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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/03/1997 Park Board Packet r� CITY OF LINO LAKES PARK BOARD MEETING MONDAY, NOVEMBER 3 , 1997 6 : 30PM ***AGENDA*** 1 . Call to Order and Roll Call 6 :30pm 2 . Introduction of Rick DeGardner, Director 6 :35pm 3 . Approval of Minutes from 10/6/97 6 :45pm 4 . Open Mike 6 :50pm 5 . Trails 6 :55pm 6 . Old Business 7 : 05pm 7 . New Business 7 :35pm 8 . Reminder - Future Meetings 8 : 05pm 9 . Schedule Next Park Board Meeting 8 : 10pm 10 . Adjourn 8 : 15pm All times are approximate. Please call Sandie at 780-1885, Ext . 176, if you cannot attend this meeting. n City of Lino Lakes Park Board Meeting October 6, 1997 The October 6, 1997, City of Lino Lakes Park Board meeting was called to order at 6 :37pm, by George Lindy, Chair. Roll call was taken, members present were Paul Montain, George Lindy, Sharon Lane, Joe Schmidt, Kim Sullivan, and Pam Taschuk. Betty Piper was absent. Also present were Barry Bernstein, Recreation Program Supervisor, and Sandie Wood, Recording Secretary. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JULY 7 AND AUGUST 4 1997 MEETINGS• Pam Taschuk made a motion to approve the minutes from July and August . Motion was seconded by Kim Sullivan and approved unanimously. OPEN MIKE• There was no one present for open mike . OTHER OLD BUSINESS: n Highland Meadows - UPDATE: Barry gave background information from the August 4, 1997 meeting. He said Mike had met with Bruce Kerber on this issue . There was discussion about the age of people that use trails, total amount of park dedication and the easement under the power line. Bruce also talked about the 1 .27 acre tot lot . George asked what the exception was . Bruce stated it was an existing home. Kim asked about parking for this park. George explained that parking lots are not normally put in neighborhood parks . Kim asked if anything has been done environmentally for this park. Barry said there is only one area that has trees . Barry also said he and Mike have not walked this land but it is on highland and will be a beautiful park. George wanted to know if this development was going to be done in phases . Bruce said it would be done in three phases and showed the members where the phases would be. Pam asked what the timeline was for the various phases . Bruce said it could be fully developed within three years but the market, interest rates, and other factors could make it sell faster. Barry asked if they were going to do bituminous surfaced trails . Bruce said he was not sure but he will be going back to Planning and Zoning this week. Sharon asked if there was enough room for 1 or 2 informal fields . Barry said there is but there would have to be neighborhood meetings to see what they want in the park. George asked about the 1 City of Lino Lakes Park Board Meeting October 6, 1997 north/south transportation trail in this area. Barry reviewed the trail in the comprehensive park plan and said the east/west trails were more identified in the book. Paul expressed he wished lot 10 was cleaned up a bit more. He is afraid this will come back to haunt the city because of the irregular shape of this lot . MOTION: Sharon Lane made a motion to accept the revised plan with the developer securing use of easement, for trail purposes, under the power line. The trail will run east/west through the development . Pam Taschuk seconded the motion and it passed unanimously. TRAILS - UPDATE: Clearwater Creek Trail: Barry asked members to look at memo, from Marty Asleson, which was in the packets . Barry showed on a plan where the trail on LaCasse Drive was put in. Barry explained what Marty would like to do with the trail in that area. Marty would like to abandon the existing trail on LaCasse Drive and put it back on the Otter Lake Road right-of- way. Paul asked how close the trail would be to the house if a patio was built . Barry said 10' . Paul wanted to know why the city has this problem with the trail . Barry said it was because of the situation within the Park and Recreation Department and no one handling trail issues . Kim asked if there was a chance that Otter Lake was going to be expanded. She was concerned about the speed on this road. Paul said he had attended another meeting and the County said they did not anticipate any work being done within the next 5 years or so. Pam was concerned about the amount of traffic on this road. Paul wanted to know how much development has been done in the area. Barry was not sure how the city could come in at another direction and reconfigure the trail . Kim said the tree preservation survey should have been done before the trail was even suggested. She is also concerned about road widening, traffic, and whether there is enough room to put the trail along Otter Lake Road. Barry felt this was an issue the new director should look into. Kim wanted to know who was going to pay for this . George said the city would have to because the Park Board approved the plan. Barry said Marty is working on ways to help pay for this . George said since this project had been crossed off the paving schedule, this year, there was time to work on this issue. Kim asked if there was any 2 City of Lino Lakes Park Board Meeting October 6, 1997 way this could be avoided in the future. Barry said when there is a new director that person will be able to keep on top of the issue and avoid this problem. Joe stated his concern about the speed. Barry will talk to Marty to see if the county has traffic counts on this road. Barry also felt Marty would have an update for the next Park Board meeting. 