board will meet on Wednesday, September 3, 1986 for their next meeting. Chairman Johnson asked that each member be thinking about the changes they feel should be made to the comprehensive plan with regard to future planning for parks. The comp plan is in the process of an update. This item will be placed on the September Park Board agenda. �. Mr. Lindy asked how a concerned citizen would 'go about requesting a park in a particular area. Mr. Volk suggested a petition from the neighbors go to the City Council. The meeting adjourned at 8:45 P.M. htlIJS 'N NII'�� '9"N 9n0/ Nl Cal hhfh w,r I�S ell, 0,74 PROPOSAL FOR CENTENNIAL AREA CIVIC CENTER BY CACC 1986 THE CENTENNIAL AREA CIVIC CENTER COMMITTEE MEMBERS Mr. Lyn Anderson Mr. James Arntzen Mr. Gary Bennett Mr. Jerry Bourdon Mr. Joe Marshall Mr. Mark: Verplaeste Incorporation is in progres under Minnesota 's Chapter of Charatable and Non-Profitable organization sections. n TABLE OF CONTENTS INTRODUCTION. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PAGE 2 FACILITY USE. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PAGE 3 COMMUNITY NEED. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PAGE 4 BUILDING SITE. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PAGE 5 FACILITY DISCRIPTION. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PAGE 6 FLOOR PLAN. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PAGE 6A OWNERSHIP. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PAGE 7 PROPOSED FINANCING. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PAGE 8 OPERATINGCAPITAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PAGE 9 n INTRODUCTION The Centennial Area Civic Center Committee is proposing to construct an Ice Arena within the communities serviced by the Centennial School District. The intent is to provide an indoor facility that will adequately serve our various youth and civic orientated athletic programs. FACILITY USE The proposed facility will address the needs of the following existing youth athletic programs. * Open Skating For The General Public * Centennial Hockey Association * Chiefs Soccer Club * Centennial High School Hockey Program Additional activities supported by this type of facility can and do include: * Figure Skating Schools And Clinics * Power And Hockey Skating Schools / Clinics * Indoor Tournaments For Hockey And Soccer * Broomball Leagues * Adult Hockey Leagues Other Possible Uses: * Spring Baseball Batting Practice * ????????????????????????????????? COMMUNITY NEED The communities of Circle Pines, Lexington , Centerville, Lino Lakes, and East Blaine do not have indoor facilities for hockey programs. Consequently the residents of our communities Must travel outside Our area to access the appropriate facilities. This generates additional cost to parents for travel expense and channels local capital in the form of rental fees to external Communities. Prime time availability for an ice arena is typically reserved for the residents of the community in which the family resides. Less desirable times,if available at all , is sold to the non-resident. This time can be as early as 4: 30am or as late as 10: 30prrj. Hence, the overall need statements can be summerized as: * Satisfy The Ice Time NEEDS Of Our Youth Hockey And Other Athletic Activities. * Improve / Enhance Area Hockey Programs INCENTIVE - WE DO NOT SEE THIS SITUATION IMPROVING IN THE NEAR FUTURE! WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE FAILURE OF THE CENTENNIAL SCHOOL BOARD AND BELIEVE THE TASK MUST BE DEVELOPED BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. _ . . BUILDING SITE The CACC committee is persuing land acquisitions in the following PRIORITY: / 1 . Dedicatedar an Park L v� 2. Donated Public Land, ' 3. Donated Private La~ 4. Land Purchase The site must be of suitable quality as to minimize extensive soil excavation and / or extensive landscaping. The ideal site would be an area centrally located to the previously mentioned communities and adjacent to other public recreational facilities or parks. Ap' roximatly 2. 5 acres are required to adequately service the building and parking facilities. �� FACILITY The building will be approximately 150 ft by 250 ft occupying a total of 37500 square feet. The contents of this building will include the hockey rink: , bleachers, space for future bleeches, rest rooms, concessions, office space, mechanical storage, Zamboni storage, team rooms, gallery, and observation deck:. I L NTROL -- -TIGAM 426 AEATa . L-1 ICE ARENA !so CH C-i i-4 is to ,2SD ^ ' . ` OWNERSHIP The current ^c000euono of the CACC Committee is to own the building and manage the facility with private voluntary administration personnel . This decision is based on financal observations from other black ink arena operations. Typically non-public owned and operated ice arenas do not have year end financial liabilities. However , the option is open for other forms of ownership. �� PROPOSED FINANCING The CACC Committe will persue the financing through private and public means in a manner similar- to the approach taken by the originators of the Fogerty Arena in Blaine. There various avenues of finacial assistance will include, but not limited to, the following: * General Fund Raisers * Private Foundations (11 Identified) * Private Contributions * Local Buisness Contributions * External Business And Corporate Contrbns. * Anoka County Grants * Local Chamber Of Commerce * Local ,State,And Federal Grants * Volunteer Labor And Materials The cost estimate for the completed facility will be approximately 1 . 4 million dollars. ~ . ^ . . - OPERATING CAPITAL Income for operating an ice arena is derived primarily from hourly rental fees and to a lesser extent profits from concessions. The hours available for ice rental are usually from 4: 30pm to 10: 30pm weekdays, 4: 30am to 10: 45pm weekends during the months of July through mid March. This translates into approximately 40 hours per week times 37 weeks or 1480 hours available for revenue. At $75 per hour this translates to a possible income of $111000 annually. 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