1996/1997 Trail Paving: Mike Hoffman included a memo, paving summary and map showing the locations of the trails scheduled to be paved in 1997 . Barry talked about the trail on Aqua Lane being part of the grant the city received. He added the trail on the rear of Marshan property has been done and is being used by several residents. Pam asked about the trail along the townhomes by the lake that keeps washing out . She wanted to know if this was going to be a problem after the trail was paved. Barry has not talked to the developer about this but will and let the board know what is going to happen. Kim asked about the trail by St . Joseph Church. Paul said the trail goes from Sunrise Drive to Sunset Road. Pam asked who is responsible for the trails on school property. Barry said the school district is . George asked the status of trails 3-6 . Barry said it is scheduled to be done in 1997 if it has not already been done. George asked if city staff was cutting and doing Class V on the trails . Barry said he thought it was being contracted. There was also discussion on trails along Birch Street . Joe asked if something was going to be done on Hokah to 49 . Barry did not know. Paul asked about a crosswalk where the trails goes from the north side to the south side on Birch Street . George said it would be connected into Country Lakes Park to allow residents to use tunnel over to Rice Lake Elementary School . Paul thought signage should be put up letting residents know so they do not cross Birch Street . George said his concern was that the trail be paved before the weather turned bad this fall . ANOKA ELECTRIC EASEMENT - UPDATE: Barry had a conversation with Mike Felber, Planning Engineer with Anoka Electric. Mike was fully aware of the project . He said they would like to start this project in the winter and complete it in the spring. At the present time, no permits have been sought or secured by Anoka Electric . Barry gave him permission to obtain the necessary permits . He would also like Mike to come before the board when the permits have been obtained to obtain a fair trade . George thought staff should be negotiating this, not the Park Board. 3 City of Lino Lakes Park Board Meeting October 6, 1997 PARK DEDICATION FEES: Marty Asleson wrote a memo to the Park Board Members on park dedication history. He said several years ago, before the Parks and Trails Comprehensive Plan, all minor subdivisions were reviewed by the Park Board as they came up. There were many questions at that time concerning park land needs and where the needs for this land should be place in the city. After the comprehensive plan was developed we had a much better understanding of the open space and trail needs . Thus, it was suggested that the minor subdivisions be periodically taken to the Park Board for review in situations where in the estimation of staff, there would be no impact on the comprehensive plan. In situations where there was an impact, or a question of impact, it was decided to bring these issues to the Park Board immediately. As you know, there are not a great many of these that this happens with. This issue of minor subdivision review was taken to the Park Board and approved some years ago. n Kim asked if this meant they do or do not come before the Park Board. Barry said the city takes the $500 fee and it does not come before the board. Barry then read a memo from Mary Kay dated September 30, 1997 . (See minutes for memo) Paul said he still had questions about commercial dedication. Barry said maybe the new director could research this and give the members an answer to this issue in the future. Joe asked if the Park Board could be informed when dedication money is taken in. Paul had questions about commercial dedication. He wanted to know why the city does not get more dedication for commercial development . Sharon said we do not want to discourage commercial development . Pam wanted to know if it was a state or city ordinance . Barry responded state. Paul said commercial dedication should help give the Park Board money to spend on park development or upgrading parks . 4 City of Lino Lakes Park Board Meeting October 6, 1997 PARKS - UPDATE: Sunrise Park: Barry gave an update of Sunrise Park. He showed plans on the overhead. Barry explained there are three projects being done in this park. They are replacement of a hockey rink, playground equipment and backstop. The funding of these projects will address a number of existing safety concerns at this park. The addition of these elements will make Sunrise Park a much safer and inviting park for the residents of Lino Lakes . Kim asked if there was going to be additional lighting for Little League. Barry said there would be no lighting. Rice Lake Estates Park: Barry explained that Marty Asleson is working on this issue. Barry included a memo from Marty in the packets . Barry said the project is moving forward. Barry put a plan of this park on the overhead. Barry said the trail comes in by the wellhouse and may need to be moved, into the wetland area, if it cannot follow the property line due to residents concerns . Kate Drewry will be walking this area again since the city may want to move it . He said moving the trail southwesterly would be more attractive. Barry said Baldwin Park does have some play structures in it . We are currently using Baldwin for soccer. YMCA - UPDATE: Barry reported the committee seeking a possible YMCA center met recently. A market study is going to be conducted in the near future. The City and YMCA, St . Paul, will be sharing the cost of the market study. The YMCA secured an agency to do the market study. The study will indicate if a possible YMCA could attract enough people to make it in Lino Lakes . Pam asked what the cost of the survey would be. Barry responded $20, 000 with the city paying half of the cost . Sharon wanted to know if this was going to be in the Town Center. Barry said yes . Paul asked about operating costs . Barry said 300 - 500 members were needed to make the project go. There was discussion on what area they hoped to draw clients from. Barry thought the radius was 9 miles . He will keep the Park Board informed of the progress . FRIENDS OF THE PARK UPDATE: Barry said they had a closing meeting on the golf tournament . They collected approximately $4, 000 that will be used to enhance 5 City of Lino Lakes Park Board Meeting October 6® 1997 the Lino Lakes park system. Barry commended the members and sponsors (especially Gary Uhde and Molin Concrete) for the work they did on this project . Kim added that the tree sale generated between $1, 200 and $1, 300 . Martha Walmsley is leaving the committee and he thanked her for all the work she did while on the Friends Committee. Barry said the committee is in need of members and if anyone is interested they should call the Park and Recreation Department . RECREATION UPDATE: New Director: A person has been offered the Park and Recreation Director position. Barry will keep the board informed. NEW BUSINESS• Community Education Program Annual Contribution: Barry included a letter from Larry Jablinski, Director of Personnel and Community Services, Centennial School District 12, stating they will no longer contribute $2 , 000 to the Lino Lakes recreation program. He stated the decision to discontinue the contribution is linked directly to the demise of the North Metro Recreation Commission. Barry added they will only place a limited amount of program information in the Centennial Observer, not the larger amount of information they used to. The school district felt the cities could advertise in their own publications . Barry said the department will have to be more pro-active on marketing because registration is down about 1/3 . Pam stated she felt the flyers that come home with the kids get more attention than the Observer. OTHER OLD BUSINESS - CONTINUED: Millers South Glen: George said this issue has been before the Park Board twice, once when the board initially accepted the park dedication and then it came back when there were questions about this issue . He said the Park Board is responsible for the development of this park. George said the master plan shows 20- 30' of boardwalk. Paul said he sees a problem with parking off 62nd. George said the board eliminated parking for this park. Barry thought there were 6 stalls were on the plan. George explained there were 6 stalls and left them on the plan only if a hockey rink was installed. 6 City of Lino Lakes Park Board Meeting r-� October 6, 1997 SCHEDULE MEETING - SUCCESSFUL REFERENDUMS: George said he talked to Jeff Schoenbauer about referendums . Jeff wants to bring Jon Gurban and a couple of other people to a meeting to discuss successful referendums . The board chose November 5, 6, 19, 20, or 25 at 6 or 6 :30pm, as possible dates for this meeting. George said it might be a good idea for the city to do a spring referendum because that is when ballfield usage is a big issue. George asked Sandie to contact Jeff and let him know what dates were available for board members and see what he could work out . The meeting will be held at the Park and Recreation building or City Hall . SCHEDULE GOAL SETTING MEETING - NOVEMBER: The Park Board requested staff to schedule the meeting on one of the other dates that were selected. Sandie will let members know when the meeting has been scheduled. SCHEDULE NEXT PARR BOARD MEETING: The next Park Board meeting will be November 3, 1997, 6 : 30pm, at City Hall . ADJOURN• Kim Sullivan made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Pam Taschuk. Meeting was adjourned at 9 :13pm. 7